What? You guys can’t even choose to kill yourselves through your doctor, you need to buy a gun or jump of the rooftop. Lol just kidding.
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Justaguy99
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Unless you need to abort of course.
Underworld
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I had two past girlfriends get abortions. No problem there.
roofer22
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I watch this during cardio for motivation sometimes. Some of those people are messed up in the head. Well they all are really.
phenominal34
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Great post
egruberman
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I think the thing that people are discovering is that work is still involved. Without attention to diet and exercise, the typical result is a lighter fat person, possibly with improved metabolic health markers. Unfortunately, none of the trials for these things are tracking body composition.
You're not wrong, here, but the characterization is imprecise. People don't know, or don't care, or are simply indulging their impulses without consideration because they have other priorities in life. Eventually it becomes a problem, but by then the damage is done.
In my 20s I went from working in construction to being a successful tech bro during the dotcom boom, to give an indication of how old I am. For a decade, I was entirely sedentary, ate whatever the hell I liked, and worked my ass off. Nothing else mattered until I was 33 at 340lbs and I watched a friend who was near my age and even more grotesquely obese keel over dead from complications related to obesity.
Once I started caring, all it took was a reasonable amount of diet and exercise to shed 120lbs or so naturally. Took some figuring out and almost a decade. Getting to a healthy state wasn't all that difficult. Getting to the state I'm in now (<10%bf and reasonably muscular) in my 50s was much easier with the help of anabolics and GLP-1 agonists.
If I had intentions of getting on a stage, and the time to focus on that, I'd absolutely be counting calories and eating a very restrictive diet. As it is, I don't have any particular deadlines to get lean, so I can just cut for 12-20 weeks or so. I can titrate my appetite so that I can join my family for dinner and eat whatever without having to measure the food. All the attention I really need to spend on my diet is getting sufficient protein and not going crazy with fat.
baxter0312
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I’m an alcoholic, it really is as simple as just stopping the offending behavior. There’s no magic pill to stop drinking, if you have a reason to stop you will. There’s naltrexone but if you want to drink you simply don’t take the pill.
baxter0312
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Unless you were born in Oregon. No you can’t just go to Oregon and do it.
One of these things is not like the others.
The first three are actions that can be avoided
The fourth brought about by consequence in only two scenarios, hard drug use and anorexia
What about T used as rejuvenation by aging men?
Are you going to tell women that their eye creams and concealers are cheating as well?
Jpxxx
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100% wrong. Alcoholic means u can't stop
Ghoul
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This idiot obviously hasn't consulted the braintrust huddling in the QSC thread, or he'd know these GLP compounds are "fattie crack" that will undoubtedly lead to terrible sides.....eventually.
(Fwiw, every smoker, functioning alcoholic, and all day pothead I've known that's used a GLP for a year or more just slowly tapered off their addiction).
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www.nature.com
(Fwiw, every smoker, functioning alcoholic, and all day pothead I've known that's used a GLP for a year or more just slowly tapered off their addiction).
Top U.S. addiction researcher calls GLP-1 data for addiction 'very, very exciting'
An addiction expert says drugs like Wegovy are showing exciting results for addiction, but adds that “the pharmaceutical industry has never spontaneously embraced us and said, ‘We want to help develop treatments.’"
www.statnews.com
Clinical Trial on Semaglutide Shows Promise for Treatment of Alcohol Use Disorder, Warrants Further Trials | Newsroom
Christian Hendershot, PhD, associate professor of psychiatry and director of the Clinical and Translational Addiction Research Program at the UNC School of Medicine, presented early findings from the first completed randomized controlled trial of semaglutide for reducing alcohol consumption in...
news.unchealthcare.org
Semaglutide and Tirzepatide reduce alcohol consumption in individuals with obesity - Scientific Reports
Alcohol Use Disorder (AUD) contributes significantly to global mortality. GLP-1 (Glucagon-like peptide-1) and GLP-1/GIP (Glucose-dependent Insulinotropic Polypeptide) agonists, FDA-approved for managing type 2 diabetes and obesity, where the former has shown to effectively reduce the consumption...
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baxter0312
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You can't stop once you start drinking. But you choose to have the first drink
Jpxxx
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No because your mind plays tricks and u think u can control it.
Ghoul
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You’re making it sound that this is a cure all lmao.This idiot obviously hasn't consulted the braintrust huddling in the QSC thread, or he'd know these GLP compounds are "fattie crack" that will undoubtedly lead to terrible sides.....eventually.
(Fwiw, every smoker, functioning alcoholic, and all day pothead I've known that's used a GLP for a year or more just slowly tapered off their addiction).
Top U.S. addiction researcher calls GLP-1 data for addiction 'very, very exciting'
An addiction expert says drugs like Wegovy are showing exciting results for addiction, but adds that “the pharmaceutical industry has never spontaneously embraced us and said, ‘We want to help develop treatments.’"
