It’s from the pharmacy it’s not to do with the water I got the redness welt on the same day I added the water. I know bac water is better practise but when I finish the vial as fast as I do sterile water is sufficient
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ItsDaBoii
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Try to inject it IM maybe that helps
Klimmzugernie
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@godt240 do you ship to Germany? Is it coming directly from china? So this would be the only reason not to order because authorities are crazy in the last month regarding customs.
I have read that I can rent a temporary destination spot in france where it will be relabeled and forwarded Timmy German adress. Do you have experiences if my German adress is still hidden if seizure or authority tracking happens? In other wird’s do you know my adress is safe if authorities ask the French temporary adress?
Do you plan an European warehouse as pharmacom did?
I have read that I can rent a temporary destination spot in france where it will be relabeled and forwarded Timmy German adress. Do you have experiences if my German adress is still hidden if seizure or authority tracking happens? In other wird’s do you know my adress is safe if authorities ask the French temporary adress?
Do you plan an European warehouse as pharmacom did?
gearwolf
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I'm german and just a couple days ago my promo order arrived after 13 days directly from China - the tracking info is mostly useless but all that matters is stuff arriving. Agreed on our customs being harsh lately, lost 2 packages out of Asia in recent months so I'm undecided about reordering GH, and those temp destinations in UK etc. protect against seizure letters at least but not loss of items
godt240
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i use reship company in france before, no problem with french customs, but the reship company could find this stuff sometimes and refuse to reship, its the problem.
i ship to germany directly with my special ship method, so far, no seized, and i guarantee reship
Klimmzugernie
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That means i just can order through you and do not need to take care of any second party?
godt240
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yes, just make an order with your address in germany,i guarantee reship
thx
thx
Klimmzugernie
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Thank you very much for your kind Feedback
TNotch347
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Keep us posted, how long was the travel to get it to ya? Wondering if that took its toll during transit,
It was about 7 days and in Uk so no heat from this side haha. Am actually lying in bed right now wondering where am gonna do my shot when I wake up for my pee think am gonna need to go in my ass haha. It’s sore going in next to any of the red welts . Am worried about why it’s happening used GH before without a problem and still got BNG GH there and done one on my shoulder yesterday morning and nothing. The only thing I can think is impurity’s? Or e-coli in it hasn’t been fully removed from filtering process ? Am sure I read a post from dr Jim one time saying something about e-coli in HGH is what causes welts.
Will try IM in my shoulders and see how that goes will do it when I wake up for a pee
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Joe Zanni
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T&H
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IM should cause zero welts, however you shouldn't have to do this. You should be able to go subq without welts.
godt240
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u can check the purity on the lab analysis , 97.4% is europe pharma standard. so there is nothing to do with the purity. and since one year, we have many clients here, few red welt reported.
red welt happens randomly to few people, even with pharma gh, less than 2%, its normally.
i just pharma gh JINTROPIN. it's warming: few people could get red welt
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Done some digging cause these are bothering me and causing discomfort and I don’t really have anywhere left to go found these posted by DR Jim and chestrockwell both well respected members here that are making me think this stuff needs tossed.
And why don't these "reactions" occur with AAS?
GH is a recombinant PROTEIN product, secreted by E-Coli.
During the manufacturing process E-coli are also repoducing and MANY DIE.
I suspect it's the dead E--coli peptide fragments that are the cause of these reactions.
Bc these GMP facilities
are NOT
filtering the end product according to U.S. Pharma standards. Ya get what you pay for guys.
I'm astonished some continue to believe otherwise.
In fairness it's also important to note
IME cutaneous reactions of this sort seem to be MUCH more common in CHEAPER, buy by the ton,
Jim
Tolerance or "anergy" can occur with foreign proteins but more severe reactions such as Stevens Johnson Syndrome and esp ANAPHYLAXIS remain a concern IMO.
To that end, in general, the more abrupt the onset of cutaneous findings the more worrisome and severe the reaction.
The same also applies to the development of a SYSTEMIC reaction rather than one localized to the SITE of injection.
For instance the development of a rash DURING the infusion of biological agents warrants prompt discontinuation of said therapy.
The point ---- an "allergic" response to any med must be taken seriously and the benefits of therapy weighed against the inherent risks.
Personally I don't and can't use GH, but based on what I've SEEN in folk running Godtropin and their LC/MS reports
there's no way I'd run it or any other GGH that has multiple reports of cutaneous reactions.
