Should prisons have weight rooms for convicts?

[phenominal34]

I had a feeling all you fucking past inmates and addicts would come in here boooo hooooing , they are humans too this and that lol no, they are fucking animals is what they are. Make excuses all you want. Plain and fucking simple follow the rules you won’t go to jail and or prison ....which ya gtta fuck up multiple times or commit a heavy crime. Same goes for ohhh stop shooting blanks - well stop trying to stab two other girls and maybe you won’t get shot. Don’t run back to your car to try and grab something when a cop says stay here. Act like an animal get locked up and shot like an animal period.

FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES OF SOCIETY - ITS NOT TOO HARD TO BE A GOOD PERSON

 

[combover]

They shouldn’t get shit at all but 3 terrible meals and a cot. That’s it, that’s why you have repeat offenders and so much crime because most of them have it better inside and don’t mind going back. This world never ceases to amaze me.

You fucking idiot. It's not cause it's easy in there, it's, cause it's hard out here, especially for someone with a record. The people can't hack it so they commit crimes. Not because they can't wait to get back to shitty food, mattresses and pillows and bunch of dudes, but because they can't figure out how to manage freedom.

I did two years for selling drugs that are now legal. I own multiple companies and employ around 50 people. I bet I pay more in taxes and give back more to society than you. Prove me wrong.

Bitterness like you posted always had to come from somewhere, who hurt you?

 

[phenominal34]

Lol who hurt me ??? Not a fucking sole. Guess what you fucking idiot, it’s illegal to sell drugs you dumb fuck. That’s why you went to prison lol shoulda kept you there ... oooohhh you own a business. So your now the head of the drug selling brigade lmao [emoji23]

It’s so hard outside of prison [emoji1348][emoji1348][emoji1348] getting a job and showing up on time, god who could do such a thing.

A GOOD PERSON UNLIKE YOURSELF !!

 

[phenominal34]

Almost forgot .... DONT GET A RECORD [emoji1305]

 

[combover]

Lol who hurt me ??? Not a fucking sole. Guess what you fucking idiot, it’s illegal to sell drugs you dumb fuck. That’s why you went to prison lol shoulda kept you there ... oooohhh you own a business. So your now the head of the drug selling brigade lmao [emoji23]

It’s so hard outside of prison [emoji1348][emoji1348][emoji1348] getting a job and showing up on time, god who could do such a thing.

A GOOD PERSON UNLIKE YOURSELF !!

Stay on the point smart guy, ya it's dumb to break rules and go to prison, that wasn't what was being discussed.
But all good, I'm happy as a clam and actually met my business partner in prison, we now have a bunch of money and drink expensive tequila in paradise.
I'm about to go pull my racecar out of the garage and go for a drive. Life is good and I wouldn't change a thing.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Stay on the point smart guy, ya it's dumb to break rules and go to prison, that wasn't what was being discussed.
But all good, I'm happy as a clam and actually met my business partner in prison, we now have a bunch of money and drink expensive tequila in paradise.
I'm about to go pull my racecar out of the garage and go for a drive. Life is good and I wouldn't change a thing.

A real man learns more from failure than success.
that's for sure.

The only reason om successful now is because I have fucked up 20x more than the average person

Good to hear you're doing well brother

 

[combover]

A real man learns more from failure than success.
that's for sure.

The only reason om successful now is because I have fucked up 20x more than the average person

Good to hear you're doing well brother

Same to you brother.

I don't even know why I took the bait, I know better than that. Can't imagine how happy that guy thinks he is.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Almost forgot .... DONT GET A RECORD [emoji1305]

This is definitely the truth
I dont think anyone is arguing that going to prison is good or cool

Because it's not
Its fucking stupid.
I'm glad I had some good friends who never snitched and manned up back in the day
I got lucky.
some guys dont

It's just about remembering that cons are human too.
and that people make mistakes and should have the opportunity to correct their mistakes

Some people go to jail because they never had an opportunity for an education, or the color of their skin made sure they couldn't get a job.

