Safe AAS cycle at older age (50 years)

[may2021]

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[jessie2022]

Great

 

[TrenTrenTren]

The day I can’t inject myself with a shot of test is the day I know my time is up…..take me cause I’ve done all I’m gonna do

My girl and I both say this.

 

[Titan72]

Your best bet is to get on TRT, why wait till you’re 60? You are already in a state of decay and catabolism from 50-60 if you are staying natural, I don’t see the point

Well, I feel myself too young too start already with TRT. TRT is whole life process and pinning every week. My Test level is in the middle of the range, Every week pinning seems to me not a good idea yet because you´re levels are more than suprafysical. is TRT not triggering Prostate enlargement/ problems?

 

[Titan72]

I would absolutely suggest the trt route since you lost your gains from your last cycle so quickly. It would beg the question of whether it’s even worth going enhanced for 12 weeks to gain and risk health factors only to lose it again. Doesn’t sound like a worthwhile endeavour.

Doing any steroid above natural levels will cause harm on a dose dependent basis so keeping doses conservative is worth it at any age but I do believe the risks grow as we age without as much wiggle room for error.

If you’ve been active your natural test levels are probably good compared to a sedentary population but is still low due to your age.

I would ask whether you’ve gotten your natural levels checked prior to your first cycle to see where you’re starting from?

So my suggestion would be to go enhanced by getting on trt at 150-200mg/week and continue to make gains while protecting your heart. If the day comes you think muscles are worth the issues with lipids then I would start with a light test only cycle to test how it affects your health markers. Maybe in the range of 400-500mg/week for 12 weeks and then continue trt.

After that cycle then adding things like primo or masteron could enhance your next test cycle at still conservative doses.

I’ve been on trt for 11 years and getting my body to almost supraphysiological levels without going over had left to steady gains and zero issues with heart or prostate

My natural test level is in the middle.
What you write i agree totally.
I think keep it basic with a little test and some Primo and thats it.

Good to hear about your TRT regime.
I want to wait some years because if you start with TRT it means whole life pinning till death.

 

[Titan72]

What’s your TT and free T off cycle?

I’m in the same position as you, finding healthiest options etc. so many theories etc, but I would def stay away from deca if not on trt, that would suppress you for months after cycle.

I’m at a crossroad too , health and longevity being a priority. For me I also have to stay legal so no primo for me. My plan is to use 150 mg test a week and try to get my TT around 1000 and do that year round, I use hcg but can’t get it now, and do one 12 week blast a year in the spring. Maybe 5-600 test and 300 deca, then cruise on trt 40 weeks and repeat. No orals anymore for me as well. I want to try to live into my 80s as I wanna see my kids grow up and get my social security money back (although a small fraction) from the gov.

Sounds good.

 

[Titan72]

Get on a dose of higher end TRT train until the gains stop. Then do 300-500mg test. What’s the thought process on waiting until you are 60 to get in trt? I would have to imagine at 50 pct isn’t fun at all, and at that age after suppressing your natural test who’s to say it will even bounce back to what your “normal” was?

The fact with TRT is: Whole life obligatory to pinn every week till death. Also with TRT there is a risk of Oedeem and Prostate enlargement?

 

[Titan72]

Almost 50 here, current protocol and best cycle I’ve ever run. Your mileage may vary.

500 mg Test E wk - E3.5D
550 mg Deca wk - E3.5D
50 mg Tbol - ED wk 1-4
0.25 mg Caber - E3.5D
0.5 mg Anastrozole - 3x / wk
10 mg Tadalafil - ED
10 mg Cardarine - ED
50 mg Anadrol - 3x / wk (heavy days) wk 16-20

Support Stuff
1800 mg NAC - ED
500 mg Tudca - ED
5 g Taurine - ED
4K Fish Oil - ED

You are on TRT also?

 

[Titan72]

If you decide to hold off on the TRT, I would suggest 400 to 500mg of test only. 300mg did fine for you last time so keep it simple and work your way up.

TRT is a lifelong commitment. You will have to inject every week for the rest of your life. You may be able to find transdermals or even go through a real doc. Most guys that I know just self prescribe.

If you like to be precise on your dosage, you can get blood work done. If your in the US you can order and pay for the test oinline then walk in and test.

I'm 50ish myself and have no intension on coming off. You can also have bloods done first to see where your levels are at before you make the decision.

Thanks for your reply.
375 Test with some Primo i am thinking now for the moment.
Are you on TRT?

 

[Titan72]

The thing is when going on a test cycle without an AI, even a small one at 300mg, you're going to retain some water and put on at least 5lbs (2.5kg) of bloat that will go away after cycle. But at 50yrs old you would have to think getting natural test started up again would be tough after a cycle.

For the OP @Titan72 I've tried everything you've mentioned and Primo was the easiest on my body and blood test results, except it raised my hemoglobin/RBC count more than anything (but iron intake is a factor with that too.) It also gave the least results mg for mg. Consensus says it is a good feeling compound, as is Masteron. I have not done just a test/masteron cycle though.

Anavar at 10mg/day should have a little negative effect on your body too except it'll temporarily trash your lipids somewhat. It'll help your body heal though and some think it gives your skin a more youthful appearance too. And it's quite anabolic mg for mg.

Many people your age take low dose deca for the joints.

But if it were me with your goals, I'd do something like:
300 test
400 primo
weekly, and
10mg anavar daily.

And optionally if joints are a concern, and you're not doing a PCT:
100mg deca weekly

But as for health goes, unless you're wasting away any significant weight you put on whether it's fat or muscle is a health risk. There's a reason slender people live longer, right?

