Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

Not with NATO sending aid like this, no they have no chance. In case you haven't noticed they still don't even control Bakhmut after 8 months of assaulting it. This is not an asymmetrical war this is symmetrical, because of the NATO weapons.

But without aid, yes Russia would by occupying Ukraine. Ukraine would've run out of equipment somewhere around July. Is this disputed by the Russians, US, NATO, Ukraine, General Bakshi? Is this something you think I've been inconsistent about? I think it's more likely you're misunderstanding me. And even if Russia was occupying Ukraine you'd have that counter-insurgency guerilla war I was referring to because Ukraine isn't giving up any time soon.


None of that relates to the Ukraine War, except that you want your guy running the country instead and you feel if Ukraine succeed Biden succeeds. You have a fetish with spinning every topic in the news into a Biden outrage or Biden failure, so you've become a Putin lover.


Go ahead and reread what I wrote, because you just aren't understanding it. I'll help you, I wrote:
"No one has invaded anyone in Europe for 80 years since WWII"
That is not a lie. I didn't say anything about borders not ever changing. The Kosovo War was a civil war fought in Yugoslavia, where the UN eventually went in and stopped people from fighting and Yugoslavia broke up. So borders have changed in just one country, internally.

And none of that changes my original point: The last time there was such an invasion in Europe 400,000 Americans died because Germany invaded Poland. After WWII we formed the UN and said now we respect each others border and no one invades anyone. Russia is trying to break that 80 year precedent here. Russia is trying to say it's okay to invade your neighbors if you don't like what's going on there.


He doesn't need to. All he needs is for one missile to be shot from one side to the other to start WWIII. And you're telling me that doesn't affect our national security in any way whatsoever?

No, most of them agreed it was a good idea with small minority of outliers who disagreed on Ukraine and Georgia joining- which is why Georgia and Ukraine never got into NATO and wasn't going to for the foreseeable future.

Remember? You need a unanimous vote to join NATO. And we didn't ask Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania to join NATO, they asked us. We unanimously agreed. In hindsight, they were right to ask us. In hindsight, we were right to protect them to contain Russian expansion.

Good God almighty lol...

What a goddamn idiot...lol

"Putin could take over the world as a megalomaniac cartoon supervillain bent on world domination if he takes Ukraine he'll take all of Europe, look at my gay assed little map"

Then

"Russia could never occupy all of Ukraine because the bordering countries wouldn't let it"


Lmfao

First,

"Washington didn't orchestrate a coup in Ukraine that triggered a civil war"

Then

"It can't be a coup because it had local support from some Ukrainian people"

What an idiot...

Because the Donbass had support too, but not from Ukraine.

So if this idiot @hometeam watched the Jan 6 protest stretch out for months sponsored by Russian ogliarchs and politicians that ended with a violent coup and installation of a pro Moscow regime in Washington, would this same idiot @hometeam claim : well, "it wasn't a Russian coup because it had local support of American people"?

I think we all know the answer.

A fool can't hide his folly anymore than a zebra can hide it's spots.

But it's "everyone else that's partisan" except for the partisan idiot

And the emperor has such nice clothes...
If you don't see them, then you're the problem....says the village idiot @hometeam
 
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Until now, the only war we've seen in Europe is the Yugoslavia civil war, so you can thank the US for that 80 years of relative peace in Europe. And Yugoslavia would've been much worse if not for the US/NATO/UN too

Most of Europe doesn't even spend 2% of their GDP on their military. Why? Because they've got the US protecting them. See all those bases? They are wanted there. And in the event of WWIII, it's best to have your military spread out.
Liar usa with europe destroys yougoslavia
Usa make democraty in your ass
 
Liar usa with europe destroys yougoslavia
Usa make democraty in your ass

Good point.

Without Washington and NATO intervention from the beginning, Yugoslavia might not have split apart.

Washington created political violence and unrest to destabilize the country and manufacture chaos that gives them opportunities to expand influence and fleece money, power and resources.

Because Washington is not even loyal to American citizens.
It's entirely devoted to the acquisition of money, power and influence.

And it will fuck over anybody in it's way to this end. Even it's own citizens.

