Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[Rapier]

I have a serious question to ask you. As you know why I attacked you and came into this thread and that's the only reason. Do you really think some OG squad is running this bored?

I mentioned this once earlier. As far as I know there hasn't been any private vetting in PM's ever except in this case. My only involvement(and you can go back and look at his original post in the underground)back then was asking him if he was member here under another handle.

Then Cobra asked him to answer my question. In the meantime. Stan PM'd me and we had a conversation. I told him my concerns about him being a member and now a source and having two handles.

I also discussed a few other things. I then messaged him and said okay XkanN, mands is all knowing.

He then replied telling me I was correct. So, I established this back in Oct. of 2017. and the WKM's you are referring to(I believe there is only one around now)I spoke, said they had seen his operation and even knew him personally.

I left it at that and didn't visit his thread again and took their word as did every other member that became a customer.

Just wanted to clear the air on this. I don't think this has happened since. But, I can't be 100% certain. I haven't seen any sources that weren't established on other boards come in here and not be "vetted".

Take it for what it's worth. I just don't believe there is some "OG" mishaps going on here at MESO. It's a good board with a lot of knowledgeable people.

mands

You posted and said basically, you and the OGs vetted this clown. In private. So he got special treatment. Why? He was shilled before his debut, and even posted how bloods of private sources should be posted even if they are not on the board because 'somebody might be using them'. Translation : I am going to debut as a private source and have my shill in place to lab max and post bloods so that should be allowed so I will start here with credibility. You and the other OG squad knowingly watch all this happen on your "good board".

Knowledge members? Yes. Good? Nice try.

I like the curtain up, even though the view is shitty. Now at least we know why he has never been hounded for anything and allowed to get away with so much. His buddies have his back and they are all "wkm". You are all as corrupt as he is. So stop the act and just admit you're all caught and move on. He will have a small slump in sales and in 2 weeks all the new kids will pile in as this will be buried. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Mdrock98]

I want to ask. What is your angle here?

 

[Rapier]

I want to ask. What is your angle here?

Honestly, xkawn is a trump supporter and I am very east coast liberal. I have politicians in my family and am mad about his political views.

 

[Rapier]

I want to ask. What is your angle here?

I am going to start a private lab for UGL stuff and you and a couple other will get some free shit and post bloods and lab max results. Then I will come in here and be checked via PM and email but you will all sing my praises so nobody knows I use mom's oven for sterilizing stuff I learned how to do that last year. Then I can rake in the coins. Sound cool to you?

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I want to ask. What is your angle here?

He’s not gonna tell you no matter how tough we get. Mindless already tried.

Regardless of his angle, nobody is THAT dense not to take away a few things. Here I’ll provide just a few examples in case there are some mouth-breathers in the mix of readers:

No pictures of lab

Doesn’t use the correct capping process

It was pretty shilly in his thread and may or may not still be shilly

 

[muscletrain]

I am going to start a private lab for UGL stuff and you and a couple other will get some free shit and post bloods and lab max results. Then I will come in here and be checked via PM and email but you will all sing my praises so nobody knows I use mom's oven for sterilizing stuff I learned how to do that last year. Then I can rake in the coins. Sound cool to you?

I agree with points you've brought up, I'd like to rephrase this why did you sit on this information for so long and only bring this bombshell down now? I mean a true altruistic person looking out for Meso would blast Stanford as soon as this info was known. Easy to harp against private OG guys handling stuff but I think people are asking "how long did you sit on this" by the whole "what's your angle". Not discounting the info it's just a two way street.

I had no idea how stanford got started but the fact that no one has even seen his setup and his capping method seems C-grade at best is pretty fucking glaring. Oh not to mention he completely side stepped the question to see his setup with "my reputation stands for itself" and the award for shittiest excuse "I'm not driving to the lab right now". Sorry stanford your reputation is in fact in question so maybe hop in the car...

Did any of these OG members get pictures of his setup? Why was he given the ok so easily?

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

No. @MightyMouse has brought up the molecular weight being different for different compounds. So this “simple” method does not produce accurate doses.

I don’t ever remember seeing a labtest for any of his caps. If those exist and he was accurate than maybe he does know what he’s doing.

Members have done labs on my caps and my 50mg caps were within a few milligrams. My method i got from a pharmaceutical write up. I don't care if a poster with an agenda says he doesn't think my method is bunk. It's a true pharmaceutical method.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Welp that doesn't look good Stan, you better have a sweet setup with comments like that but with posts like that so recent I doubt it. At best you're a hypocrite for shitting on other people for running a lab with so little experience. Is that not you asking for advice on babies first bottle top filter?

Wrong and wrong. I'm a panda shill, right? I didn't shit on a source with such little experience. What actually happened was i questioned panda's decision to hire a source with such little experience.

And with the semi finished, i bought product and assumed powder was going to be sent. Semi finished was sent instead. One time. I made it clear on my next order i wanted powder.

 

[Rapier]

Members have done labs on my caps and my 50mg caps were within a few milligrams. My method i got from a pharmaceutical write up. I don't care if a poster with an agenda says he doesn't think my method is bunk. It's a true pharmaceutical method.