Thanks for your opinion.
I totally agree only:
-Real Primo is hard to find
-10 mg anavar is very very light. I was thinking 20-30 mg per day for the last 4 weeks.
-I always have a PCT cycle (20 mg Nolvadex)
- I always during cycle i take 500 IU HCG per week to promoto natural test levels.

Tja Slender people live longer? don't know bro. But who wants to be slender?

 

[Titan72]

150 test, 150 primo. Ramp up/adjust as needed and monitor your blood work.

Jumping on the TRT train might be something you want to look at as well.

I would avoid orals just to keep your lipids a little more clean, but it depends on how you respond. If you did add an oral, anavar would be the only one i would hit at 50, sadly it can also be harsh on lipids.

Sounds oke but i was thinking to double the dose. Or Test 300-350+ Primo 200.

 

[Titan72]

Hello, sir.

I would say its too much.

Anastrozole and Cabergoline are not the safest drugs, and problems from a lack of estrogen and prolactine at an senior age seem to me more fatal than an excess.

These drugs should be taken only according to the tests, besides, for a couple of high-quality KG, the dosages seem excessive , but this is just my opinion.

Before recommending TRT to a person, I would take a look at the bloodtests, but the use of normal doses of testosterone with a small anabolic support (for example, primobolan) in the long term seems to me the more preferable option.

do you have problems with blood pressure and hematocrit?

Dear Driada Medical

The few times i took some AAS. My bloodpressure did not raise a lot. My hematocriet is normally without using AAS already in the higher range...
Last time with Test 350+ 200 Primo i felt like my veins in my Elbow and Ankle were burning/ pumping. Strange feeling...
Also one fingernale became blue/ Hypoxy? Trombose in the veins?? after stopping with ASS it disappeared. a few years ago my ankle was a little swollen when using AAS.

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[Titan72]

Hello, sir.

I would say its too much.

Anastrozole and Cabergoline are not the safest drugs, and problems from a lack of estrogen and prolactine at an senior age seem to me more fatal than an excess.

These drugs should be taken only according to the tests, besides, for a couple of high-quality KG, the dosages seem excessive , but this is just my opinion.

Before recommending TRT to a person, I would take a look at the bloodtests, but the use of normal doses of testosterone with a small anabolic support (for example, primobolan) in the long term seems to me the more preferable option.

do you have problems with blood pressure and hematocrit?

What do you advise in my situation. Test+ Primo or Mast?

 

[Juicy AF]

You are on TRT also?

Yea

 

[Driada Medical]

What do you advise in my situation. Test+ Primo or Mast?

If we talk about side effects - Of these two Primo for sure.

I heard a lot about NPP or ND here, that is not favorable at age 50... well there is another study about it - people use it in small doses for a long time(about a year if i remember), and...they get better(and bigger))) with no side effects (well... on 50mg a week).

I would try NPP about 300 a week for 6 weeks, if you are on TRT it would totally make sense - if you are not and you are ok with liver... T-bol is my personal favorite.

 

[HDH]

Thanks for your reply.
375 Test with some Primo i am thinking now for the moment.
Are you on TRT?

Sounds like a good cycle man.

I can't really say I'm on TRT. It's more like a blast and cruise with cruise being above TRT.

If funds are there for you another good addition would be a low dose "anti aging" protocol of HGH. Lots of good sponsors in the underground forum.

You would have to pin daily though and it would be something you would do ideally for the rest of your life.

It's not like the test though, you don't have to stay on once you've started. It's something I would recommend to anyone over 40.

 

[Titan72]

If we talk about side effects - Of these two Primo for sure.

I heard a lot about NPP or ND here, that is not favorable at age 50... well there is another study about it - people use it in small doses for a long time(about a year if i remember), and...they get better(and bigger))) with no side effects (well... on 50mg a week).

I would try NPP about 300 a week for 6 weeks, if you are on TRT it would totally make sense - if you are not and you are ok with liver... T-bol is my personal favorite.

Thanks for your reply.

And what about kickstart with 4 weeks dianabol 20 mg per day?

Or:
Test 300+ Primo 200+ deca 100 for 10 weeks?

 

[Titan72]

Sounds like a good cycle man.

I can't really say I'm on TRT. It's more like a blast and cruise with cruise being above TRT.

If funds are there for you another good addition would be a low dose "anti aging" protocol of HGH. Lots of good sponsors in the underground forum.

You would have to pin daily though and it would be something you would do ideally for the rest of your life.

It's not like the test though, you don't have to stay on once you've started. It's something I would recommend to anyone over 40.

Well HGH, too dangerous for me

What i always wondering about TRT, Is it possible to inject 0.4 ml Test with an insuline needle into abdominal fat? Or is it not favourable?

 

[HDH]

Well HGH, too dangerous for me

What i always wondering about TRT, Is it possible to inject 0.4 ml Test with an insuline needle into abdominal fat? Or is it not favourable?

Yes sir, I use slin pins anytime I inject 1ml or less. If the oil is thick warm the bottle up a little.

Subq is fine, many guys run it like that. Some have issues and some don't. Issues being bruising. Sometimes it can depend on the raws or brewer.

Do you have a history of cancer or family members with issues? Asking in reply to the hgh.

Remember to keep it simple. If you don't have any joint issues I would leave the deca and npp out of it.

 

[Titan72]

Yes sir, I use slin pins anytime I inject 1ml or less. If the oil is thick warm the bottle up a little.

Subq is fine, many guys run it like that. Some have issues and some don't. Issues being bruising. Sometimes it can depend on the raws or brewer.

Do you have a history of cancer or family members with issues? Asking in reply to the hgh.

Remember to keep it simple. If you don't have any joint issues I would leave the deca and npp out of it.

Unfortunalty cancer is common in my family (both parents)

I agree with the deca. But to gain some quality kg's is deca not nessecary?