Is deca at long term use not dangerous?
-Triggering MS
- Bad for veins
Don;t know but there are so many opinions about it...
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Safe AAS cycle at older age (50 years)
- Thread starter Titan72
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-Triggering MS
- Bad for veins
Don;t know but there are so many opinions about it...
This looks fine, but if you only want to run 10 weeks that’s short to see the effects of primo. Maybe run mast P instead. If your lipids are ok toss in some Var.
If I remember right from when I was trying to decide to go on trt, I think men with lower test levels had a higher chance of having prostate issues than men with higher levels. Now that doesn’t mean blasting for a year obviously. Oedeem could be an issue if you e2 levels get out of wack. Go to a TRT doc and get monitored I feel an actual dose of TRT is pretty safe and is good for a better quality of life. Doesn’t mean injections for the rest of your life, I have some friends that do the pellets and that’s once every 6 months.
I am living in the Netherlands and the medical docs are very old skool fashioned. They only want to help you if blood test will prove your test level is too low. In my case this isn't the case.
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Theworm
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Trt is not bad I pin 42mg SQ with insulin needle, no pain at all etc
this is ridicule
father of my wif is 81 years old, his TT is 797.....
is absolutely subjective
-It was hard to find 5-10 years ago but things have changed. There's a lab test forum here where people post results from having their gear tested. It's much more likely to be real than fake, especially if from one of the more reputable sources that's been around for awhile.
-I'd suggest 10mg anavar just because you said your health is important to you and anavar is maybe the harshest compound on lipids. Seriously in 3 days your lipids will be in the toilet, but it's temporary. It won't be your main growth compound but will help with recovery and collagen synthesis and work in synergy.
-PCT would mean staying away from the 19-nors such as deca/nandrolone
-Yeah smaller people live longer for many reason. Whatever you take will be a trading health for cosmetic purposes.
Also anyone who has taken primo will likely tell you that at 200mg you barely know you're taking anything. It's that weak. So for a cycle you would probably want more. And plain old testosterone is probably your healthiest option by far.
Deezznutzz
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Yep I just ran a cycle of 300 Primo from a legit trusted source and I didn't notice anything. Maybe I should have done a higher dose or just bumped up the testosterone instead. I got zero extra results that I noticed I'm sure they're there but I don't notice any of them LOL. I got good gaines from the cycle but I just couldn't differentiate if it was from the test,anavar or primo.
You can comfortably run a generous trt 200/300 mg a week or something to get you around 1000-1200 even slightly higher at times without health issues and skewed numbers in your bloodwork. But test only. As soon as something is added it’s a whole new ballgame and not worth it. A little small dose of primo or masteron literally will do nothing to enhance your experience of a good trt dose. Test is king. Just my opinion but I see it time and time again in real life and you won’t have anything weird to explain in your health markers if you don’t want to tell a doctor for example during a check up. Add even 1 Anavar in the mix and liver and lipids go to shit , add some gh maybe sugar gets high etc.
No sir, deca is not necessary, at all. Really it's one of the more weaker compounds but makes it more difficult to recover the older we get.
I always run low dose for joints but I don't worry about having to start back up after a cycle either.
Get you body in an anabolic state and place emphasis on proper nutrition (more important than the gear), rest and training.
I don't use stronger compounds unless I'm going for a look.
You seem pretty intelligent so I'm sure you'll make a good choice for youself. It's tough planning the first cycles. We can be like kids in a candy store, lol
Every day?
WannaBeBIG
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Being on trt is definitely a commitment but for me was an essential treatment but considering it’s benefits I probably would have investigated it heartily even if I didn’t have low t.
But saying it’s a commitment is somewhat silly since it’s less than five minutes a couple times a week on average and regular bloodwork that really we should all be paying attention to anyway as lifters.
@Titan72 I really like how you want to be informed before taking the plunge and dealing with the consequences after. To me a curiosity is what draws us all into the realm of steroids and once we learn their effects it seems almost too good to be true. Definitely hang onto that curiosity!
But saying it’s a commitment is somewhat silly since it’s less than five minutes a couple times a week on average and regular bloodwork that really we should all be paying attention to anyway as lifters.
@Titan72 I really like how you want to be informed before taking the plunge and dealing with the consequences after. To me a curiosity is what draws us all into the realm of steroids and once we learn their effects it seems almost too good to be true. Definitely hang onto that curiosity!
I respectfully disagree.
A 40 year old man, if living to be 85 would be committed to injecting himself 2,340 times if only injecting once per week.
It's not the 5 mins, it's the 45 years
No, you just take cialis at 5mg a day for prostate health, increased blood flow and gym pump. Problem solved
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Theworm
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Every 3 daysEvery day?
I preload the pins for the week and it’s not a hassle at all or painful at all
WannaBeBIG
Well-known Member
I can appreciate the large number of singular injections if you look at it that way but speaking from personal experience having been on trt now for 11 years and at 35 know I have a long time ahead of me I still don’t see it as a burden.I respectfully disagree.
A 40 year old man, if living to be 85 would be committed to injecting himself 2,340 times if only injecting once per week.
It's not the 5 mins, it's the 45 years
I only see the benefits of trt and that’s after being well versed in pinning for years
Rido
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Even if TRT would take 5 years off my life for being in peak physical condition the whole time. I would..
Thanks bro,
I want to keep as long natural as possible. I am a little concerned to go on TRT lifelong..I am afraid of prostate enlargement and my haematocriet. With TRT there is no return possible.
I want to try it on the old skool way, training and eating healthy, with good food and in summer a ligt AAS cycle for some gains. In the future when i notice that my libido will disappear or my muscles, i will definityl start with TRT. Quality life above quantity.
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