SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[Grab Bag]

Good attitude! When people accept what’s thrown their way, it sets the tone for the source to dictate. This isn’t a source board. His prices are a ripoff for only 5 mg of the same hormone.

Dude... I’ve never even ordered from this source, but his prices are very fair/cheap. I’m all for holding sources accountable, but you’re just being cheap.

 

[Villain]

Dude... I’ve never even ordered from this source, but his prices are very fair/cheap. I’m all for holding sources accountable, but you’re just being cheap.

I won’t deny his prices are cheap, but his Lady Var prices are wack, that’s all I’m saying.

 

[Villain]

Wooooohhhhh someone get this guy some AI fast!!! Lower that e2 brother. But ok you got me I’m a big @SymBiotics dick rider!!! Fuck yeahhhh!!!!

E2 in check homie. Think about it though - dude is on point with everything else, but this specific product pricing is wack. He should consider making it more in line with either double the caps at same price or lowering the price. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[Snipe_]

E2 in check homie. Think about it though - dude is on point with everything else, but this specific product pricing is wack. He should consider making it more in line with either double the caps at same price or lowering the price. That’s all I’m saying.

Thank you

 

[OldSmice]

E2 in check homie. Think about it though - dude is on point with everything else, but this specific product pricing is wack. He should consider making it more in line with either double the caps at same price or lowering the price. That’s all I’m saying.

Oh the irony of one dude complaining about lady var telling another dude to have his E2 checked.

 

[Oldschool]

Oh the irony of one dude complaining about lady var telling another dude to have his E2 checked.

Read much?

 

[OldSmice]

Read much?

Not if I can avoid it.

 

[Oldschool]

Not if I can avoid it.

It shows. Lol.

 

[Villain]

Oh the irony of one dude complaining about lady var telling another dude to have his E2 checked.

Do you usually speak out of complete ignorance, or did you make an exception today and make yourself look like an ass deliberately?

 

[OldSmice]

Do you usually speak out of complete ignorance, or did you make an exception today and make yourself look like an ass deliberately?

Yes.

I’m usually good for a zinger. I’ll admit I messed this one up.

 

[Oldschool]

Yes.

I’m usually good for a zinger. I’ll admit I messed this one up.

Happens to us all. Peace dude.

 

[Villain]

Yes.

I’m usually good for a zinger. I’ll admit I messed this one up.

Lol, at least you owned it. Peace.

 

[SymBiotics]

@SymBiotics
My test crashed in one vial all cloudy I fixed it with a lighter but still slight tint hair like crystals, so I’m assuming I should heat it more,

will there be any chance of the testosterone now not being equally distributed through the oil

I'm sorry for the delay in reply to this. It has been a crazy week.

Those tiny threadlike crystals would probably weight less than a milligram if you could get them all out and weight them at once. So I would not significantly affect the dose in your syringe.

However, I had them crash because the AC vent was blowing on them. I would put a vial in my pocket and after about an hour it is back into complete solution.

I would really like to ask that you don't use a lighter. Any non-flame heat source would be preferable to that.

 

[SymBiotics]

I've done a great deal of thinking about the subject of pricing and I have consulted the opinion of a respected veteran in this business. I have concluded that I unfortunately will have to eat some of my recent words.
I wasn't privy to the actual numbers involved in the price increases until early yesterday morning.
I know that many of you now have seen some products triple in price (actually some have quintipled for me because I had a really good international supplier). My former international supplier has completely shut the door on shipping hormones out of China. I have been assured that most non-controlled APIs will still be available; but it will be February before I can know if that is true.
So, exactly as @wedorecover and @XKawN stated over the last couple days; I am increasing prices.