The biggest problem America has is idiots like @hometeam that cheer for this terrible regime bent on ruling the world by force.
 
"Washington didn't orchestrate a coup in Ukraine that triggered a civil war"

Then

"It can't be a coup because it had local support from some Ukrainian people"

What an idiot...

Because the Donbass had support too, but not from Ukraine.
We didn't arm any militias in Ukraine like Russia did. Did we start some George Soros type protest? Who knows? There's no evidence to show we did. Zero. And they say they didn't. And the Ukrainians had a reason to protest. Either way, it wasn't the protest that was Yanukovych's downfall it was the Russian/Syrian style crackdown of the protest and the outrage afterwards.

There could be aliens on Earth, and we've seen UFOs, but until we have proof it's just your paranoid hunch. Don't talk about it like it's fact, just because it's your fetish to spin every topic in the news into a Biden outrage or Biden failure.

And even if we did, it's not Putin's country. It doesn't justify an invasion. It doesn't justify arming those militias. It didn't start a civil war without Putin arming those militias. And we could've given Ukraine enough aid to beat those militias but Obama was afraid it would provoke Putin. We know now Putin was going to invade anyway and we probably should've.
 
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And Yanukovych could have stayed, made the case it's not his fault, weathered the storm until the elections later that year. But he decided to go to Russia and not come back. That's not on anybody but him, and the Russian special forces helicopter that picked him up and took him to Russia.
 
@Hughinn I can already predict your response:
"Stupid comment. You dumb fukk! Of course Yanukovych had to leave Ukraine and it was a coup because Joe Biden and his globalist corporate handlers made him go away."

But seriously, how are we even talking about a "coup" when he called up his Russian special forces ride and permanently left the country on his own free will without being in handcuffs or having a gun to his head? He did this while he was still President.

He was never in more danger than Zelensky is now. I think he was afraid of getting charged over those protester deaths and he didn't want to defend himself.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWzI9V3WSnc
 
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@Hughinn I can already predict your response:
"Stupid comment. You dumb fukk! Of course Yanukovych had to leave Ukraine and it was a coup because Joe Biden and his globalist corporate handlers made him go away."

But seriously, how are we even talking about a "coup" when he called up his Russian special forces ride and permanently left the country on his own free will without being in handcuffs or having a gun to his head? He did this while he was still President.

He was never in more danger than Zelensky is now. I think he was afraid of getting charged over those protester deaths and he didn't want to defend himself.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWzI9V3WSnc

Shut up the world don’t want live like usa with lgbt democraty
 
We didn't arm any militias in Ukraine like Russia did.

Again, you are a lying POS.

The US has been arming Ukrainian neo Nazi militia groups in Ukraine since 2014


"The United States has been aiding and training Ukrainian forces in their fight against Russian-backed separatists since 2014, and recently expanded that aid to include arms. The omnibus includes about $620.7 million in aid for Ukraine, including $420.7 million in State Department and foreign operations funds and $200 million in Pentagon funds"
And that includes neo Nazi militia groups that quite literally threatened the ukranian government itself


Armed Nationalists in Ukraine Pose a Threat Not Just to Russia (Published 2022)







Did we start some George Soros type protest? Who knows? There's no evidence to show we did. Zero.

You're a lying POS once again



And they say they didn't. And the Ukrainians had a reason to protest.

Every country has dissatisfied citizens, even America.

A corrupt Eastern European ogliarchy like Ukraine, undoubtedly has more than most.


Either way, it wasn't the protest that was Yanukovych's downfall it was the Russian/Syrian style crackdown of the protest and the outrage afterwards.

Like I've already showed your lying ass over and over, the MAIDAN CONTROLLED BUILDINGS orchestrated the MAIDAN massacre.

The parroting of useless bullshit over and over is not going to change the FACTs



And even if we did, it's not Putin's country. It doesn't justify an invasion. It doesn't justify arming those militias.

Lmfao...

Never mind the neo Nazi militia groups Joe Biden armed.

"So what if we did, it's not Putin's country"

Well, it's not Washington's country either


It didn't start a civil war without Putin arming those militias.

The war started by Ukraine attacking separatists after the Washington coup.

