Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[muscletrain]

It’s made in Chiiiiiiiina and shipped over in semi-finished bulk for him to filter and bottle.

I literally see zero reason for him not to do this. If he sticks with the "my Rep speaks for itself" and refuses to post photos thats a defcon 1 red flag. Oh so you're Rep is so good that Fuck everyone else that had to drag their balls thru glass and do crumpled paper photos of everything amirite?

I mean your Rep is killer man so let's hear the knowledge bomb and show us the setup that has let you maintain a good rep. Not hard at all really. Make us eat our words and apologize for the misunderstanding.

I'm just gonna add this to every post of mine so your lab runs filtered and operates at negative pressure?

 

[Brawny]

I think never having an infection nor a floater in all these years speaks for it's self. I'm no where close to products, lab or equipment and don't plan on being down there for a while. I'm already pretty well past any vetting being I'm a pretty well established source. I'm not even answering questions because I'm afraid I'll lose any customers. I'm going private for that. I'm here moreso on a personal level. Hate me if you want, but I'm not driving down there to take a couple pics.

As an established source who has had years to improve his setup, you should pass this test with flying colors. Yet you skirt the issue and haven’t provided any sort of proof of good business practice.

At one time, you seemed to be a respected source in the community. Vetting never truly stops and a source is only as good as their last batch. So why the pushback to do something so trivial?

You were asked for pictures of your setup and you can’t even provide that. I suppose that’s why there have been people waiting on packs for more than a month at one time.

I guess it’s a good thing they weren’t needing an AI huh?

 

[little]

And more importantly, it holds water

Agree, and with that, I will recommend some lasix and unfollow this thread

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Agree, and with that, I will recommend some lasix and unfollow this thread

I would also hope little buddy rapier gets some investigative eyes too.

 

[little]

I would also hope little buddy rapier gets some investigative eyes too.

Yeah I’m not convinced he just did this bored and for the good of meso

 

[Rapier]

Now on the ordering semi finished product and the question of do i synthesize my own product. This happened once. I placed an order and some of the stuff came in semi finished.

Worded funny for an error on Pandas part. You have been seen shilling for panda as well. Why would he not lie for you if asked?

I posted in panda's thread as xkawn because i had a delay issue and i didn't feel like it would be best if i use SP handle as to not promote another source. I

Sometimes you aren't using xkawn to shill, but instead discredit other sources.

but there were times i felt i needed to use xkawn. Here is one example. I needed some raws fast

Just posting away as a member...shit talking sources....but wait...speaking of brewing experience....your debut was less than a year after asking what you needed for bottle top filtration and asking how to sterilize stoppers.




So...now that you have been making all that money for so long your lab should be top notch. I expect to see you post a high end autoclave and a great filtration system. Since you know...you are SO experienced.

 

[Test_Subject]

Yeah I’m not convinced he just did this bored and for the good of meso

Not a chance. I guarantee that he has some affiliation or ulterior motive at play.

That said, information is information.

 

[muscletrain]

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Worded funny for an error on Pandas part. You have been seen shilling for panda as well. Why would he not lie for you if asked?




Sometimes you aren't using xkawn to shill, but instead discredit other sources.
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Just posting away as a member...shit talking sources....but wait...speaking of brewing experience....your debut was less than a year after asking what you needed for bottle top filtration and asking how to sterilize stoppers.

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So...now that you have been making all that money for so long your lab should be top notch. I expect to see you post a high end autoclave and a great filtration system. Since you know...you are SO experienced.

Welp that doesn't look good Stan, you better have a sweet setup with comments like that but with posts like that so recent I doubt it. At best you're a hypocrite for shitting on other people for running a lab with so little experience. Is that not you asking for advice on babies first bottle top filter?

 

[Sp2.0]

How about explaining how you make your caps?

@StanfordPharma there's a question worthy of an answer especially since somewhere in @Rapier initial posts it came into question.

 

[Rapier]

Welp that doesn't look good Stan, you better have a sweet setup with comments like that but with posts like that so recent I doubt it. At best you're a hypocrite for shitting on other people for running a lab with so little experience. Is that not you asking for advice on babies first bottle top filter?

Let's talk about his lies, inconsistencies, and experience.

I have 4 posts that say he started brewing x amount of time ago. If you look at the dates, he claims to have started in 2001, 2002, 2006, and 2007.

I can do this all day long.

Bottom line. Dude is a liar. And a fraud. He and the OG crew have a nice little setup going. It isn't going to stop. He could post Big Bears setup and still have customers. You cannot stop an OG source on a forum run by the OG squad.

I just want everyone to know this is allowed here and supported by the WKMs. Meso has fallen in my eyes after leaning this. And the OGs "white knighting for your personal safety" are the culprits.

 

[muscletrain]

Let's talk about his lies, inconsistencies, and experience.

I have 4 posts that say he started brewing x amount of time ago. If you look at the dates, he claims to have started in 2001, 2002, 2006, and 2007.

I can do this all day long.

Bottom line. Dude is a liar. And a fraud. He and the OG crew have a nice little setup going. It isn't going to stop. He could post Big Bears setup and still have customers. You cannot stop an OG source on a forum run by the OG squad.

I just want everyone to know this is allowed here and supported by the WKMs. Meso has fallen in my eyes after leaning this. And the OGs "white knighting for your personal safety" are the culprits.

I mean I have no idea on the whole OG stuff or what the "setup they have going on" like care to elaborate? Are they getting a piece of the pie. I'm just speaking on what I see, besides Stanford I don't recall any other sources getting special treatment by a secret OG squad.