I want to offer the rationale for this in the best way I can:

With the absence of TGI and Trenity, the last 2 weeks have been completely unbelievable for me. I am out of stock on many things; but what many of you don't realize is that I was well stocked 2 weeks ago.
I actually made orders to keep me stocked with a now MIA domestic provider, until my international delivery could arrive.
It is now evident that that domestic provider has vanished; so I ran out before the international delivery got here. And of course, the money I spent was completely wasted.
Now that some of my international products have arrived, I will be able to begin replenishing my out of stock items.
The problem is that the new price increases in raw materials make it impossible for me to order quantities sufficient to prevent a perpetual cycle of always being out of something-----unless I increase prices some in an effort to afford larger raw orders now.

A point that my friend made is that there could possibly (likely) be multiple sources on other boards that cease operations. In that event, the remaining sources will have to absorb that business.
I have enough product inbound now to BARELY handle the business I am getting; so to imagine a couple of sources on MESO absorbing a potential flood of business from elsewhere immediately justifies an increase in raw purchasing power.

So, effective tonight. The prices of my injectable line will go up a flat $5 on every vial.

I am completely prepared to receive tremendous pushback and negativity; but this is a decision made after considerable thought and it is final.

I hope I will not have to ever do this again. I appreciate you all reading this and I appreciate everyone who has ventured into trying my products.

 

[Villain]

I've done a great deal of thinking about the subject of pricing and I have consulted the opinion of a respected veteran in this business. I have concluded that I unfortunately will have to eat some of my recent words.
I wasn't privy to the actual numbers involved in the price increases until early yesterday morning.
I know that many of you now have seen some products triple in price (actually some have quintipled for me because I had a really good international supplier). My former international supplier has completely shut the door on shipping hormones out of China. I have been assured that most non-controlled APIs will still be available; but it will be February before I can know if that is true.
So, exactly as @wedorecover and @XKawN stated over the last couple days; I am increasing prices.

I want to offer the rationale for this in the best way I can:

With the absence of TGI and Trenity, the last 2 weeks have been completely unbelievable for me. I am out of stock on many things; but what many of you don't realize is that I was well stocked 2 weeks ago.
I actually made orders to keep me stocked with a now MIA domestic provider, until my international delivery could arrive.
It is now evident that that domestic provider has vanished; so I ran out before the international delivery got here. And of course, the money I spent was completely wasted.
Now that some of my international products have arrived, I will be able to begin replenishing my out of stock items.
The problem is that the new price increases in raw materials make it impossible for me to order quantities sufficient to prevent a perpetual cycle of always being out of something-----unless I increase prices some in an effort to afford larger raw orders now.

A point that my friend made is that there could possibly (likely) be multiple sources on other boards that cease operations. In that event, the remaining sources will have to absorb that business.
I have enough product inbound now to BARELY handle the business I am getting; so to imagine a couple of sources on MESO absorbing a potential flood of business from elsewhere immediately justifies an increase in raw purchasing power.

So, effective tonight. The prices of my injectable line will go up a flat $5 on every vial.

I am completely prepared to receive tremendous pushback and negativity; but this is a decision made after considerable thought and it is final.

I hope I will not have to ever do this again. I appreciate you all reading this and I appreciate everyone who has ventured into trying my products.

$5 per vial? Pfffft. Other sources are talking about doubling their prices, so you’re doing just fine with a $5 increase.

However, if you don’t mind addressing my post about Lady Var, that would be appreciated.

 

[SymBiotics]

$5 per vial? Pfffft. Other sources are talking about doubling their prices, so you’re doing just fine with a $5 increase.

However, if you don’t mind addressing my post about Lady Var, that would be appreciated.

Well, there is no sensible math to the pricing on these 2 products in respect to the amount of Anavar contained in a bottle of pills in each respective dosage. The difference is actually less than $5 for me; but the amount of work is the same.

Incidentally, have you opened a bottle of my capsules? There is far more to my products than the medications contained inside.


A bottle of 30 pills at 25mg each, contains a total of 750mg of oxandrolone. The mean price for a gram of oxandrolone when I bought it was about $4. So 0.75 grams in the bottle is about $3 worth of anavar.