Russia had nothing to do with it before then




And we could've given Ukraine enough aid to beat those militias but Obama was afraid it would provoke Putin. We know now Putin was going to invade anyway and we probably should've.

Now you're lying again.

Obama armed them anyway

 
@Hughinn I can already predict your response:
"Stupid comment. You dumb fukk! Of course Yanukovych had to leave Ukraine and it was a coup because Joe Biden and his globalist corporate handlers made him go away."

But seriously, how are we even talking about a "coup" when he called up his Russian special forces ride and permanently left the country on his own free will without being in handcuffs or having a gun to his head? He did this while he was still President.

He was never in more danger than Zelensky is now. I think he was afraid of getting charged over those protester deaths and he didn't want to defend himself.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWzI9V3WSnc



Ha.

Zelensky is in danger of his own neo Nazi militia groups and his ogliarch handlers in Washington more than anything else.

And your comments are insanely stupid and childish as well as completely dishonest and inaccurate as I've shown above multiple times
 
What other parts of democracy don't you agree with?
And why dont you move to Russia if you like them so much ? They need good strong man like you .

Who says we've got a democracy Pete?

Government institutions like the FBI censoring information on social media platforms and disseminating disinformation intentionally to affect the outcome of an election doesn't happen in a democracy.

Media outlets claiming to be news sources running cover for certain political parties while intentionally spreading lies and propoganda to benifit themselves and the corporate handler's of it's bought politicians doesn't happen in a democracy Pete.

National political parties sponsoring and coordinating censorship of political information with the help of government institutions and media corporations doesn't happen in a democracy Pete

Maybe the guy does like democracy. Nothing says flying rainbow flags and advocating censorship of opposition views has anything to do with democracy'
 
Russia is
Who says we've got a democracy Pete?

Government institutions like the FBI censoring information on social media platforms and disseminating disinformation intentionally to affect the outcome of an election doesn't happen in a democracy.

Media outlets claiming to be news sources running cover for certain political parties while intentionally spreading lies and propoganda to benifit themselves and the corporate handler's of it's bought politicians doesn't happen in a democracy Pete.

National political parties sponsoring and coordinating censorship of political information with the help of government institutions and media corporations doesn't happen in a democracy Pete

Maybe the guy does like democracy. Nothing says flying rainbow flags and advocating censorship of opposition views has anything to do with democracy'
Russia is waiting with open arms .
But i agree to some point as its all illuminati run everything Russia and USA also they want one world government and a world war is the only way to get there unless they fake an alien invasion or come up with some crazy shit they find in the pyramids .
The only way out is Jesus really !
If you believe and repent you have nothing to worry about at least thats where i am right now .
 
What other parts of democracy don't you agree with?
And why dont you move to Russia if you like them so much ? They need good strong man like you .
Move to russia why not or north korea
I don’t like democraty like usa europe
I don’t like the human right
it’s just bullshit of mass media
 
Russia is

Russia is waiting with open arms .
But i agree to some point as its all illuminati run everything Russia and USA also they want one world government and a world war is the only way to get there unless they fake an alien invasion or come up with some crazy shit they find in the pyramids .
The only way out is Jesus really !
If you believe and repent you have nothing to worry about at least thats where i am right now .

I agree Pete.

The only thing in my opinion is that I don't see Moscow as any worse or better than Washington.

But I also believe that the people themselves, Russian, Ukrainian or European and American are not synonymous with the governments in question.

This war is about nothing more than the vested monetary interests deciding who gets to control the economic resources and who profits from their exploitation.

European countries trading in volume for Russian energy was a great benifit to both Russia and Europe. But not Washington. So they blew up the energy pipelines to prevent an economic relationship that would cut them out of that market and started a war in Ukraine that would hinder China's aspirations of a new silk road of trading with the west through a corridor in Ukraine.

This has nothing to do with "democracy" "independence" or any of the other bullshit words and propoganda catch phrases @hometeam keeps throwing around

It has everything to do with his idea of a unipolar world order that dictates what everyone else gets to do and what world status they have. And he's stupid enough to call such an idea "democracy"
 
I agree Pete.

The only thing in my opinion is that I don't see Moscow as any worse or better than Washington.

