SCAMMER - BEWARE (PINNACLE ELEMENTS)

[funkygiraffe]

What’s up y’all. Here is a summary of my experience with user @Pinnacle Elements

He made a post on August 21st offering up his extra Meditrope kits for sale. [He has since deleted the post. Attached down below is a similar photo of his that was included in his sale post.] I jumped on this offer.

We worked out that I would be buying 6 kits of TP Gold tops for $700+shipping.
I sent payment the same night.
He follows up tomorrow letting me know he only has 4 kits of golds… this threw me off because he claimed to have 8 kits in his original post. This caused me to ask @Pinnacle Elements for a refund because I was not interested in buying black tops.
He agrees to refund me and has been extremely responsive thus far w/ me. I think everything is fine and await the BTC to hit my wallet.

Pinnacle has since ghosted my attempts to get in contact with him despite being active on the forum and being really responsive prior to my asking for a refund.
I’ve bought product from Meso members like Rido without issue, and foolishly assumed that this guy, an active forum member would be reliable too.
I’m now in the hole over $700 with no GH to show for it! (I cry)

ANYWAYS…. BEWARE AND DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PINNACLE ELEMENTS.

@Pinnacle Elements Please get in contact with me and send me my money, once the BTC hits my wallet I will delete this post entirely.

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[bigboy420]

Should have used escrow

 

[funkygiraffe]

Should have used escrow

Yup.. he made off with an easy $700.
Still hoping he will sort this out— but doubtful.
You live and you learn I guess.

 

[B Ware]

What’s up y’all. Here is a summary of my experience with user @Pinnacle Elements

He made a post on August 21st offering up his extra Meditrope kits for sale. [He has since deleted the post. Attached down below is a similar photo of his that was included in his sale post.] I jumped on this offer.

We worked out that I would be buying 6 kits of TP Gold tops for $700+shipping.
I sent payment the same night.
He follows up tomorrow letting me know he only has 4 kits of golds… this threw me off because he claimed to have 8 kits in his original post. This caused me to ask @Pinnacle Elements for a refund because I was not interested in buying black tops.
He agrees to refund me and has been extremely responsive thus far w/ me. I think everything is fine and await the BTC to hit my wallet.

Pinnacle has since ghosted my attempts to get in contact with him despite being active on the forum and being really responsive prior to my asking for a refund.
I’ve bought product from Meso members like Rido without issue, and foolishly assumed that this guy, an active forum member would be reliable too.
I’m now in the hole over $700 with no GH to show for it! (I cry)

ANYWAYS…. BEWARE AND DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PINNACLE ELEMENTS.

@Pinnacle Elements Please get in contact with me and send me my money, once the BTC hits my wallet I will delete this post entirely.

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Sorry that happened to you. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully this prevents others from making the same mistake.

 

[AlexDavis43]

What’s up y’all. Here is a summary of my experience with user @Pinnacle Elements

He made a post on August 21st offering up his extra Meditrope kits for sale. [He has since deleted the post. Attached down below is a similar photo of his that was included in his sale post.] I jumped on this offer.

We worked out that I would be buying 6 kits of TP Gold tops for $700+shipping.
I sent payment the same night.
He follows up tomorrow letting me know he only has 4 kits of golds… this threw me off because he claimed to have 8 kits in his original post. This caused me to ask @Pinnacle Elements for a refund because I was not interested in buying black tops.
He agrees to refund me and has been extremely responsive thus far w/ me. I think everything is fine and await the BTC to hit my wallet.

Pinnacle has since ghosted my attempts to get in contact with him despite being active on the forum and being really responsive prior to my asking for a refund.
I’ve bought product from Meso members like Rido without issue, and foolishly assumed that this guy, an active forum member would be reliable too.
I’m now in the hole over $700 with no GH to show for it! (I cry)

ANYWAYS…. BEWARE AND DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PINNACLE ELEMENTS.

@Pinnacle Elements Please get in contact with me and send me my money, once the BTC hits my wallet I will delete this post entirely.

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Damn that sucks. Pinnacle is pretty active here and seems like a good guy. Let's see how this pans out. Hope you're made whole.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

I fucking hate scammers.

 

[fooba]

He has since deleted the post.

99.99% sure that he did not delete the post. to post in the underground, youre required to have your own lab tests for any products youre selling or trading, even if youre reselling products that have been tested by others. this is the likely reason why his thread was deleted and should have given you red flags immediately.

once the BTC hits my wallet I will delete this post entirely.

you cant delete this even if he sends the btc. thats the beauty of this site.

 

[AlexDavis43]

99.99% sure that he did not delete the post. to post in the underground, youre required to have your own lab tests for any products youre selling or trading, even if youre reselling products that have been tested by others. this is the likely reason why his thread was deleted and should have given you red flags immediately.

Not sure if this applies, but other re-shippers seem to have been able to evade this by selling products that have been tested by someone else (maybe their source?).

Pinnacle could've emailed the mods to request it deleted. Not sure about this either.

 

[funkygiraffe]

Not sure if this applies, but other re-shippers seem to have been able to evade this by selling products that have been tested by someone else (maybe their source?).

