Steroids, Gynecomastia and Gyno Surgery

I had gyno surgery a few years back, I was an idiot at 19 to took some stuff that the "guy at the gym" recommended. It was the tren extreme stack. Worst idea ever

I used one of the best surgeons in the states. He specializes in the surgery. it was totally worth it but it was one hell of an experience I would never wish on anyone. Surgery cost me 8grand out of pocket!!. You get what u pay for though when it comes to plastic surgery!!!!
 
Give me a scalpel and some super glue and its free homie ;)
For real though ive only ever had flare ups until last cycle. Where I was using .25 adex eod, which was fine for 600mg test and 300mg tren. But I ramped the tren up to 700mg, and this was my first time running it btw. Nips got puffy so I upped the adex to .25 ed and nolva for a couple weeks at a time. Puffyness and sore nips went away but now im left with a painful pea sized lump in my left nip. I have ate the shit out of adex and nolva during my cruise and literally no diff other than the adex fucking up my sex drive. You cant see the lump but its definitely there and kinda hard right behind the nipple. I see gyno surgery in my future.
 
I had gyno surgery in February 2016. My gyno was pro hormone induced. When I was 21-23 I messed around with prohormones with no knowledge of serms or proper pct so of course I got hit hard with estrogen rebound. Continued to educate myself and have now been cycling safely since 2009. I've also tried the gyno reversal protocols but had no success with reducing the lumps but it did help with some puffiness over my nip. The gyno bothered me for years so I decided to finally get the surgery.. Cost was the only thing stopping me all this time but I made the leap.

Now 3 months post op I am not completely happy with the results. Did a double gland excision, tissue buildup removal, and lipo. My left side is perfect but my right side has some hard mass. The right side nipple excision went well but it feels like the surgeon either left behind some build up tissue on either side of the nipple or it is just scar tissue "hard scarring" the surgeon states. I have done some corticosteroid injections about two weeks ago but haven't seen much change. Surgeon wants me to be patient and wait the full 6 months (August) to allow for healing. I can't help but think he messed up but I think that's just me getting angry bc I'm impatient.
 
Why inspiring OP.

I have slightly puffy nips but no lumps or any sort, I've always wondered why it is considering they go down to a small size the minute I'm in the cold or working out or a breeze hits them. I dunno what to do about them, I'm personally self conscious about them, but most of the time their small and not noticeable... It's those hot days that they sometimes peak and get puffy
I have a similar prob when I'm on cycle, I get little knots under my nips, if it gets to noticeable I just up the dose on my armidex, but yeah when there hot that's when you notice them but when cold they look completely normal,,,, but the good thing is that when I get off cycle they always come back to normal. I guess some people the gyno really get kicks there ass.. But good luck to the people who are prone to gyno, bc it sucks when you buy that fresh t shirt and them nipples are like what's up
 
What's crazy have gyno in my left side so you can really tell something is off my girl is making fun of me lol but this shit is not funny day 4 after stopped dbol and amridex. And been taking novl for 5 days starting to feel less pain . Hope this shit subsides
 
Got one for you guys. Make sure your doc knows what he is doing had a buddy that got gyno on his first cycle decided to have surgery to remove it and the doc fkd up and now he is missing his left nipple. Lol luckily he is light shade black so you can barely see it but if you look good enough you can notice is compared to his other nip.
 
Not too sure if this is gyno or just fat. When I was young I was a skinny kid then as I got into my teens I got chubby and got man boobs. My nipples were literally indented as a teenager. After high school I started hitting the gym pretty hard. Alot of chest exercises to try and get rid of what I thought was just fat. The tissue is soft, no hard lumps or anything. At one point I was down to about 8 % BF and my chest still looked weird. Injured shoulder stopped working out for a while now back in the gym but put some weight back on. My question is this gyno that will require surgery to remedy or can I just work on my chest more? It seems like the left is worse than right
 

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Dude just keep hitting chest it will be fine.
Now we all have discrepancy I'm 40 so my chest gets a line or crease and some days my chest looks perfect.depends if I'm pumped or had lots of water.
I'm not saying you don't have gyno but I don't believe you need surgery