A bottle of 30 of the 5mg capsules contains 150mg of total oxandrolone for a cost of $0.60.

If you take the cost of active in the 25mg caps ($3) and subtract the cost of the 5mg caps ($0.60) you get a cost difference of $2.40 in active ingredient.

So, by basing the price of the pills on the cost of active ingredient contained inside them; the price on the 5mg pills should be $27.60. Figuring it by the amount of active used would actually justify an INCREASE in the price by $2.60.

Also, I actually do carry anavar in a liquid. I sold out of it today.

So, in short, the price difference will stay the same on those two items.

 

[Villain]

Well, there is no sensible math to the pricing on these 2 products in respect to the amount of Anavar contained in a bottle of pills in each respective dosage. The difference is actually less than $5 for me; but the amount of work is the same.

Incidentally, have you opened a bottle of my capsules? There is far more to my products than the medications contained inside.


A bottle of 30 pills at 25mg each, contains a total of 750mg of oxandrolone. The mean price for a gram of oxandrolone when I bought it was about $4. So 0.75 grams in the bottle is about $3 worth of anavar.

A bottle of 30 of the 5mg capsules contains 150mg of total oxandrolone for a cost of $0.60.

If you take the cost of active in the 25mg caps ($3) and subtract the cost of the 5mg caps ($0.60) you get a cost difference of $2.40 in active ingredient.

So, by basing the price of the pills on the cost of active ingredient contained inside them; the price on the 5mg pills should be $27.60. Figuring it by the amount of active used would actually justify an INCREASE in the price by $2.60.

Also, I actually do carry anavar in a liquid. I sold out of it today.

So, in short, the price difference will stay the same on those two items.

Thanks for explaining and I’m not even going to try to argue math with you, as it is my weakest point. TGI and Pristine both sold it with 50 at the same price, and I know the profit margin is generally quite high, especially compared to injectables, but hey - just thought I’d run it by you.

 

[Dead]

Well, there is no sensible math to the pricing on these 2 products in respect to the amount of Anavar contained in a bottle of pills in each respective dosage. The difference is actually less than $5 for me; but the amount of work is the same.

Incidentally, have you opened a bottle of my capsules? There is far more to my products than the medications contained inside.


A bottle of 30 pills at 25mg each, contains a total of 750mg of oxandrolone. The mean price for a gram of oxandrolone when I bought it was about $4. So 0.75 grams in the bottle is about $3 worth of anavar.

A bottle of 30 of the 5mg capsules contains 150mg of total oxandrolone for a cost of $0.60.

If you take the cost of active in the 25mg caps ($3) and subtract the cost of the 5mg caps ($0.60) you get a cost difference of $2.40 in active ingredient.

So, by basing the price of the pills on the cost of active ingredient contained inside them; the price on the 5mg pills should be $27.60. Figuring it by the amount of active used would actually justify an INCREASE in the price by $2.60.

Also, I actually do carry anavar in a liquid. I sold out of it today.

So, in short, the price difference will stay the same on those two items.

How likely is it that you won’t be able to get testosterone eventually. E or c.
That’s my only concern

and maybe anadrol but mainly test

 

[Masterofron]

Thanks for explaining and I’m not even going to try to argue math with you, as it is my weakest point. TGI and Pristine both sold it with 50 at the same price, and I know the profit margin is generally quite high, especially compared to injectables, but hey - just thought I’d run it by you.

Why do you keep mentioning those other sources? Who gives a shit what they did their gone now, and even if they were around still it wouldn’t make a damn difference what their pricing was in comparison to Symbiotics pricing. Different sources have different products with different pricing, and at the end of the day most of it is already too cheap. And on that note, @SymBiotics a $5 increase is nothing. Everyone should be happy that we don’t have to pay more for this shit. @graciebjj weren't we recently just saying this in a different thread..?

 

[sgt.bryan]

can we get an updated price list?