Standford's Primo 200 mg/ml - Analysis Preformed Performed by Analiza Białek, Chromate & Jano

[readalot]

Oxidation and light. These are natural products w variance. It not so technical.

Damn, you’re a verbose one, no?

You ascribe all the color bodies to the oil? You do you.

Amazing technical contribution. Thanks.

Edit: I see you wised up in next post and considered color bodies in the raw. Common sure. What is your point? You are confirming everything I said.

Great. Thanks for confirmation. Common and hard to predict.

 

[Cromagg]

You ascribe all the color bodies to the oil? You do you.

Amazing technical contribution. Thanks.

Edit: I see you wised up in next post and considered color bodies in the raw. Common sure. What is your point? You are confirming everything I said.

Great. Thanks for confirmation. Common and hard to predict.

I’m not trying yo prove you wrong.
Perhaps I should have chosen different verbaige.
But you’re exhausting.

You would get a lot better results with your “cause” if you didn't harass people.
You wonder “I want to do a good thing, why are people not responding well”.
Clue. It’s largely your approach.
Perhaps try a different one.

I don’t believe you want to, or will. I don’t believe you want testing done. I believe you want to harass and hear yourself talk. Or to tell people that you “readalot”.

I bet you have bumper stickers on your car.

 

[readalot]

I’m not trying yo prove you wrong.
Perhaps I should have chosen different verbaige.

Thanks.

I'll leave it there in the interest of finding common ground.

Take care.

 

[Cromagg]

I respect that. Thanks.
I’ll be more careful about how I speak. I could’ve done better. We’re all human.

Take care.

 

[readalot]

I respect that. Thanks.
I’ll be more careful about how I speak. I could’ve done better. We’re all human.

Take care.

Thank you. I could have done better as well. Easy to get sideways online as I have found, especially running too much AAS. I am lowering dose soon

Have a nice day/evening.

 

[Lil_swole87]

That would be your thicker, darker carriers like gso or cso. Clear carriers such as mct or eo could come out as clear as test e if your tren powders are light in color and made with low temps.

Brew tren ace though to get completely clear up is it ok to take to mp92c/96c for 5/10 minutes or is it best to keep it in that 120/140 degree zone for a long time to get it all to clear up like 30/40 mins zone or will this degrade it or is taking it to the mp degrading it more I figured you probably done it both ways and have Alot of testing done

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Brew tren ace though to get completely clear up is it ok to take to mp92c/96c for 5/10 minutes or is it best to keep it in that 120/140 degree zone for a long time to get it all to clear up like 30/40 mins zone or will this degrade it or is taking it to the mp degrading it more I figured you probably done it both ways and have Alot of testing done

You know, I've never checked temps, tbh. The way I gauge how warm to get it is I pick up and hold the beaker. I only get it warm enough to hold in my bare hands comfortably. If I had to guess I'd say it gets to mid to low 100's Fahrenheit. But, if I had to guess I'd say you wouldn't really see any degradation or damage below 250f. With tren that will definitely be enough to alter the color, but I doubt there would be any damage. That being said, I don't think anywhere close to 200f would be necessary.

 

[Fullchamber]

Kinda odd you have to tell a testing company their results were completely wrong and they need to redo it. I wonder if they’ve done that with other samples.

Regardless thanks for doing this brotha! Would be interesting to see more of these comparisons in the future.

This should tell you that they were not confident in what they were doing. Lol

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

This should tell you that they were not confident in what they were doing. Lol

more like overly confident

 

[Fullchamber]

more like overly confident

They redid the test upon his request so that tells me they were not confident enough about their testing method. If they knew they were doing the right thing they would have tried to defend themselves first.

 

[BigTomJ]

My take is that Chromate has real problems, either with equipment or protocol, or both. Those are wildly different results. I would also like to see test equipment details like Analiza displays.

Analiza did not do the retest. She likely just fixed the typo then transmitted the “new“ report. Only my opinion but….
Again, wildly different results.

HPLC, in my limited experience, is not that crazy in variables.