But I really wanna see this lab that Stanford has I mean with either 19, 18, or 14 years experience that bad boy could probably get ISO certified. Or it's just a garage with tinfoil everywhere.

 

[Rapier]

@StanfordPharma there's a question worthy of an answer especially since somewhere in @Rapier initial posts it came into question.

Here is how he makes his caps. Filler minus active. Mix and cap. Here is the proof.

 

[Rapier]

I mean I have no idea on the whole OG stuff or what the "setup they have going on" like care to elaborate? Are they getting a piece of the pie. I'm just speaking on what I see, besides Stanford I don't recall any other sources getting special treatment by a secret OG squad.

But I really wanna see this lab that Stanford has I mean with either 19, 18, or 14 years experience that bad boy could probably get ISO certified. Or it's just a garage with tinfoil everywhere.

I don't pretend to know what those fucks do with the money. I am just referring to the guys that shilled him before his debut, and upon his debut, and those that "vetted" him behind the scenes. The OGs I have previously named.

 

[Sp2.0]

Here is how he makes his caps. Filler minus active. Mix and cap. Here is the proof.

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@MightyMouse @BigBaldBeardGuy

Is that a proper way to cap? I only tag you guys because I've read your posts on it and you both have a better understanding then I do.

 

[Rapier]

@MightyMouse @BigBaldBeardGuy

Is that a proper way to cap? I only tag you guys because I've read your posts on it and you both have a better understanding then I do.

I haven't capped yet (soon) but I have looked at MM posts about it. It involves much more math than what SPawn is using.

 

[Sp2.0]

I haven't capped yet (soon) but I have looked at MM posts about it. It involves much more math than what SPawn is using.

I was just wondering if the simplified method he's using would be consistent. The posts I've read from @MightyMouse had me drooling on myself and smoke coming out of my ears. Lol

 

[mands]

Let's talk about his lies, inconsistencies, and experience.

I have 4 posts that say he started brewing x amount of time ago. If you look at the dates, he claims to have started in 2001, 2002, 2006, and 2007.

I can do this all day long.

Bottom line. Dude is a liar. And a fraud. He and the OG crew have a nice little setup going. It isn't going to stop. He could post Big Bears setup and still have customers. You cannot stop an OG source on a forum run by the OG squad.

I just want everyone to know this is allowed here and supported by the WKMs. Meso has fallen in my eyes after leaning this. And the OGs "white knighting for your personal safety" are the culprits.

I have a serious question to ask you. As you know why I attacked you and came into this thread and that's the only reason. Do you really think some OG squad is running this bored?

I mentioned this once earlier. As far as I know there hasn't been any private vetting in PM's ever except in this case. My only involvement(and you can go back and look at his original post in the underground)back then was asking him if he was member here under another handle.

Then Cobra asked him to answer my question. In the meantime. Stan PM'd me and we had a conversation. I told him my concerns about him being a member and now a source and having two handles.

I also discussed a few other things. I then messaged him and said okay XkanN, mands is all knowing.

He then replied telling me I was correct. So, I established this back in Oct. of 2017. and the WKM's you are referring to(I believe there is only one around now)I spoke, said they had viewed his operation and even knew him personally.

I left it at that and didn't visit his thread again and took their word as did every other member that became a customer.

Just wanted to clear the air on this. I don't think this has happened since. But, I can't be 100% certain. I haven't seen any sources that weren't established on other boards come in here and not be "vetted".

Take it for what it's worth. I just don't believe there is some "OG" mishaps going on here at MESO. It's a good board with a lot of knowledgeable people.

mands

 

[Rapier]

I was just wondering if the simplified method he's using would be consistent. The posts I've read from @MightyMouse had me drooling on myself and smoke coming out of my ears. Lol

According to MM and BIG, the answer is no. I have no proof as I am not experienced but they are I am sure and that is what they fact check sources for. The good? Posting the method allows me to copy it and use it at home. The bad? SPawn or another new source can copy/paste it and say they use the method when really they are just using the simple method.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

Let's talk about his lies, inconsistencies, and experience.

I have 4 posts that say he started brewing x amount of time ago. If you look at the dates, he claims to have started in 2001, 2002, 2006, and 2007.

I can do this all day long.

Bottom line. Dude is a liar. And a fraud. He and the OG crew have a nice little setup going. It isn't going to stop. He could post Big Bears setup and still have customers. You cannot stop an OG source on a forum run by the OG squad.

I just want everyone to know this is allowed here and supported by the WKMs. Meso has fallen in my eyes after leaning this. And the OGs "white knighting for your personal safety" are the culprits.

I see you have an extreme vested interest in this matter. I understand hiding behind an alt in fear of retaliation. Makes sense. Did Stan burn you or just severely delay your last pack with him? Sym apparently burned you too, correct? I'm just curious on the end game here? Harm reduction or?
Also, @StanfordPharma with all that's being said here, I assume you're confident that nothing can be tied to you directly? All the pics you posted on xkawn are safe? Must be if you feel confident going forward. Personally, I would make like a primo god and bounce...but that's just me.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

@MightyMouse @BigBaldBeardGuy

Is that a proper way to cap? I only tag you guys because I've read your posts on it and you both have a better understanding then I do.

No. @MightyMouse has brought up the molecular weight being different for different compounds. So this “simple” method does not produce accurate doses.

I don’t ever remember seeing a labtest for any of his caps. If those exist and he was accurate than maybe he does know what he’s doing.