I'm not saying its not their fault... it is their fault
Qe all make our own choices.
But we should give our fellow man a chance to make good on it... it pays off to society as a whole in the long run to turn convicts into succes stories

That's all

 

[combover]

This is definitely the truth
I dont think anyone is arguing that going to prison is good or cool

Because it's not
Its fucking stupid.
I'm glad I had some good friends who never snitched and manned up back in the day
I got lucky.
some guys dont

It's just about remembering that cons are human too.
and that people make mistakes and should have the opportunity to correct their mistakes

Some people go to jail because they never had an opportunity for an education, or the color of their skin made sure they couldn't get a job.

I'm not saying its not their fault... it is their fault
Qe all make our own choices.
But we should give our fellow man a chance to make good on it... it pays off to society as a whole in the long run to turn convicts into succes stories

That's all

But how can one do that while also standing on their high horse pointing out others mistakes?

I'd say I have 10 second chance employees that have been with us for a a few years. One of them I got straight out of treatment, she's been one of my team leads for years. I've watched her go from shitty apartment, no money, no license, fines and custody issues.
She has all her kids, recently moved into a nicer place, drives a newer ford fusion and is happy to be making 70k and dealing with the normal stresses of life.

Something about whoever is perfect can cast the first stone or something...

 

[Regular Joe]

I had a feeling all you fucking past inmates and addicts would come in here boooo hooooing , they are humans too this and that lol no, they are fucking animals is what they are. Make excuses all you want. Plain and fucking simple follow the rules you won’t go to jail and or prison ....which ya gtta fuck up multiple times or commit a heavy crime. Same goes for ohhh stop shooting blanks - well stop trying to stab two other girls and maybe you won’t get shot. Don’t run back to your car to try and grab something when a cop says stay here. Act like an animal get locked up and shot like an animal period.

FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES OF SOCIETY - ITS NOT TOO HARD TO BE A GOOD PERSON

FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES OF SOCIETY

What kind of hypocritical douchebag comes on a website dedicated to getting and using illegal or unprescribed does of drugs with a self righteous better than thou attitude. So every bit of AAS you've ever taken was prescribed by a DR?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

But how can one do that while also standing on their high horse pointing out others mistakes?

I'd say I have 10 second chance employees that have been with us for a a few years. One of them I got straight out of treatment, she's been one of my team leads for years. I've watched her go from shitty apartment, no money, no license, fines and custody issues.
She has all her kids, recently moved into a nicer place, drives a newer ford fusion and is happy to be making 70k and dealing with the normal stresses of life.

Something about whoever is perfect can cast the first stone or something...

That's good to hear.

Yeah man, I cant judge others.
Theres a few times I would have been put away for a while
Like I said, I got fucking lucky and snapped out of it before I had to share a bunk.

The way I see it, I could have been any one of those guys.

Some of my beat guys/Girls were either homless or ex cons.
One of my best guys was a murderer (Black guy)
My best girl was a homeless kid with a juvenile record longer than a shopping list. (White girl)

Dont get me wrong, I have great people with no records.
Shitty guys with records
shitty guys who are clean as a whistle

People are people bro

If we judge everyone as an individual, we are much better off.
That includes color etc

 

[Live_Evil]

Maybe we should stop locking people up for victimless crimes before deliberating on the privileges of the convicted? Maybe prison shouldn't be an environment that forces individuals into gangs for simple survival?

It's hard to take any discussion on incarcerated environment seriously when its very basis is ridiculous.

"JUST FOLLOW THE RULES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT!!!" -- I'm sure the same thing was said to the Founding Fathers. I'm sure the same thing was said to slaves and the individuals trying to free them. I'm also quite sure anyone saying something so ridiculous, would quietly stick their penis in a light socket if ordered to do so. Is that the type of person any of us should take advice from?

 

[KingCahoot3627]

Do most inmates want to be reformed or educated? I bet there are some, but I'd guess that most would not take the idea in stride and it would be a waste of money for whoever ends up paying for it. I don't have a dog in this fight, hopefully that's not an offensive opinion.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Maybe we should stop locking people up for victimless crimes before deliberating on the privileges of the convicted? Maybe prison shouldn't be an environment that forces individuals into gangs for simple survival?