Pinnacle could've emailed the mods to request it deleted. Not sure about this either.

My thoughts are that he did not originally intend to scam me and truly made a mistake about how many gold tops he had, however-- upon realizing that I didn't want to go through with the deal anymore realized I was easy pickins' because I already sent over the money.

 

[AlexDavis43]

My thoughts are that he did not originally intend to scam me and truly made a mistake about how many gold tops he had, however-- upon realizing that I didn't want to go through with the deal anymore realized I was easy pickins' because I already sent over the money.

Pinnacle is here practically every day. Meso is obviously a part of his life (not judging). I doubt he'd risk that for this, and that's exactly what he'd be doing.

Give it a few days. Sucks in the meantime, I know.

 

[fooba]

Not sure if this applies, but other re-shippers seem to have been able to evade this by selling products that have been tested by someone else (maybe their source?).

Pinnacle could've emailed the mods to request it deleted. Not sure about this either.

could be that those people created their threads before millard imposed those requirements, but that cant be the case for this situation as op claims the thread was created on august 21st.

 

[malfeasance]

Should have used escrow

What is this? Escrow for drug deals?

 

[AlexDavis43]

could be that those people created their threads before millard imposed those requirements, but that cant be the case for this situation as op claims the thread was created on august 21st.

That's pretty clear but was Pinnacle officially a new vendor? No subscriber tag. Otherwise yeah that could be the reason.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Should have used escrow

What is this? Escrow for drug deals?

Yeah but it's still a trust issue, I think: you send me the money, I send it to the vendor when you receive your gear. Vendor trusts me to send the money when you receive your gear.

You're trusting me: 1) to not run away with your money; and 2) that I'm not colluding with said vendor to rip you off.

Maybe you could choose who held escrow based on relationships here. A lot of cooperation required aka big pain in the ass. Not recommended. Let this be a lesson.

 

[Type-IIx]

Yeah but it's still a trust issue, I think: you send me the money, I send it to the vendor when you receive your gear. Vendor trusts me to send the money when you receive your gear.

You're trusting me: 1) to not run away with your money; and 2) that I'm not colluding with said vendor to rip you off.

Maybe you could choose who held escrow based on relationships here. A lot of cooperation required aka big pain in the ass. Not recommended. Let this be a lesson.

You seem like you’ve gotten dumber since we last interacted

 

[Meatgazer]

Yeah but it's still a trust issue, I think: you send me the money, I send it to the vendor when you receive your gear. Vendor trusts me to send the money when you receive your gear.

You're trusting me: 1) to not run away with your money; and 2) that I'm not colluding with said vendor to rip you off.

Maybe you could choose who held escrow based on relationships here. A lot of cooperation required aka big pain in the ass. Not recommended. Let this be a lesson.

How would you protect yourself when either side accuses you of being the thief? The “escrow” or trustee or executor, or whatever, is now the perfect fall guy for shenanigans

 

[fooba]

That's pretty clear but was Pinnacle officially a new vendor? No subscriber tag. Otherwise yeah that could be the reason.

my interpretation is that anyone who posts a reselling or trading thread needs to have their own lab tests for products. no subscriber tag doesnt mean anything in this case, as anyone with privilege to post in the underground can make a new thread and slip through the cracks before someone reports their thread for not having lab tests.

@Millard can you clarify this requirement?

 

[AlexDavis43]

How would you protect yourself when either side accuses you of being the thief? The “escrow” or trustee or executor, or whatever, is now the perfect fall guy for shenanigans

I don't know. I wouldn't do it. There are many sources here.

 

[bigboy420]

What is this? Escrow for drug deals?

Escrow is basicly the middleman.
Example: Alibaba is a escrow site that releases cash to sellers when the buyer confirms delivery.
You got sites just for deals like this.

 

[American]

What’s up y’all. Here is a summary of my experience with user @Pinnacle Elements

He made a post on August 21st offering up his extra Meditrope kits for sale. [He has since deleted the post. Attached down below is a similar photo of his that was included in his sale post.] I jumped on this offer.

We worked out that I would be buying 6 kits of TP Gold tops for $700+shipping.
I sent payment the same night.
He follows up tomorrow letting me know he only has 4 kits of golds… this threw me off because he claimed to have 8 kits in his original post. This caused me to ask @Pinnacle Elements for a refund because I was not interested in buying black tops.
He agrees to refund me and has been extremely responsive thus far w/ me. I think everything is fine and await the BTC to hit my wallet.

Pinnacle has since ghosted my attempts to get in contact with him despite being active on the forum and being really responsive prior to my asking for a refund.
I’ve bought product from Meso members like Rido without issue, and foolishly assumed that this guy, an active forum member would be reliable too.
I’m now in the hole over $700 with no GH to show for it! (I cry)

ANYWAYS…. BEWARE AND DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PINNACLE ELEMENTS.

@Pinnacle Elements Please get in contact with me and send me my money, once the BTC hits my wallet I will delete this post entirely.

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Maybe take a screenshot of his pfp so you know if he ever comes back?

That sucks all around.