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Tiles Gynecomastia Journey.
Surprisingly enough my Gyno History extends much past my AAS History. I was always a wiery boy. Id have to say that in my opionion as a child, and a teen i was more ectomorph than anything, but my genetic is more of Mesomorph, and it shown as I hit adolescence. I started to fill in , my pecs gained definition and size, but as always my nipples were very small. I always had a V waist line, low BF%, and visable abs.
Somewhere around the age of 12 -13 I was put into residential treatment facilities for troubled teens. Around this time or shortly in the years to come, the facilities such as Califronia Youth Authority, and others, issued me alot of different medications, for depression, rage, violence, etc. Medications that i can recant, are : rispidal, depokote, buspar, wellbutrin, zoloft, zyprexa, seroquil, and ridilin/adarol . This is in the mid to late 1990s, and i have no clue on dosages, or combinations of medications being prescribed to me at that time. Lets say the switch happened at 15 years old. I was approximately 140 pounds, and within 3Months of a certain medication combo, i was lethargic, slower than normal, mentally, and physically, as if there was no more fight in me. I gained 120 pounds of pure fat. 260 Pounds . I remember vividly pounding the shit out of a few people while I had that weight behind my blows. Not to say I didn't wield a punch before , lol. All I can remember is when we discontinued the medications, the weight fell off as fast as it came . I was left with stretch marks on my inner biceps, and on my butt, and hip areas. No loose skin was to be found miraculously, But glandular tissue had developed under my aerolas. My nipples remained forever ''puffy'' .
It Mentally deflating. It could be seen through looser garmets like a cotton shirt . It ruins ones want to go to the local swimming pool, let alone date to some extent. It would be one thing to be born with something, you grow up accepting, but seeing a change in what you admired, to what becomes a mental tumor is a difficult thing. I felt alone, dont think I ever spoke with anyone regarding the matter. At this time the internet wasn't what it is now, you couldn't just Google an answer up or compare cliff notes. One thing I remember doing, this entire last 17 years of living with Gynecomastia, was pinching my nipples before posing, or taking my shirt off, or swimming, as it will give the immediate effect of a smaller original sized nipple for all of 5 minutes. For what ever reason the skin retracts or contracts irrgardless of whether there is glandular tissue behind it or not. I remember in 2012 reading for the first time a realself experience, or maybe it was BB.com idk, but someone else had done the turn your back, and pinch your nipples thing for years too!!!! I remember breathing a sigh of relief, it wasnt just me .
Im not here to quote the occurance of Gyno in males , puberty induced, or other. Im here to share my experience with mine. There is alot of mystery surrounding causes and whether a case of puffy nipples is indeed gynocomastia, or is it fat? Is it pseudo gynecomastia or real gynecomastia? All these things should be questioned. Is there glandular tissue, and extra fat beyond the perimeter of the areola that needs to be addressed as well? But from what Ive gathered , when there is a puffy nipple that was once not that way, it seemingly is the cause of a hard tissue gland behind it. It made my nipples look more dome shaped. I could squeeze behind them and feel hard material , the size of almonds. There seemed to be more than just one lump under each, it spread to the outside perimeter around the nipple.
In 2014 I was on AAS 8 months of the year. The difference was pretty non existent. Then I pushed up to 1g of Test Eth per week, and added DBOL into the equation for a short stint. Arimidex had worked for me previously, but I was making a switch to using Xstane, and at the time wasnt taking it frequently enough, or enough of a dosage to combat the estrogen that was being created . At that time I remember waking up heavier and heavier every day, and my nipples itched, and were as puffy as Ive ever witnessed. The nipple appeared swollen to the max, and at that point , I had my blood checked, and then re checked again to dial my AI dose in. Once that was figured out they returned to orginal puffy state . Did the lumps grow anymore? Im still not sure, and I dont really care. I had already decided at this point that I had spent 17 years thinking about this. If there was a small chance I could metally forget about this whole ordeal, than I would try. At this time I followed JBs thread on his Gyno tale. It made it real for me, hey a guy I know has this same shit, and he is doing something about it. Oh wow I thought, the thought of them cutting open my shit, and that nasty ass gland, i YouTube'd it, and lipo, and could barely watch. But JB is doing it, I haven't heard him mutter one word of fear or discontent . Fuck that I can do this i thought.
