Horimono
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Apology accepted. No worries. With all the craziness and controversy here, it’s understandable to be skeptical.
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Apology accepted. No worries. With all the craziness and controversy here, it’s understandable to be skeptical.
Horimono
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Unopened vial of EQ. Opened vial of EQ with 1cc missing. Sterile unopened syringe. Sterile vial. Crumpled paper with date and Meso and some dipshit written on it. Still doesn’t PROVE anything right? But I suppose it’s better than nothing @Cityofgrit
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So, can I ask why you are posting it and not your friend?
Horimono
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Furthermore, I don’t know who is stupid enough to use a dirty syringe when sending a sample for analysis. Not me. Or my friend. Dudes gear is contaminated and under dosed. Period.
There is another thread where is gear was spot on so.....amd why are you posting your friends samples? Why is he not posting then himself?
Horimono
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He isn’t a member of Meso. I just asked him to take those photos and send them. I told him to crumple the paper with the writing. Just because Simbi had legit and sterile gear in the past doesn’t mean he didn’t get lazy and not clean out his lines throughly, right? Or any number of other reasons a lab cross contaminates samples. Who knows dude.
As far as I remember it was all his first batch. You're right though Pristine had some cross contamination at one point and so did TGI a while back.
mp46
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Since when did we start believing sources over members?
And for all the shit I give Jano it’s over his procedures for not fucking up a test. Fucking up a test of a compound won’t give you two compounds, maybe the dosing is wrong or completely misidentified but you’re not looking at the peaks in a graph and pulling two different compounds out of thin air.
If Jano fucked the testing it wasn’t finding two compounds. It would have been with the dosing and it would have linear across the two of them.
And for all the shit I give Jano it’s over his procedures for not fucking up a test. Fucking up a test of a compound won’t give you two compounds, maybe the dosing is wrong or completely misidentified but you’re not looking at the peaks in a graph and pulling two different compounds out of thin air.
If Jano fucked the testing it wasn’t finding two compounds. It would have been with the dosing and it would have linear across the two of them.
Again, I have no idea where the compounds came from, how they were sent, what procedure was used for sending. And ever since all this drama has gone on, I honestly trust none of this shit. Some of his other compounds tested out fine. If there was cross contamination, he fucked up as did Pristine and TGI in their early days. But Sybiotics is gone so...this would be categorized as irrelevant. And Jano is a fucking con man. Period. His testing means shit to me.
When did we blindly trust anyone? Source or not. To be honest, I would be fine with zero sources in the underground.
mp46
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We don’t blindly trust anyone but we should be putting more faith in a member who’s been upstanding in the past vs a source who’s already had possible LE involvement and openly admitted to being hacked. And really? fell off a ladder and can’t post because he’s on meds? Plenty of people live full lives, let alone answer emails or get on the internet when taking pain meds.
And Jano has a shitty reputation around here anyway, I doubt he wants to burn it completely down by getting in bed with and taking bribes from TGI, so the only option in the conspiracy is the tester is on the shill army payroll. Look at dudes posting history and find evidence he’s in bed with TGI or has motive undermine Sym in any other way.
And Jano has a shitty reputation around here anyway, I doubt he wants to burn it completely down by getting in bed with and taking bribes from TGI, so the only option in the conspiracy is the tester is on the shill army payroll. Look at dudes posting history and find evidence he’s in bed with TGI or has motive undermine Sym in any other way.
Taking bribes from TGI, who the fuck said that? No one said TGI undermined Sym. Where the fuck did you pull this conspiracy shit from? Fuck Jano. I don't care one way or other.
mp46
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I never said anyone claimed anything. I’m simply addressing all the possible avenues before someone brings it up. People do this all the time, it has names like brainstorming, forward thinking, surmising, extrapolating, devils advocate, etc.
If We’re questioning Janos results being compromised and it wasn’t the sender, how else do you suppose the sample was compromised? It was either sym, sender, or Jano. And I’ve addressed all three scenarios, whether you extrapolate that I’m creating a conspiracy is all on you.
Seriously, give yourself a rest. There's many ways the sample could have been contaminated. But you come off as condescending as fuck. And no one brought up your shitty TGI conspiracy but you. Own it.
mp46
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It’s not a conspiracy it’s addressing avenues of thought, I never passed it off as fact or even probable. It’s funny to claim I’m creating conspiracies of TGI/Jano but when I mentioned the sender or source avenues of contamination you don’t accuse me creating conspiracies about them, you simply glossed over them and jumped on your drama llama.
And if the sample wasn’t contaminated by source, sender or tester then what are the “many ways the sample could have been contaminated.”
We know it wasn't contaminated by the sender? Inadvertantly? The source made a mistake? Like both Pristine and TGI have?
mp46
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Well if it was contaminated by sender or source I covered that, as well as tester. What other many ways can it be contaminated; postal service, customs, what?
My point was I talked about 3 places for contamination and you only accuse me of conspiracy with one, ignoring the other two.
My point was I talked about 3 places for contamination and you only accuse me of conspiracy with one, ignoring the other two.
Horimono
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It wasn’t the sender. I can tell you that. Dude has a 100 box of syringes. I gave him a sterile blood collection tube from a fucking hospital. It was a brand new unopened bottle of EQ. I know you guys are gonna believe what you want, but you can cross sender of the list.
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Savagesteve
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if sym was already compromised, why the fuck would someone waste their time coming in here blasting his shitty gear? Jano gains nothing by fucking the results up either even though he’s had issues in the past. This isn’t the first time other compounds have been found as previously one source admitted to filtering multiple compounds with the same filter which is lazy and fucked up.
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