Short term oppose long term recovery protocols.

[BirdieNumNum]

If someone was to fail at the pct of 2000iu eod hcg followed by clomid and tamoxifen I.e. shitty ass levels way lower than pre cycle levels after and still, small testicles - Designed by @Michael Scally MD I believe. Could you theoretically recover from a long term approach? Have YOU ever used this approach? @Michael Scally MD

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Context is important. Cycle details. hCG stimulation results.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Have you ever had success using a long term approach? That’s all I’m interested in.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I will take that as a no and surmise that you just prescribed them TRT. @Michael Scally MD

 

[Holidaypay]

I will take that as a no and surmise that you just prescribed them TRT. @Michael Scally MD

He's asking because it matters if u blasted tren N Decca for 2 years then ur pct would be a lot longer an aggressive if u did a 12 week cycle of 500 mg test e than used ugl pct supplies there is a good chance u can recover an don't need trt all the info changes the scenario an is very important to the approach that will be taken

 

[BirdieNumNum]

He's asking because it matters if u blasted tren N Decca for 2 years then ur pct would be a lot longer an aggressive if u did a 12 week cycle of 500 mg test e than used ugl pct supplies there is a good chance u can recover an don't need trt all the info changes the scenario an is very important to the approach that will be taken

I asked a simple question, fucking begs belief how people cannot understand the English language. HAS HE HAD SUCCESS. Lol.

 

[TRT@40]

I asked a simple question, fucking begs belief how people cannot understand the English language. HAS HE HAD SUCCESS. Lol.

Not only your testes are not working, I think your brain is affected as well.
Provide the info members are requesting if you want help. Your asking for help and then have the audacity to respond the way you do.
I think there is reason why you dont want to disclose the details of your cycle

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Not only your testes are not working, I think your brain is affected as well.
Provide the info members are requesting if you want help. Your asking for help and then have the audacity to respond the way you do.
I think there is reason why you dont want to disclose the details of your cycle

Woah woah slow the fuck down there sonny. I’m not asking for help. And my testis clearly do work like fuck, quite well considering! I was just enquiring as to whether he has ever treated someone that was in a similar position to me. Again, like holiday you failed to read the English language correctly u fool.

As far as my cycle is concerned, I’ve mentioned it on so many post, posts that you would have read undoubtedly. I’ve had some extreme amounts and it’s took years to get to where I am.

 

[T-Bagger]

Woah woah slow the fuck down there sonny. I’m not asking for help. And my testis clearly do work like fuck!!! I was just enquiring as to whether he has ever treated someone that was in a similar position to me. Again, like holiday you failed to read the English language correctly u fool.

As far as my cycle is concerned, I’ve mentioned it on so many post, posts that you would have read undoubtedly. I’ve had some extreme amounts and it’s took years to get to where I am.

LMAO, you kill me dude. But I get what you’re saying. You didn’t ask for factors that play into it - you just want to know if Scally or anyone else has seen someone get their stuff back after years of AAS usage, regardless of the cycle.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

LMAO, you kill me dude. But I get what you’re saying. You didn’t ask for factors that play into it - you just want to know if Scally or anyone else has seen someone get their stuff back after years of AAS usage, regardless of the cycle.

Exactly mate. It’s only a simple question, I’ve never read of anyone having to take the long term approach with success, but I think I have. What’s wrong with being curious fuck sake? Mans be so madddddd

 

[BirdieNumNum]

@TRT@40 u mad bruh?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I think it’s a conspiracy, a conspiracy that these fucking andrologists/endos are trying to cover it up so we have to buy into TRT. Mo fuks

 

[BirdieNumNum]

On the other hand maybe I’m just a fucking soldier and I managed to live out the 4-5 years of SHIT and survived until homeostasis was in sight. Who knows

 

[T-Bagger]

On the other hand maybe I’m just a fucking soldier and I managed to live out the 4-5 years of SHIT and survived until homeostasis was in sight. Who knows

I forget how old you are, but yeah - you plowed through it and refused to be status quo and good on you for that bro.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Thanks bagger appreciate that.
I’m 26 so TRT wasn’t really what I wanted for life at 21.

 

[T-Bagger]

Thanks bagger appreciate that.
I’m 26 so TRT wasn’t really what I wanted for life at 21.

I’m 46 and don’t want to consider it.

 

[5millionbucks]

I agree going on trt for the rest of your life starting your 20s is a big big fucking decision. Thats why hopefully one fucking day someone can create a drug that can recover males completely after blasting and cruising for years; there just has to be something. If they found a cure for aids or cancer theres got to be a complete cure for something like hypogonadism. But bro going on clomid for a while is pretty risky too; can fuck with eye vision. I would say its going to take a while for the clomid to leave your system; if you been on it for like 6 months+; i believe it wont all clear out for a lil while. I would say getting your bloods drawn months on after from now is a true way to see where your test levels are at.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I agree going on trt for the rest of your life starting your 20s is a big big fucking decision. Thats why hopefully one fucking day someone can create a drug that can recover males completely after blasting and cruising for years; there just has to be something. If they found a cure for aids or cancer theres got to be a complete cure for something like hypogonadism. But bro going on clomid for a while is pretty risky too; can fuck with eye vision. I would say its going to take a while for the clomid to leave your system; if you been on it for like 6 months+; i believe it wont all clear out for a lil while. I would say getting your bloods drawn months on after from now is a true way to see where your test levels are at.

When did they find a cure for AIDS and cancer? They may have come up with successful treatments, but no cures. Remission is not a cure.

Eye vision? As apposed to nose vision and ear vision?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I agree going on trt for the rest of your life starting your 20s is a big big fucking decision. Thats why hopefully one fucking day someone can create a drug that can recover males completely after blasting and cruising for years; there just has to be something. If they found a cure for aids or cancer theres got to be a complete cure for something like hypogonadism. But bro going on clomid for a while is pretty risky too; can fuck with eye vision. I would say its going to take a while for the clomid to leave your system; if you been on it for like 6 months+; i believe it wont all clear out for a lil while. I would say getting your bloods drawn months on after from now is a true way to see where your test levels are at.

I’ve been on clomid for a month at 100mg and just drawn final bloods for the 100mg/ed. See where that is in a couple of days.
As for the vision, yeah it’s true it does fuck with it slightly, bit like a strobe light at times but it’s bearable.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Thats why hopefully one fucking day someone can create a drug that can recover males completely after blasting and cruising for years; there just has to be something.

I believe time is the answer, and a lengthy ass PCT that most persons bodies cannot survive.