Maybe your shitty "method" is the reason you cannot make an accurate dose at 1mg or below?


Also, that is another post on your member handle outside of your thread digging up info on other sources via a request to another member. Brother, you suck.

Can we get pics of you super fancy auto clave? How about the vacuum system you built that uses syringe filters? The one you brag about as a member. You know, the one made out of PVC pipe.

Come on, 2 decades of experience I know you won't let the community that supports you down. This is your chance to shine!

You shouldn't have lied and said I sent you a PM. This is going to get much worse for you before it gets any better.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Maybe your shitty "method" is the reason you cannot make an accurate dose at 1mg or below?

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Also, that is another post on your member handle outside of your thread digging up info on other sources via a request to another member. Brother, you suck.

Can we get pics of you super fancy auto clave? How about the vacuum system you built that uses syringe filters? The one you brag about as a member. You know, the one made out of PVC pipe.

Come on, 2 decades of experience I know you won't let the community that supports you down. This is your chance to shine!

You shouldn't have lied and said I sent you a PM. This is going to get much worse for you before it gets any better.

Never said you sent me a pm. I'm done with this. It's the same ole' circular conversation.

 

[Rapier]

Wrong and wrong. I'm a panda shill, right? I didn't shit on a source with such little experience. What actually happened was i questioned panda's decision to hire a source with such little experience.

And with the semi finished, i bought product and assumed powder was going to be sent. Semi finished was sent instead. One time. I made it clear on my next order i wanted powder.

Man....you never posted about that fuck up though. But you sure did post a lot of other things. That is so WEIRD! Right?!
I am surprised you didn't use you member handle and say "panda sent me the wrong shit" or as SP and say "selling some shit I didn't make".

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Never said you sent me a pm. I'm done with this. It's the same ole' circular conversation.

You realize this is the shit that should’ve happened during vetting, right?

 

[muscletrain]

Wrong and wrong. I'm a panda shill, right? I didn't shit on a source with such little experience. What actually happened was i questioned panda's decision to hire a source with such little experience.

And with the semi finished, i bought product and assumed powder was going to be sent. Semi finished was sent instead. One time. I made it clear on my next order i wanted powder.

1)Avoided my comment on the bottle top filter advice you were asking for
2)Won't post pictures of your lab setup
3)Avoid questions of lab setup with air filtration and negative pressure

Clearly you're handling all the important hard hitting questions in here. You cherry pick the ones you feel are a personal attack against you and avoid the most important ones, the technical questions about your actual setup.

It's a "circular conversation" because you avoid any of the proof/fact finding questions and only address the petty ones you feel are "personal". You can easily address this and fix it.

What makes you think you're above the steps all other sources have to go through? You haven't had any floaters etc as of yet so prove why you don't have those issues?

Red Flag Randy over here.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I hear these boys are fond of tits. Maybe try that next?

 

[TX_Hempknight]

Who gives a shit about rapiers reasoning? He spoonfed you people with inconsistencies in opsec, filtering, brewing, sterilization and bashing other sources and yall mad he outed one of the few, unreliable sources left here.

The fact he was secretly vetted and given the g2g by the og vets should alarm everyone on meso. No pics of set up, stock, tiddies or his brewing, filtering, capping protocol.

All sources should be held to the same standards and OPEN vetting.

Sp was on my short list to order from, and I appreciate @Rapier bringing these details to light so I can make a better, informed decision on where to get my next bath tub brew no matter his personal reasons.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

I hear these boys are fond of tits. Maybe try that next?

I also accept booty pics sir. I'm classy like that.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I also accept booty pics sir. I'm classy like that.

A man of culture and sophistication, i see.

 

[Brawny]

Let me see if I’ve gotten everything correct @StanfordPharma

You were never properly vetted, information was never disclosed about you in the past.

You’re avoiding questions and refusing to provide answers to questions from members.

From where I’m sitting it seems like you show up long enough to get some private customers where you know they won’t ask questions about how you handle things. Then you retreat back outside of public eye. Then when you need more customers/money you come forward long enough to repeat the process.

 

[Mdrock98]

He’s not gonna tell you no matter how tough we get. Mindless already tried.

Regardless of his angle, nobody is THAT dense not to take away a few things. Here I’ll provide just a few examples in case there are some mouth-breathers in the mix of readers:

No pictures of lab

Doesn’t use the correct capping process

It was pretty shilly in his thread and may or may not still be shilly

Got you. Thanks.

 

[muscletrain]

Let me see if I’ve gotten everything correct @StanfordPharma

You were never properly vetted, information was never disclosed about you in the past.

You’re avoiding questions and refusing to provide answers to questions from members.

From where I’m sitting it seems like you show up long enough to get some private customers where you know they won’t ask questions about how you handle things. Then you retreat back outside of public eye. Then when you need more customers/money you come forward long enough to repeat the process.

Not to mention he was pretty much on his death bed but dudes the energizer bunny and he's back and g2g now. dude's a clown and whoever let him bypass the vetting process should feel like a clown for letting that slip.