I've never been to prison, but I have the cognitive function to rival a housefly, so I read on policy and its impact on society.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Should prisons have weight rooms for convicts?
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phenominal34
Member
Animals remain animals, quit sticking up for them. I bet ya if they did something to your family, friends, loved ones you’d change your tune awfully quickly.
Ohhh don’t put the non violent offenders in jail, what of that non violent offenders sold your niece drugs that ended up killing her would you be all about reform for that piece of shit ?!
Y’all need to get a clue, and stop showing sympathy. Ppl know rite from wrong trust me, it’s just that animals don’t give a fuck and think they can do what they want. Well let them rot once they get caught and then see how they feel. Ohhh I’m a born again... I’m a man of god lol fuck off you’re a god dammm animal that doesn’t care about human life.
Ok gtta go inject my illegal testosterone in my own body now [emoji1305][emoji1303] chow chow weak minded bitches
shackleford
Banned
if you're buying controlled substances without a script, you could find yourself in the same situation. You filthy animal.
shackleford
Banned
beat me to it lol
Logan44551
Elite
In the words of @gr8whitetrucker
"Success is built on a mountain of failure"
shackleford
Banned
reminds me of a saying i saw on a poster in a boss' office once:
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience, well, that comes from bad judgement"
The emojis are nearly as adorable as your profile pic, but still fall short of your mindless insults and unsubstantiated "points". Be honest, your profile pic is your 3rd cycle progress pic.
30+ years ago I worked at a juvenile detention facility that had a weight set...one evening during shower time 5 thugs were able to get ahold of a dumbbell and hit a guard in his head...they escaped but were caught within a few hours...the guard still has health problems from the assault...I say give them nothing!
Test_Subject
Member
So your “argument” is that recidivism in the US is high compared to other places in the world, therefore the US should double down on what it’s doing because it’s working so well?
I don’t even know how to respond to that level of complete ignorance.
I can definitely understand your perspective based off of your experience
I'd say smith machines and cable machines, pullup/dip stations should be at least available as free weights (and bars) can become weapons. A friend of mine from high school days (who just retired from corrections) narrowly escaped serious injury from a dumbbell an inmate threw at him some years ago.
Forthewin1123
Well-known Member
So your on a steroid forum preaching "follow the rules of society ".. guess in your world steroids aren't a felony?? Or do you justify it because it's just steroids and doesn't harm anyone? You made a very broad statement and then went on about a few select incidents that are extreme incidents...lol.. who made excuses? . Your a cuck..
Forthewin1123
Well-known Member
There is some really horrible people in jails/juvys.. there should definitely never be free weights.. that's was a big oversight by someone running the facility.. to me it's seems like commonsense not to have movable heavy metal object that violent criminals or kids who feel hopeless get swing around .. there is also so horrible people that work in these places and get off treating inmates like shit.. there's bad apples everywhere..
Forthewin1123
Well-known Member
Damn.. I just seen the other guys post with a similar event.. but his was 30 years ago or more ..they definitely should not have free weights.. that should be common sense. Glad guy didn't get hit..
Yes this incident I referred to happened like 10 years ago so much more recent than the other one. Still this makes the case to have NO free weights in prisons. I'm sure other members here who are or were corrections officers would agree.
Eman
Master
If people are really that worked up about preventing convicts from having access to weights, looking at what you get in the EU will really trigger you.
Convicts are allowed to wear there own clothes, they get actual beds, "guards" knock before entering your space, some low risk inmates are even allowed to go home and visit family. I have a connection with Germany so a lot of this was explained to me and I shook my head and laughed at how absurd it seemed.
Then the explanation went on... Every single aspect of German and Dutch prisons are built around reforming the prisons. Down to the measurements of the hallways and placement of windows. They take into account the science of reforming criminals and make it into law and they know that retaining a connection with family makes a criminal much less likely to remain a criminal, fitness gives you focus, etc etc. I put the word "guards" in quotation because most prisons employ more social workers, attorneys and mental health experts that have years of training to the few weeks of training that guards here get. 95% of the prisoners are going to get out at some point... The logic is we're just going to treat them like shit and expect them to be all good when they get out? That's absurd.
In the US, we have no focus on reform... It's primarily focused on punishment. Not to mention the fact that many weightlifting programs are funded by internal revenue from prisoners like commissary or phone calls. Aside from that, I'd prefer my tax dollars went beyond punishment and lead to actual reform so my tax dollars don't keep getting spent on so many fucking prisoners that I don't think should be in there in the first place. We incarcerate more people here than anywhere else in the world... Think about that. We just have conservative politicians making rules that look good on paper but in no way reconcile with the science of criminology.
And no, I'm not a former convict. I just put more weight on statistics and science than I do politicians who want to make a good headline.
Convicts are allowed to wear there own clothes, they get actual beds, "guards" knock before entering your space, some low risk inmates are even allowed to go home and visit family. I have a connection with Germany so a lot of this was explained to me and I shook my head and laughed at how absurd it seemed.
Then the explanation went on... Every single aspect of German and Dutch prisons are built around reforming the prisons. Down to the measurements of the hallways and placement of windows. They take into account the science of reforming criminals and make it into law and they know that retaining a connection with family makes a criminal much less likely to remain a criminal, fitness gives you focus, etc etc. I put the word "guards" in quotation because most prisons employ more social workers, attorneys and mental health experts that have years of training to the few weeks of training that guards here get. 95% of the prisoners are going to get out at some point... The logic is we're just going to treat them like shit and expect them to be all good when they get out? That's absurd.
In the US, we have no focus on reform... It's primarily focused on punishment. Not to mention the fact that many weightlifting programs are funded by internal revenue from prisoners like commissary or phone calls. Aside from that, I'd prefer my tax dollars went beyond punishment and lead to actual reform so my tax dollars don't keep getting spent on so many fucking prisoners that I don't think should be in there in the first place. We incarcerate more people here than anywhere else in the world... Think about that. We just have conservative politicians making rules that look good on paper but in no way reconcile with the science of criminology.
And no, I'm not a former convict. I just put more weight on statistics and science than I do politicians who want to make a good headline.
In Canada hard drug trafficking I think schedule 1, maybe others, is considered a violent offence.
Regular Joe
Well-known Member
So put people in chains to force free labor out of them, I think we've done that before
shawn2551
Member
Not too be a dick, but not everyone that goes to prison is some hardend criminal. People can go for many different reasons. I find it funny you say this while posting on a board like this.