Clinical Trial on Semaglutide Shows Promise for Treatment of Alcohol Use Disorder, Warrants Further Trials | Newsroom
Christian Hendershot, PhD, associate professor of psychiatry and director of the Clinical and Translational Addiction Research Program at the UNC School of Medicine, presented early findings from the first completed randomized controlled trial of semaglutide for reducing alcohol consumption in...
Semaglutide and Tirzepatide reduce alcohol consumption in individuals with obesity - Scientific Reports
Alcohol Use Disorder (AUD) contributes significantly to global mortality. GLP-1 (Glucagon-like peptide-1) and GLP-1/GIP (Glucose-dependent Insulinotropic Polypeptide) agonists, FDA-approved for managing type 2 diabetes and obesity, where the former has shown to effectively reduce the consumption...
It’s been out for so many years and with all the sales these Chinese vendors have we should see a dramatic drop in obesity right?
Time will tell, like I said, if steroids is the answer to getting fit and jacked the majority of gym goers should be jacked right now. I still believe it’s not going to change anything if you don’t have the right mindset to change or the work ethic and dedication to change your life.
If it’s just easy as poking your tummy once a week and you lose that extra 50lbs then the obesity problem should be gone in say, 10 years right?
The glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) analogue semaglutide reduces alcohol drinking and modulates central GABA neurotransmission
There is enough anecdotal evidence that GLP-1RAs affect our physiological chemical dependencies that they are being actively studied in clinical trials for alcohol, nicotine, etc.
Those who want to maintain that willpower is all that is necessary to conquer various chemical dependencies and psychological addictions might want to reserve judgement pending the outcomes of these clinical trials and resultant pharmacological therapies.
GLP-1RAs are not a silver bullet to end addictions or various health epidemics. Instead, they are a tool to use in the fight and should be used in conjunction with healthier lifestyles to empower those who want to change to do so. Will some abuse the tools they have to achieve short-term gains while increasing their long-term risks? Of course! But we can hold the abusers accountable without maligning those who use the tools responsibly to make lasting changes.
There is enough anecdotal evidence that GLP-1RAs affect our physiological chemical dependencies that they are being actively studied in clinical trials for alcohol, nicotine, etc.
Those who want to maintain that willpower is all that is necessary to conquer various chemical dependencies and psychological addictions might want to reserve judgement pending the outcomes of these clinical trials and resultant pharmacological therapies.
GLP-1RAs are not a silver bullet to end addictions or various health epidemics. Instead, they are a tool to use in the fight and should be used in conjunction with healthier lifestyles to empower those who want to change to do so. Will some abuse the tools they have to achieve short-term gains while increasing their long-term risks? Of course! But we can hold the abusers accountable without maligning those who use the tools responsibly to make lasting changes.
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You know you can’t control it but spend an inordinate amount of time convincing yourself you can.
As to the food noise. Only time I get that is when I’m high . I guess obese people are walking around with the constant munchies. That’d suck ass.
baxter0312
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In life even when it seems like we are being forced to action there are always choices.
“I demolished the entire dominos pizza”
“You knew that was going to happen didn’t you? There wasn’t any question that you were going to demolish the whole thing”
“Yeah you’re right. I got the extra large thinking I would have some of it for lunch tomorrow. But deep down I knew that wasn’t happening “
“What if you just get the medium next time? You’ll demolish it of course but odds are you’ll be satisfied”
“I demolished the entire dominos pizza”
“You knew that was going to happen didn’t you? There wasn’t any question that you were going to demolish the whole thing”
“Yeah you’re right. I got the extra large thinking I would have some of it for lunch tomorrow. But deep down I knew that wasn’t happening “
“What if you just get the medium next time? You’ll demolish it of course but odds are you’ll be satisfied”
Ghoul
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I'm not making it sound like anything. Why would you expect obesity rates in stats to show a significant change when its been on an accelerating trend upwards for half a century, and access to these compounds has been extremely limited until just recently, and is still out of reach for most even in the wealthy west.
I really don't care if you believe the mountain of solid research stretching back decades is some "Big Pharma" conspiracy. Or that "too good to be true" is some objective scientific measure.
Like I've said before, this is a self regulating problem. Those who reject "fattie crack" on some demented principle will self select themselves and their families right out of the gene pool by denying their genetics the clear benefits in treating, and prevention of the chronic diseases that are the primary cause of death for most of humanity. Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, liver disease, cancer, and in many cases those benefits are not only irrespective of weight loss, but are greater in people who don't need to lose weight.
In fact, since we know the first layers of cardiovascular disease are found in the arteries of children from autopsy results, when they start recommending that kids receive low doses of the year+ long lasting GLP based drugs in the future to ensure they never, ever suffer a heart attack or stroke or develop diabetes, just like they're given smallpox vaccines, make sure to opt out on their behalf. Stick to your principles.
jj89
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You guys are really helping dispel the meathead stereotype
Justaguy99
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As a recovering alcoholic I can say you can and do control it.This
You know you can’t control it but spend an inordinate amount of time convincing yourself you can.
As to the food noise. Only time I get that is when I’m high . I guess obese people are walking around with the constant munchies. That’d suck ass.
Otherwise you die.
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