Jano’s report looks legit.
I sent him some samples a few years ago. Simultaneously I ran these samples on a Agilent 1100 which I was purchasing. They came back within a milligram of his reports. I have stated this on another forum in the past and was accused of gargling Jano’s nuts. The Jano hate is strong there, unfortunately.
The purchase of that system failed so to speak due to COVID and the inability to drive to the USA to pick it up. But I am again in the market for one because this testing shit is out of hand.
If I am sending stuff off, it’s going to Jano.

NO brewer is using nearly 50% more primo raws to make their product. I would expect a 10%+/- in milligrams, but nothing more.

Hats off to Stanford if they are getting that accurate!

What reference standard did you use?

 

[LionMuscle]

Sembra essere una tendenza che Analiza è costantemente fuori strada rispetto ad altri laboratori.

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Analiza Bialek Analytical Laboratory

Well, same... I sent 2 samples, they confirmed that they have received the samples 9 days ago. Since then it's been very quiet. I sent them another email a couple days ago but they did not reply. Not sure what to expect now. I hope you guys didn’t use your real adress in case they were busted...

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Ho fatto analizzare ad Analiza oltre 20 prodotti Driada e tutti quelli che erano stati testati anche da Jano hanno riportato valori comparabili.

 

[Joesmoke1]

Official results for @Stanfordpharma1 primo

Analiza Białek - 171 mg/ml

Chromate - 263 mg/ml

Jano - 201 mg/ml



I initially sent a sample to AnaLiza Białek (unable to tag them). While waiting on my results a new U.S based testing option became available ( @Chromate ) and I decided I would send him a sample from the same vial I was already having tested. My goal was to promote and open some doors for some new testing options. Unfortunately in my case it backfired.

I received Chromate’s report first. It showed a shocking result of Methenolone enanthate 287 mg/ml. I publicly expressed my concerns for my results without revealing specific details so my sample would remain blind to Analiza’s eyes. I believe I said, “Chromate’s equipment needs calibrated”. Well, I received another report from Chromate showing my sample results to now show Methenolone enanthate 263 mg/ml


I then received Analiza’s results on the same sample. Their report showed my sample to be Testosterone Enanthate 171 mg/ml. I informed them that I would like a retest as I had sent the same sample to another facility and that their reports were not even in the same ball park. Analiza agreed and sent me another report today which showed Methenolone Enanthate 171 mg/ml. They apologized for the mistake.

While having Chromate’s report of overdosed primo and Analiza’s first report of underdosed testosterone e I decided to send a 3rd sample from the same vial to @janoshik . Jano’s results are exactly what the label claimed the product to be Methenolone Enanthate 201 mg/ml


My thoughts...


Analiza - was very slow but they also received my sample right before Christmas so that could have greatly affected why they had my sample for several weeks before giving me my results. Communication was also slow but again, holidays. I had high hopes for them as a source on this forum sent them and Jano the same samples and other than hcg I believe everything else was nearly identical. Unfortunately they provided me with the wrong compound on my sample and even their retested sample shows the sample to be under dosed.

Chromate - he seems like a genuine good dude from our chats. I can tell it bothered him and got to him that I doubted his results. After he gave me a second result he also provided the raw data and explained to me why he believed his report to be spot on. I hope this thread doesn’t discourage him from pursuing this venture. Yes, his sample seems a little far fetched as it’s hard to believe a source would make such an expensive mistake as to greatly overdose primo but I believe he could do some calibrating and hit his mark in the future. Communication was top notch and I received my report the same day he received it.

Jano - within minutes of emailing him I had a response. The same day he received my sample I had a report. Not much needs said as he’s well established and I trust his report.


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Wow, you did your due diligence. Andiamo!

 

[Joesmoke1]

I try and be as ethical and professional as possible and will only say I would certainly like to offer to pay for these testing results. @B Ware never accepts, but the offer is always there. What I can do is maybe send products in and pay for testing for some sort of experiment that the community would like to see. Or if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears.

Stand up business right here. Thank you Stanford.