But I also believe that the people themselves, Russian, Ukrainian or European and American are not synonymous with the governments in question.

This war is about nothing more than the vested monetary interests deciding who gets to control the economic resources and who profits from their exploitation.

European countries trading in volume for Russian energy was a great benifit to both Russia and Europe. But not Washington. So they blew up the energy pipelines to prevent an economic relationship that would cut them out of that market and started a war in Ukraine that would hinder China's aspirations of a new silk road of trading with the west through a corridor in Ukraine.

This has nothing to do with "democracy" "independence" or any of the other bullshit words and propoganda catch phrases @hometeam keeps throwing around

It has everything to do with his idea of a unipolar world order that dictates what everyone else gets to do and what world status they have. And he's stupid enough to call such an idea "democracy"
Exactly
 
The new world order is finish
The democraty country are just a police state
All terrorist like daech work for Usa or Israel
Obama is a mass killer ( i have a drone not a dream)

Which brings up a question about the bullshit @hometeam keeps parroting about the Washington led and funded coup in Ukraine, that he keeps claiming was about "Ukrainian independence" and not a sponsored textbook color revolution

What type of “organic” protest movement insists on allowing foreign governments and NGO’s to remain involved in their domestic politics?

Certainly not one who's entire aim is national sovereignty and independence
 
Again, you are a lying POS.

The US has been arming Ukrainian neo Nazi militia groups in Ukraine since 2014


"The United States has been aiding and training Ukrainian forces in their fight against Russian-backed separatists since 2014, and recently expanded that aid to include arms. The omnibus includes about $620.7 million in aid for Ukraine, including $420.7 million in State Department and foreign operations funds and $200 million in Pentagon funds"
And that includes neo Nazi militia groups that quite literally threatened the ukranian government itself


Armed Nationalists in Ukraine Pose a Threat Not Just to Russia (Published 2022)
Why are you misleading people like this? You said there was a coup and stated it matter of fact. I said "We didn't arm any militias in Ukraine like Russia did" and that's true. And arming militias would be part of creating such a coup, like with Bay of Pigs in Cuba. We didn't do that in Ukraine, Russia did.

Then you send this link about us sending some minor aid and arms to the Ukrainian military, not militias, in response to Russia arming separatist militias and you say "The US has been arming Ukrainian neo Nazi militia groups in Ukraine since 2014" and we haven't - this was the regular Ukrainian army (Azov Battalion is regular army), who had nothing to do with the Maidan protests, the crackdown, or Yanukovych leaving to Russia and not coming back.

And the fact is, Russia was sending these separatist militias armored vehicles, rockets and other arms the Ukrainians were having trouble with, Obama was being pressured to send the javelin and heavy equipment to counter and eliminate them but after debate he decided not to because he was afraid it would escalate and maybe "provoke" Putin so the war between the Ukrainian army and Russian backed separatist militias raged on for 8 years when we could've sent Ukraine enough aid to stop it.

Here's 4 former administration officials who testify to that, and I've linked to the exact part where they say it:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOTx7HxVDsM&t=2781s


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXLcCrLrh4&t=1548s


View: https://youtu.be/CiKZPRoqOpg?t=1921

The Putin Files: William Burns

So, what's wrong with you that you just can't say it like it really is? You push minority opinion as fact.
 
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You're a lying POS once again


Again this doesn't say we funded some George Soros type protest. Why are you acting like you know for a fact that's what happened? There is no evidence of that. Zero. None. Even if we did, which is perfectly fine for us to do in a democratic country, that wasn't the cause of Yanukovych's downfall it was the Russian/Syrian style crackdown of the protest and the outrage afterwards.

Do you not know the difference between a hunch of yours and something that's factually known?

Like I've already showed your lying ass over and over, the MAIDAN CONTROLLED BUILDINGS orchestrated the MAIDAN massacre.

The parroting of useless bullshit over and over is not going to change the FACTs

That's not what you've shown. You've shown a little known paper from a biased political science professor that wasn't printed, everybody it was presented to said was crap, and another professor dismantles it piece-by-piece here:

So, what's wrong with you that you're acting like this is some kind of proof? The minority unproven opposing viewpoint is not something you can talk about as if it's a fact.
 
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