It's hard to take any discussion on incarcerated environment seriously when its very basis is ridiculous.

I disagree
The discussion exists because of the reality.

You're right of course
But I totally disagree on the validity of the discussion point, because right now it is what's happening

You're 100% right of course
But that is a seperate discussion
More pertinent, yes.... more valid... yes
But seperate

 

[Live_Evil]

I had a feeling all you fucking past inmates and addicts would come in here boooo hooooing , they are humans too this and that lol no, they are fucking animals is what they are. Make excuses all you want. Plain and fucking simple follow the rules you won’t go to jail and or prison ....which ya gtta fuck up multiple times or commit a heavy crime. Same goes for ohhh stop shooting blanks - well stop trying to stab two other girls and maybe you won’t get shot. Don’t run back to your car to try and grab something when a cop says stay here. Act like an animal get locked up and shot like an animal period.

FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES OF SOCIETY - ITS NOT TOO HARD TO BE A GOOD PERSON

What makes you think that following the law makes you a good person?

I disagree
The discussion exists because of the reality.

You're right of course
But I totally disagree on the validity of the discussion point, because right now it is what's happening

You're 100% right of course
But that is a seperate discussion
More pertinent, yes.... more valid... yes
But seperate

Fair enough man.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Do most inmates want to be reformed or educated? I bet there are some, but I'd guess that most would not take the idea in stride and it would be a waste of money for whoever ends up paying for it. I don't have a dog in this fight, hopefully that's not an offensive opinion.

People dont know what they dont know
It's far more expensive to cater to repeat offenders.
Alot of these boys have NEVER had the opportunity for an education
They dont even understand where it can get them

Sure, the hardcore guys wont change (Mostly) but there needs to be an opportunity

Or why the fuck is America called the land of opportunity

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Do most inmates want to be reformed or educated? I bet there are some, but I'd guess that most would not take the idea in stride and it would be a waste of money for whoever ends up paying for it. I don't have a dog in this fight, hopefully that's not an offensive opinion.

I'll say this
I was poor as fuck growing up
Post secondary just wasnt an option.
If I got straight A's.. I still wasnt going anywhere.
So I didnt give a fuck, because there was ZERO point in even trying.

Queue my bro and I moving product etc, because i ain't working at fucking McDonalds.

The only difference is we had a Mom who kicked our asses, MADE us work our asses off and accepted zero excuses
she made sure food was always on the table and clothes were on our backs.

If I didnt have that,
I'd probably be a career criminal.

some guys had a crack head Mom, so yeah they hit the revolving prison door.
When people get a shot... they might fail.. okay
But they might do well... and that's good for the economy and society

 

[phenominal34]

Maybe we should stop locking people up for victimless crimes before deliberating on the privileges of the convicted? Maybe prison shouldn't be an environment that forces individuals into gangs for simple survival?

It's hard to take any discussion on incarcerated environment seriously when its very basis is ridiculous.

"JUST FOLLOW THE RULES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT!!!" -- I'm sure the same thing was said to the Founding Fathers. I'm sure the same thing was said to slaves and the individuals trying to free them. I'm also quite sure anyone saying something so ridiculous, would quietly stick their penis in a light socket if ordered to do so. Is that the type of person any of us should take advice from?

Lol you’re an idiot [emoji2361]

 

[phenominal34]

What makes you think that following the law makes you a good person?




Fair enough man.

I’ve never been locked up [emoji1303] I can tell 75% of this thread are ex cons and because of that feel the need to stick up for the worlds scum. It’s ok, that’s why the whole help them reform shit is bullshit. Reform yourself or chug a gallon of bleach. You don’t bring any good to this world.

 

[Live_Evil]

The vast majority of the prison population is there because the government has purposefully created a society around making money for individuals who contribute massive campaign donations. It has nothing to do with justice or morality.

Lol you’re an idiot [emoji2361]

Lol! A compelling argument, on par with the mentality illustrated in your profile pic. I'm sure your profound rhetoric sways many at the prolific social gatherings you certainly frequent. A regular Socrates reborn.