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That's good, it's just when you reference something and you don't back it up with a source how does anyone else know it's not just more "bro-science" just because you say it's not. .

Jim is pretty damn knowledgeable,
when it comes, to these things.

He's explained things to me in PM, that had
me sitting there, in a trance ..

I thought I was a bad ass, when I
explained the Mitochondria to my sister...
Then I have Jim explain something as simple
as Protein to me, and I felt like I was just
learning my ABCs :drooling:
 
Jim is pretty damn knowledgeable,
when it comes, to these things.

He's explained things to me in PM, that had
me sitting there, in a trance ..

I thought I was a bad ass, when I
explained the Mitochondria to my sister...
Then I have Jim explain something as simple
ain to me, and I felt like I was learning my ABCs :drooling:



I agree. The man knows his biology.

Doesnt change the fact that Jim has also parroted bro science during the 12 months he has been posting here.

Everyone is capable of doing it, me, you, Jim...everyone. No one should be opposed to citing articles to insure the information is valid, and not supposition. IMHO.

Incidentally, I happen to agree with Jims commentary about 'ology. I've been a member therr for years, and I have 3-4 posts.
 
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The "bro science" I recently mentioned was recanted shortly thereafter (the next day, after 8 hours on Medline) eg Leydig cell "desensitization" because the evidence in humans either does NOT exist or is contrary to what has been published on "bro blogs" as factual based on animal studies.

I would like to see others devote the amount of time I did exposing "bro dogma" as in this instance AND admit their oversight was based on ANIMAL STUDIES, without being compelled to do so!

If you can locate more bro science I've mentioned SF as factual......POST IT!
 
The "bro science" I recently mentioned was recanted shortly thereafter (the next day, after 8 hours on Medline) eg Leydig cell "desensitization" because the evidence in humans either does NOT exist or is contrary to what has been published on "bro blogs" as factual based on animal studies.

I would like to see others devote the amount of time I did exposing "bro dogma" as in this instance AND admit their oversight was based on ANIMAL STUDIES, without being compelled to do so!

If you can locate more bro science I've mentioned SF as factual......POST IT!

in spite of all your exclamation points and pslabsesque ALL CAPS. I was not challenging you. It seems as though you missed the first line of my post.


And the third line..

And fourth...geez
 
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By all means OP go and search for anything which contradicts the statements I've made on Proviron.

Which is what you should have been willing to do from the outset. You could start by analyzing those articles which started this garbage and is now etched in bro lore!.

Try the efficacy of Masterone or even Deca in female breast cancer performed in the 1970s (that's right the 1970s) rather than expecting to be spoofed!

Oh obviously your unaware Meso software does NOT allow re-posts of identical articles and those citations were posted previously, by myself in response to another whose making the same regurgitated arguments as yourself!
 
Jim, this is getting real old... I don't give a fuck.

I didn't say I was looking for anything to contradict you with, I said I would go checkout midline myself, and yes mainly because you didn't link to any references in particular, I have no issue with doing the legwork myself.

Anyway if this is the kind of help that exist on meso then I'm not missing much. I uploaded these pics for the guys that are interested in dealing with SF for Siroxx gear, nothing more. If I wanted a running commentary on my choice of AAS for this cycle I would have asked for one.
 
Any time u post on this forum, perhaps unlike many other boards your accustomed to, expect your comments to be scrutinized rather accepted as factual.

In this instance your comment that Proviron effects the aromatase enzyme, in spite of irrefutable evidence (because it's a DHT DERIVATIVE) to the contrary, yet still post an OPINION from another AAS forum as factual evidence which supports your assertion, rest assured I (and in many instances, others) will do my/our best to ensure the information provided thereafter is accurate AND based on sound medical evidence whenever available.
 
SF
Come on now, I capitalized only 6 words out of 113, and a lame 3 exclamation points for a meek percentage of 5.3 and 2.6 percent respectively.

Have you NEVER read a BBC post, lol?

