Recovery Log!! (in HM ONLY)

[Tyler81]

Ok.

Restarting my recovery log.

The other one got way off track.

The plan is:
5 injections of Hcg 1000ius each
6.25mg clomid/day for two weeks
Horny goat weed/Longjack/Vit D3 for 10-12 weeks

First Hcg injection will be tonight.

I'm going to tough out the Hcg and clomid so my nuts and pituitary are working by the time I get to the herbs.

I will start the clomid after the last Hcg injection.

1000% committed to this restart.

Looking forward to being natural again

 

[jay89]

I think you should take the hcg until you get blood work showing your testes are working again then start the serm. Dont just pigeonhole yourself to X amount of hcg shots. But then again maybe 5 injections will be all you need. Anyhow Im sending you postive vibes brotha!

 

[Tyler81]

First 1000ius injection down the hatch. Let the estrogenic bitch-slapping begin.

 

[Tyler81]

Recovery habits:
- no booze during recovery
- try to get into the gym daily; upper body / lower body splits swimming for cardio.
- eat clean healthy foods
- drink lots of water daily
- multivitamin, fishoil, vit d3

- STAY POSITIVE!! Cut off any sort of negative thought loops.

 

[jay89]

Gut health is important too. A healthy gut Flora. Kombucha,Greek yogurt (active bacteria cultures) Raw Organic apple cider vinegar,Raw honey. Some guy posted a thread on peaktestosterone forum the other day claiming apple cider vinegar boosting his test.

 

[Tyler81]

Woke up half chubbed.

I stopped the gel last week so my T levels should be bottomed out by now.

 

[jay89]

Woke up half chubbed.

I stopped the gel last week so my T levels should be bottomed out by now.

half chubbed!hahaha. Coincidently this morning Dr.Saya responded on excel male forum about his hpta restart protocol and its pretty simple,

hcg 300-400 ius daily for 2 weeks
clomid 25 mg daily for 28 days

substitute clomid with tamoxifen if intolerable.

 

[Tyler81]

I'm probably gonna stick to my 1000ius eod for 10ish days. But it's good to know he suggests the Hcg for two weeks.

(400ius ED is approx the same as 1000ius EOD)

 

[Tyler81]

Reason I am coming off treatment:

I know some people will say "why are you coming off?" but honestly TRT hasnt given me the outcomes I was looking for.

Physique is the same or worse (workouts are worse).
Libido is less consistent versus "always there" natural.
Energy was initially better but now that the gel isnt absorbing anymore it's worse.

Overall the NET BENEFIT of TRT isnt worth it for me anymore.

Also when im banging a girl I want to know im not shooting blanks. I want to have kids within a few years and i would rather suffer coming off treatment now when im single versus when im with a girl and she wont be so patient during the recovery process. (I know because i tried coming off when i was banging a girl 5 years ago and it sucked because i wish i was single so I could have a full recovery without having to "perform" with no libido the first few months off)

This shit aint gonna be easy but the pain will pass and there are A LOT of benefits to being natural imho.

I am looking forward to:
Not having to rub gel on my body twice a day.
Not worrying about sweating the shit off when im out.
Not worrying about transferrance when im naked with a girl.
Having proper sized pornstar loads again not this watery shit with no semen in it.
Just having my full fertility back and knowing I can knock up a chick if I want to !!!

There are other benefits too but I wont list them all here.

Actually the biggest benefit to me is the consistent "natural" feel of the ebbs and flows of T.

I am looking forward to having the boost after the gym (and I find my workouts were better natural), or feeling the T rise if i see a hot girl, porn, when i wake up in the morning etc etc. I'm looking forward to feeling more connected to my body overall.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 2
Bit of an "aching" feeling in my testicles. Probably a good sign.

 

[Tyler81]

Got blood work form.
Will do bloodwork after 4 injections of 1500ius to see if nuts are producing testosterone.

Target is anything > 300ng/dl

 

[Tyler81]

Whoops that should have said 1000ius injections NOT 1500ius.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 3
Morning wood again but sort of half chubbed not fully hard. This might be due to the estrogen from Hcg not totally sure. The morning boners are a good sign though rarely had them on TRT.

 

[jay89]

You ve officially coined the phrase half chubbed. Hows your sleep on hcg. I think I remember dreaming more when I tried low dose

 

[Tyler81]

Sleep is ok.
Definetly feeling estrogenic side effects from the Hcg.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 3 cont'd
Second 1000ius Hcg injection down the hatch. !

 

[Tyler81]

Boys are hanging lower but no change in testicular size yet.

 

[Tyler81]

I considered starting the clomid at the same time as the Hcg as an estrogen control.

But clomid fucks with my head so I'm gonna start it after I do bloodwork that shows my testicles are producing testosterone.

 

[foreveryoung]

following with interest. keep posting

 

[Tyler81]

Forced myself into the gym today; didnt feel like going but forced myself to go anyways.

Got a healthy sub loaded up with veggies post-workout.