And that was that. I started calling around , researching , doing my OCD thing. I use the power of Google to search out just about anything. I read tons of articles on it, doctor testominials , different forum etc. They all indicated mostly the same thing. If your very low bf% , and its just puffy nipples, than its mostly just gland probably. Now let me state , If i were loaded, i would seek out the best names in the buisness. Would you have brain surgery in Bismark North Dakota, or At a Major hopspital in Seattle? I know which I would prefer. The rule stands here, that a major metropolitan are , is most likely going to have more specialized fields of interest, and therefore a superior plastic surgeon. However I didnt have the means. I found a board certified plastic surgeon 3 hours one way from me, that had a decent portfolio of boob jobs, and seemed to say he was well versed in gyno. He was also the county's on call OR surgeon for immediate emergency traumas at the Hospital relating to plastic surgery, so that made me feel slightly better. Either way finding info on health grades, and or independently researching him was a pain in the ass, and I got nowhere. I sent pictures of my condition in, and they quoted me @ 2,000.00 US for glandular excision under local anesthesia , with oral sedation, ie hydrocodone, and Valium.
We booked a date, and things were set. I prepared. Bought a few things id need like 20 Gatorades, and some easy meals around the house. Cleared my schedule. Got my friend to drive me to and from . For about 2 weeks prior I was very very nervous. Am I making the right decision? Hell most people cant even see it, so why should I care anymore. .. all these things. Then id catch myself looking in the mirror at these damn puffy fucking things!! fuck it whats the worst that could happen?? I was nervous about the local more than anything.
Day of surgery. Doc comes in , I'm sleep deprived ,nervous and could barely sleep the night before. He calms me down , draws some marks around my nipples takes pics, and gives me some pills. 30 minutes latter they bring me into another room. I'm walking and talking but def more tired than usual and slurred. I lay back they drape me up, so my face is looking right at a curtain. Its bright but i don't seem to care. The doctor gives me local through a serious of shots with a 30g syringe into my pecs , and to my relief I don't feel a thing. Hardly a sting of the needle. In fact I feel great. What a relief i think to myself, and I carry on slight conversation with the doc, and nurse as it proceeds. Its over as fast as it started, and my friend helps me into my truck . They wrapped each nip in gauze taped it up, and then ace bandage compressed it over me. The stitches were steri strips. I was to leave it alone for 48hrs, then remove and shower, and re gauze and compress. by 36 hrs i didn't need the gauze,and dropped to the compress. The process was virtually pain free. Id get a twinge here and there, and still 5 days post as I write this I'm not pushing it, but not in pain. I want to flex my chest but I refuse too lol .
The ace bandage compress is no good, its constantly slips down the nipples and actually does the opposite of its intension. I found it better to wear a compress UA shirt , then wrap over that if additional compress is needed. I found the best was actually a UA shirt ''compress ''cut , and one size to small to be the best. Right now Im still healing, and my biggest concern is the nipple returning to its original size. They are still bigger than they should be , i cant tell if its shrunk at all yet. There are two of those steri strip stitches on each nipple basically criss cross at a 45 degree angle, so I'm not sure if there making the top of my nipple kind of jut out, or if swelling just needs to go down, and for the nipple to get used to all the room it has now. Anyways I'm nervous and hopeful.
I hope this experience may help someone make an rational decision in dealing with their individual case. I will report back as I heal and supply pictures along the way. The first two pictures are the glands excised. The next is a natural pre op side shot, of the puffiness of the right nipple. The following is pre op when the nipple is pinched and contracts to smaller more normal size, more concurrent with what it used to be . The last pic is 48 hrs post op . Next pics will be at 2 weeks and 4 post . View attachment 21087View attachment 21088 View attachment 21089View attachment 21090View attachment 21091
Your youth is very similar to mine in regards to youth residential homes, medication and the like. I was part of the same experimental medication crap. I valued your post quite a bit. Thank you for sharing, albeit a year ago!
 