:)
 
Any time u post on this forum, perhaps unlike many other boards your accustomed to, expect your comments to be scrutinized rather accepted as factual.

Jim, maybe it's just your adversarial nature but you have an interesting way of interpreting my comments.

Now don't misconstrue what I've written, if I'm wrong and post something that's factually incorrect then I certainly hope someone corrects me, I think that was Ben's original intent here and I can appreciate that. But there is a time when the approach chosen to critique overshadows the actual content of the criticism itself. I`ve found you less then helpful from the onset of your first post here and right or wrong, up until about 3 post ago, to me your information (without citation) was no more valid then what I've found for myself on other boards.

I now have a better appreciation for the information you've provided which appears to be based on actual medical evidence and not simply more bad science, and now that you've shared your source I feel fairly confident that is the case here.

So if there is anything I am unaccustomed to it`s not the scrutiny of my comments it`s merely the attitude here that seems to go along with it.
 
I personally find it distasteful for you to post information from another site, (misleading the readership in believing it was an "article") and further muddy the waters, when an explanation was clearly provided by my self which you obviously overlooked or failed to understand yet is manifest by your insistance I cite a reference.

Utterly absurd, and destined to create angst with any mate attempting to aid the understanding of OTHER less obstinate or nescient members.

Lastly, considering other less patient vets would have told you to F-off long ago, I'll consider your "adversarial" comment a complimentary feature of my personality, lol!
 
I figured you would, and for future reference I would have preferred the F-off, it would have saved me a lot of typing.
 
I personally find it distasteful for you to post information from another site, (misleading the readership in believing it was an "article") and further muddy the waters, when an explanation was clearly provided by my self which you obviously overlooked or failed to understand yet is manifest by your insistance I cite a reference.

Utterly absurd, and destined to create angst with any mate attempting to aid the understanding of OTHER less obstinate or nescient members.

Lastly, considering other less patient vets would have told you to F-off long ago, I'll consider your "adversarial" comment a complimentary feature of my personality, lol!

Can't you appreciate the point he was trying to make though Jim??

He was misinformed on another board.

He was having a discussion/civil disagreement with BB and yourself and he posted the "reason" he believed what he did, which was a write-up some bro had done over on 'ology, and he was corrected. But he was only corrected by someone else's opnion. Although, we all know, the opinion he was corrected by had the benefit of also being correct.


Not everyone was in school for as long as you, not everyone is a "research warrior" who will do an 8 hour medline session as you will.

So, his request to you for a scholarly article seemed to me, to be an attempt at not repeating his historical mistake, of accepting someone's word as truth. Simply asking, why you believe what you believe, and he was met with signifigant angst IMO.

Sure the rest of us all realize that you know your shit, but how is he supposed to know? He just got here. You've only been here a year. He would have been foolish NOT to ask for a reference from you IMO.

Since a search of google would have turned up much more of bro-science that all of us (with the exception of maybe Dr. Scally) are susceptible to regurgitating at inopportune times.

Yes? Or am I off base....again.
 
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Nah it's cool bro, if Jim's got a rail on for me then whatever, thanks for seeing it from my prospective, props to that brother.
 
Good question but, it's my opinion he used the same amount of discretion and determination in discovering the answers to "questions" as he did reviewing my "Meso profile" as an initial means of evaluating my credibility.

Perhaps your suggesting I provide a "reference" for any and every noob whom disagrees with my assertions (based on twenty years of resding and analyzing the medical literature) when oftentimes the information I'm providing is common knowledge, as it was in this case, (DHT analogs DON'T bind aromatase) for those willing to pursue it.

Well I haven't the time to spoofed every lazy, uneducated and immature novice whom prances on Meso asking for "proof" and the suggestion is absurd IMO!

I will agree with one point, Dr. Scaly is much less influenced by "bro science" because he is much wiser than myself and has conditioned himself to simply NOT read it.

(I will continue to do so because being a genealogist, of sorts, I'm also interested in the origin of garbage, lol)
 
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