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First we're discussing this in the context of the US.

Secondly "guarantee" was never said or implied by me. You know this, but unable to counter my argument have to fabricate a straw man and attack that instead.

It's about balance of probabilities. You are clearly implying ordering from China vs a domestic source is riskier, when the evidence of how shipments with end user quantities discovered by customs are actually, in real life, in the US, are handled on a daily basis is overwhelming.

Are domestic sources in the US safer? That is what you imply. What have you got to prove that? Your "feels"?

You know what you can't prove? That a package of user quantity steroids, shipped the way Chinese suppliers here do, discovered by US customs has led to anything but a seizure letter.

Tens of thousands of these packages have been seized by CBP over the course of just the last few years, and you, nor your pathetic followers @Anubis666 , can seem to find a single instance of that leading to a prosecution. Why do you think that is?

BTW, I'm not your wife. You're not going to train me to back down when I'm right by raging and screaming insults. Go punch a pillow and yell at god for handicapping you with a sub par mind.
Did you even check out the news article lol. Your comments scream stupidity, a lawyer from the USA got prosecuted ordering amounts not even close to what bodybuilders cycle in a year.

You spew so much lies and misinformation you can’t even track your statements anymore, people from everywhere are here.

Learn to read and most importantly go back to school to improve your reading comprehension, it is clearly stated how much they were importing, these guys are not suppliers.

Do I need to explain every detail on the articles like for you. Now, I’m beginning to think I’m engaging a 30 year old fat ass sitting in front of his pc with doritos stained fingers in his mom’s basement.

It’s starting to make sense since you never post in the nutrition, training even steroid cycle section. Damn, he his screams bb.com misc all over again lmao!
 
Did you even check out the news article lol. Your comments scream stupidity, a lawyer from the USA got prosecuted ordering amounts not even close to what bodybuilders cycle in a year.

You spew so much lies and misinformation you can’t even track your statements anymore, people from everywhere are here.

Learn to read and most importantly go back to school to improve your reading comprehension, it is clearly stated how much they were importing, these guys are not suppliers.

Do I need to explain every detail on the articles like for you. Now, I’m beginning to think I’m engaging a 30 year old fat ass sitting in front of his pc with doritos stained fingers in his mom’s basement.

It’s starting to make sense since you never post in the nutrition, training even steroid cycle section. Damn, he his screams bb.com misc all over again lmao!

Yes, I read about the prosecution from SEVEN years ago for importing RAWS, a manufacturing precursor not associated with end users.

Of course everything seems like misinformation if you're occupying the shallow end of the IQ pool.

So again, where are the END USERS in the US getting busted for shipments from China sources discovered by customs? Tens of thousands of seizures in just the last few years, hundreds if not thousands of MESO users have first hand experience with that, some with a photo album full of customs "love letters", where are the prosecutions? Should be quite a few built up by this point don't you think? In fact it would be odd not to find a few here sharing their stories about how a shipment from China led to their downfall.

You're the one trying to justify the paranoia of those who are terrified of ordering from QSC and other Chinese sources, and worse, believing as you do that ordering domestic is a "safe" option.

You're the one implying anyone in the US ordering from Chinese sources here is taking some terrible risk that only you and your followers are smart enough to identify, and therefore a fool.

Show us the risk of anything more than a seizure letter to an end user. Perhaps even some examples from this decade.
 
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Yes, I read about the prosecution from SEVEN years ago for importing RAWS, a manufacturing precursor not associated with end users.

Of course everything seems like misinformation if you're occupying the shallow end of the IQ pool.

So again, where are the END USERS in the US getting busted for shipments from China sources discovered by customs? Tens of thousands of seizures in just the last few years, where are the prosecutions? Should be quite a few built up by this point don't you think? In fact it would be odd not to find a few here.

You're the one trying to justify the paranoia of those who are terrified of ordering from QSC and other Chinese sources, and think ordering domestic is a "safe" option. Prove it.
You just don’t seem to understand that unlike you we have family, friends, careers and lives outside the bodybuilding world that we can’t gamble with hence we try to take measures to distance ourselves away from any involvement to importation of illegal substances.

We do this by utilizing different methods, it might look like paranoia to a person who don’t have anything to lose like you.

Where I’m from possession is not illegal, so it is much simpler for me to just find ways to work around the mailing transfer issues.

Anyway, there is no point discussing this further with you since you don’t even live our lifestyle and just an obese drug user, you’re interest will soon fade away anyway.
 
Dude, with the overfill, you're essentially getting 11 bottles, 10ml @ 205mg/ml which works out to $22.27 per vial of tested primobolan delivered. A few years ago, I was paying close to $100 for the same without any testing. This is an incredible deal
Its basically the same great deal as the oils promo a couple months ago (250 then, 245 now). I hope Q sells a billion of them, and I'm going to order at least 1 or 2 kits myself, and I basically order all my stuff from Q now.

It was a comment on Tracy's claim of "cheaper than raws even at the 1kg moq", that's all. BTW, if you guys are going to account for the overfill on vials, you need to also account for the fact that raws are never 100% pure.
 
Please, correct me if I misunderstand, but each kit is $245 and not $200.

1 kit = $245 makes perfect sense at it matches raws price at a kilo plus shipping
2 kits = $490 though since the shipping is included in the price per kit
3 kits = $735 and so on....

If the actual price per kit is $200 and shipping is normal shipping rates ($45 for 1-4 kits as I recall), then an order of 2 kits would only be $445 and not $490 and an order of 3 kits would be $645 instead of $735, etc.

Don't get me wrong, that first kit is a real bargain, but ordering more than a single kit makes it less so.
Is shipping included in the price of the kit? not for everyone... I paid the GB shipping for HGH and in this Primo 200 too... I'm from Europe.
 
I’m beginning to think I’m engaging a 30 year old fat ass sitting in front of his pc with doritos stained fingers in his mom’s basement.
Can you imagine the full-body trembling he goes through when hammering out his endless diarrhea on that poor keyboard? "Ma, they're being wrong on the internet again! Bring me another Yoohoo and break open the emergency box of Krispy Kremes!"

Angry boi has probably pounded out more words on that keyboard here in the past few hours than the rest of us do in a year. Hilarious to see how many times he edits each post too, can't miss any of those important points telling everyone how wrong they are ("forgot to mention this, and this, and that, and OMG this too, that'll make them understand!").


View: https://youtu.be/BIfcMHpINKY?si=BUa_nggK6PHf_wZF&t=12
 
If the actual price per kit is $200 and shipping is normal shipping rates ($45 for 1-4 kits as I recall), then an order of 2 kits would only be $445 and not $490 and an order of 3 kits would be $645 instead of $735, etc.
All that would be correct if one could brew their own gear and be confident enough to shoot them and by judging by their interest in buying more than one kit they can't brew shit.
 
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