Jim
Bc the rHGH manufactured and secreted by E-coil is less then perfect a certain degree of "incomplete" proteins, PEPs and peptides are also produced.
These incomplete proteins is most likely responsible for the "welts" some experience when running GGH.
And bc of the possibility of "allergic reactions" Pharma uses a variety of processes such as ultrafiltration to electrophoresis to greatly minimize the risks of "foreign protein exposure" on behalf of patients.
Jim
“Try shooting IM and make sure ur using bac water that is not expired”
Someone's body is showing clear signs of agitation and we would therefore recommend they take it up a notch by going intramuscular?
Chestrockwell
Actually even though it may have the same labeling, distributor and source, absent analytical testing there's no way to KNOW if the GGH you're using is identical to that which a friend is running.
It's also important to understand how differing levels of immunity may impact the development of what appears to be an "allergic" reaction and/or phenomena.
And with respect to your question about what to do?
I can only tell you what is likely the medical standard IF such a reaction was observed with a Pharma HGH product, it would be returned to the manufacturer, and the patient would be issued a full credit or refund.
JIM
And why don't these "reactions" occur with AAS?
GH is a recombinant PROTEIN product, secreted by E-Coli.
During the manufacturing process E-coli are also repoducing and MANY DIE.
I suspect it's the dead E--coli peptide fragments that are the cause of these reactions.
Bc these GMP facilities
are NOTfiltering the end product according to U.S. Pharma standards. Ya get what you pay for guys.
I'm astonished some continue to believe otherwise.
In fairness it's also important to note
IME cutaneous reactions of this sort seem to be MUCH more common in CHEAPER, buy by the ton,
Jim
Tolerance or "anergy" can occur with foreign proteins but more severe reactions such as Stevens Johnson Syndrome and esp ANAPHYLAXIS remain a concern IMO.
To that end, in general, the more abrupt the onset of cutaneous findings the more worrisome and severe the reaction.
The same also applies to the development of a SYSTEMIC reaction rather than one localized to the SITE of injection.
For instance the development of a rash DURING the infusion of biological agents warrants prompt discontinuation of said therapy.
The point ---- an "allergic" response to any med must be taken seriously and the benefits of therapy weighed against the inherent risks.
Personally I don't and can't use GH, but based on what I've SEEN in folk running Godtropin and their LC/MS reports
there's no way I'd run it or any other GGH that has multiple reports of cutaneous reactions.
Jim
Bc the rHGH manufactured and secreted by E-coil is less then perfect a certain degree of "incomplete" proteins, PEPs and peptides are also produced.
These incomplete proteins is most likely responsible for the "welts" some experience when running GGH.
And bc of the possibility of "allergic reactions" Pharma uses a variety of processes such as ultrafiltration to electrophoresis to greatly minimize the risks of "foreign protein exposure" on behalf of patients.
Jim
“Try shooting IM and make sure ur using bac water that is not expired”
Someone's body is showing clear signs of agitation and we would therefore recommend they take it up a notch by going intramuscular?
Chestrockwell
Actually even though it may have the same labeling, distributor and source, absent analytical testing there's no way to KNOW if the GGH you're using is identical to that which a friend is running.
It's also important to understand how differing levels of immunity may impact the development of what appears to be an "allergic" reaction and/or phenomena.
And with respect to your question about what to do?
I can only tell you what is likely the medical standard IF such a reaction was observed with a Pharma HGH product, it would be returned to the manufacturer, and the patient would be issued a full credit or refund.
JIM
gearwolf
Member
should always ask those red welts people how much bac water they reconstitute with - me & friends are using the 2.4ml you suggested and no welts here.
when do you recommend should I get bloodwork for STH & IGF-1? both total duration of use & time after last injection
when do you recommend should I get bloodwork for STH & IGF-1? both total duration of use & time after last injection
Girlfriend woke up today and has a small red welt on her first jag spot now to not as big as mine but still there and tendor to touch. That vial was from another kit . Though on this one then and from reading my last post @godt240 . Also a tiny bit of the GH came out on to stopper when I pulled the needle out and the next day it went al white and crusty is GH suppose to do this I know AAS doesn’t do that but totally different hormones.
LeoTC
Member
It's a reconstituted powder, when the water evaps the powder remains.
But yeah, my thought was mentioned above. If e-coli causes the welts, not sure why putting it into deeper tissue seems like a good idea.
Joe Zanni
Member
Dude stop taking it!! What did I tell you
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