Recovery Log!! (in HM ONLY)

[Tyler81]

Just went to Subway and the girl seemed to be flirting with me so im in good spirits
I think I have wanted OFF TRT for so long but I kept post poning it and post poning it I am happy to finally be getting off. Mentally it is a RELIEF to be coming off T.
Another thing I am looking forward to is not thinking about my health anymore.
I've realized low or low normal T isnt the end of the world. It's honestly not a big deal.
Libido comes more from the brain and now that my brain function is optimized I think I will feel decent natural and have a libido that is always there.
I might need CIALIS once in awhile but that's not a big deal.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 7
Fourth 1000ius Hcg injection down the hatch!!

 

[Tyler81]

Day 8
No morning wood today.
Blood work results back tomm.
Plan is to switch over to clomid this week.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 8 contd
I ordered some Icariin 60 which is horny goat weed standardized to 60% Icariin. I have bulk Long jack powder and horny goat weed powder but the horny goat weed powder is low grade stuff.

I'm planning to start the clomid tomorrow and then add in the herbs after one week of clomid.

 

[Tyler81]

The irony for me is that I had a better and more consistent libido when I was natural.

T replacement helps for certain things like energy but libido wise my libido was way more CONSISTENT natural.

And by consistent I mean it was always there. I would get the natural ebbs and flows during the day and more sexual thoughts too. That is a big one. On TRT sometimes I would go weeks with no sexual thoughts. It's fucked.

TRT has been a complete crap shoot for libido specifically.

 

[Tyler81]

This might be TMI but jerked off even though I'm not that horny right now. Equipment all works fine. Pretty satisfying orgasm too. Reminds me how orgasms felt natural.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 9
BLOOD RESULTS BACK!!

Testosterone 9.1
Range: 8.4 - 28.8 nmol/L

This is equivalent to 350ng/dl!!!

I'm pretty happy with this result and will be switching to clomid.

 

[jay89]

Thats great news! Any thought of doing another couple weeks of hcg then jumping on clomid?

 

[Tyler81]

Day 9 cont'd

Last summer when I didnt use Beta Hcg my level was 4.0nmol/L after one month off.

So this result is SUPER encouraging because it means my testicles are capable of producing T and switching to clomid should be a fairly smooth transition now

 

[Tyler81]

Thats great news! Any thought of doing another couple weeks of hcg then jumping on clomid?

I've done one more 1000ius injection after this blood test, and I may do one more to round out the total to 5000ius.

But the goal of Hcg imho is to just make sure the testicles can produce testosterone and since the level is above 300ng/dl the transition to clomid should be fairly smooth and my pituitary should be able to take over.

 

[Tyler81]

I'm feeling super relieved. I know Dr Scally has said he looks for a TT of 350 or greater on Hcg for HPTA restoration.

Now I am sure I will recover it's just a matter of time.

The clomid hell will start tomorrow but i'm only going to take 6.25mg per day with Wellbutrin XL. I will take it as long as I can tolerate it but it has a long half-life too of at least 5 days so that's something to keep in mind.

 

[jay89]

Would you be open to trying low dose nolvadex if clomid sides come up later on?

 

[Tyler81]

Would you be open to trying low dose nolvadex if clomid sides come up later on?

Yes for sure.
Infact I see my endo in November and I may ask him for it.
I will probably only do clomid for two weeks and then let my body take over.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 10
Another wet dream last night WTF lol it's like I'm going through puberty again. I guess that's the Hcg/my nuts coming back.
Will start the clomid today.
I may not post as much while on clomid but I'll try to update once in awhile from here on out.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 10
CLOMID
Broke up 50mg tablet into 1/4 quarters which is 12.5mg each.
Took 1/2 of 12.5mg tablet this morning and will continue 6.25mg per day.
Took Wellbutrin 150mg XL. Will take this along with clomid for mood stability.

Wellbutrin is a powerful med but i will probably still have some sides on clomid. However, this combo should help manage those side effects and allow my pituitary to kick in.

 

[Tyler81]

Fact sheet on Longjack:

How Eurycoma longifolia boosts testosterone levels

 

[Tyler81]

Day 10
Feeling pretty good
The Wellbutrin has a dopagermenic effect the first few days.

 

[jay89]

The Sumatra Tongkat Ali from indonesia looks like it would be interesting to try.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 11
Morning wood again.
Feeling lethargic today but still going to force myself into the gym.
I hope my energy gets better soon.

 

[Tyler81]

Day 11 contd
Dragged myself into the gym.
The start of the workout was very tough because my arms and legs felt heavy and I felt weak. But as I got into it I started feeling better and had a pretty good workout.

I also ran for 15 mins.

I know compound excercises boost T the most so will focus on those during my recovery.