I noticed people say that it is not possible to get rid of glandular tissue through liposuction, but it is not true. I had a mild-moderate case of teenage gyno and after 19 I ended up working for a dermatologist / semi-plastic surgeon. I executed some projects in his office for very little $$$ and asked if he would get rid of my gyno instead of paying me more. He agreed, but he could do only liposuction because he was not familiar with the normal excision method. I had to follow him and explain to him over and over and over again that liposuction will get rid of fat, NOT glandular tissue. He proved me wrong! He did spend like 1 hour on each gland, breaking it down tiny bit by tiny bit with some buzzing cannula's, but in the end he got rid of about 85% of the gland, leaving only a little bit around the nipple.

It took almost 2 years for the swelling to subside completely, but in the end I got rid of that one imperfection I could not correct with bodybuilding. The whole office found out about it and kept looking at me strangely...
 
I had gyno surgery in February 2016. My gyno was pro hormone induced. When I was 21-23 I messed around with prohormones with no knowledge of serms or proper pct so of course I got hit hard with estrogen rebound. Continued to educate myself and have now been cycling safely since 2009. I've also tried the gyno reversal protocols but had no success with reducing the lumps but it did help with some puffiness over my nip. The gyno bothered me for years so I decided to finally get the surgery.. Cost was the only thing stopping me all this time but I made the leap.

Now 3 months post op I am not completely happy with the results. Did a double gland excision, tissue buildup removal, and lipo. My left side is perfect but my right side has some hard mass. The right side nipple excision went well but it feels like the surgeon either left behind some build up tissue on either side of the nipple or it is just scar tissue "hard scarring" the surgeon states. I have done some corticosteroid injections about two weeks ago but haven't seen much change. Surgeon wants me to be patient and wait the full 6 months (August) to allow for healing. I can't help but think he messed up but I think that's just me getting angry bc I'm impatient.
You have before and after pictures? what was the price for the surgery?
 
Not too sure if this is gyno or just fat. When I was young I was a skinny kid then as I got into my teens I got chubby and got man boobs. My nipples were literally indented as a teenager. After high school I started hitting the gym pretty hard. Alot of chest exercises to try and get rid of what I thought was just fat. The tissue is soft, no hard lumps or anything. At one point I was down to about 8 % BF and my chest still looked weird. Injured shoulder stopped working out for a while now back in the gym but put some weight back on. My question is this gyno that will require surgery to remedy or can I just work on my chest more? It seems like the left is worse than right
Doesn't look abnormal to me.

do you have any picture when you were at 8% bf? maybe that can let us know more. However it doesn't look like bitch tits so you're fine IMO
 
You have before and after pictures? what was the price for the surgery?
The surgeon has all my before and afters. Surgery went well glands removed, excess tissue removed, and lipo to fatty areas on the lateral sides of the pecs. Total cost was 6400 all in.
 
Not quite sure if what I have is gyno or fat. I did a cycle of sarms(yes I know it was stupid) a year ago and took clomid for 4 weeks @ 25mg ED. I didn't have any puffy nipples or anything like that and I bulked up to 180 pounds. After my bulk, my nipples got really puffy. I figured it was just from getting chunky. I'm now down to 165 and they are still puffy.

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There's that little line near both my nipples. I ended up doing some blood work as well and the results weren't that great

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What are you guys opinions? Do you think it's gyno?
 
Not quite sure if what I have is gyno or fat. I did a cycle of sarms(yes I know it was stupid) a year ago and took clomid for 4 weeks @ 25mg ED. I didn't have any puffy nipples or anything like that and I bulked up to 180 pounds. After my bulk, my nipples got really puffy. I figured it was just from getting chunky. I'm now down to 165 and they are still puffy.

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There's that little line near both my nipples. I ended up doing some blood work as well and the results weren't that great

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What are you guys opinions? Do you think it's gyno?
Not sur bro, but it could be. Even after the surgery, anabolic can make the gyno comeback.
 
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