SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

I completely agree. That’s not even factoring in other major expenses. Flow hoods are far from cheap and 26 test results from w&m would be around 4K. Add in lab equipment like the beaker drying rack, glassware, and kg quantities of raws the numbers start looking stupid high. The holes you poked in the biodiesel backstory make me scratch my head as well. Some things with this source just don’t add up at all.

The company I work for was involved in a high school demolition project 4 years ago. This was before I started gear and before I joined MESO and got educated on all this stuff.

But I walked thru the high school searching for the weight room to see what was left behind (got one of those Powertec leverage squat machines that I repaired and sold).

I remember the science classrooms had beakers, Bunsen burners, flasks, hot water baths.... and each classroom had a flow hood. I’m kicking myself now. Just HAVING that stuff stored away would be cool now I know the value (and usefulness).
 
This is going to be a long post so get your beer and tinfoil hats ready.

Re-red the source material (symbiotic posts) he didn’t say he filtered the diesel for 4 years, but that it started 4 years ago, so my mistake for that one. However it doesn’t change the fact that there’s a million red flags in that story. It also doesn’t explain why he had all of this equipment just laying around somewhere to begin with. He didn’t have a buddy approach him about filtering oil then he dumped 20k into a setup for it.

Some other things that don’t line up. He has a join date of February 8, 2018 long before TGI or any other decent source came around for him to model after. Back then you had what RR and SAS? SAS used MCT and not gso, symbiotic said he specifically chose GSO because it’s the most common however TGI offered mct from the start and SAS only used mct. Prissy only uses safflower.

He mentioned he lurked on here for a long time before joining, so he spent 18 months as a member and however else long before 2/2018 lurking as a guest looking to get into the steroid market.

However we have to conflicting statements. From his intro:

“About SymBiotics:

I began sterile filtration of hormones in oil a little over 4 years ago. I stumbled upon it by happenstance when a friend asked if he could pay me to filter large volumes of oil solutions for him. He said it was something to do with biodiesel research.”

From post #91 Tbagger asked
“ How long have you been brewing, not filtering, but actually brewing gear?”

To which symbiotic responds

“My 6th year but it was only personal use and friends use until last year when I started saving and brewing for this intro. All very small volumes and mostly with syringe filters.
I always wondered why my friend's biodiesel was different colors. My first trenbolone brewing experience was about 4 years ago, and the color of it is what made me originally inquire about the oils I was filtering.”

So he’s been a home brewer for 6 years but he began sterile filtration of hormones in oil 4 years ago with the biodiesel story? I’d think he began 6 years ago as a home brewer. And as a home brewer for 2 years before he was approached with the biodiesel shit he should have known exactly what the fuck was going on. “Hmmm this guy wants me to filter this diesel exactly like I’ve filtered my steroids for the last 2 years in these sterile .22micron filters. And even though I use syringe filters I’ve got these super fucking expensive membrane filters just sitting here for no reason so I can use those.”


He also states it wasn’t until he home brewed tren that he became suspicious of the diesel, yet nothing else about any other diesel/AAS combo or using the same methodology raised suspicion?

He also stated that he was approached with the diesel project 4 years ago and also made his first tren home brew 4 years ago. So there’s some overlap in there somewhere but still the 6 years home brew throws me off.

So after he started with and dumped his buddy in the same year he looked into the black market. Spent 30 or so months lurking, 18 months as a non posting member, and came in here with this intro. All while he had the filters and claves for what purpose before all of this?

It honestly sounds like he’s a large rebranded lab, or he worked for a large lab and has been planning to branch off for a while. Maybe both, still operates a large lab but wants to drum up more business.
 
This is going to be a long post so get your beer and tinfoil hats ready.

Re-red the source material (symbiotic posts) he didn’t say he filtered the diesel for 4 years, but that it started 4 years ago, so my mistake for that one. However it doesn’t change the fact that there’s a million red flags in that story. It also doesn’t explain why he had all of this equipment just laying around somewhere to begin with. He didn’t have a buddy approach him about filtering oil then he dumped 20k into a setup for it.

Some other things that don’t line up. He has a join date of February 8, 2018 long before TGI or any other decent source came around for him to model after. Back then you had what RR and SAS? SAS used MCT and not gso, symbiotic said he specifically chose GSO because it’s the most common however TGI offered mct from the start and SAS only used mct. Prissy only uses safflower.

He mentioned he lurked on here for a long time before joining, so he spent 18 months as a member and however else long before 2/2018 lurking as a guest looking to get into the steroid market.

However we have to conflicting statements. From his intro:

“About SymBiotics:

I began sterile filtration of hormones in oil a little over 4 years ago. I stumbled upon it by happenstance when a friend asked if he could pay me to filter large volumes of oil solutions for him. He said it was something to do with biodiesel research.”

From post #91 Tbagger asked
“ How long have you been brewing, not filtering, but actually brewing gear?”

To which symbiotic responds

“My 6th year but it was only personal use and friends use until last year when I started saving and brewing for this intro. All very small volumes and mostly with syringe filters.
I always wondered why my friend's biodiesel was different colors. My first trenbolone brewing experience was about 4 years ago, and the color of it is what made me originally inquire about the oils I was filtering.”

So he’s been a home brewer for 6 years but he began sterile filtration of hormones in oil 4 years ago with the biodiesel story? I’d think he began 6 years ago as a home brewer. And as a home brewer for 2 years before he was approached with the biodiesel shit he should have known exactly what the fuck was going on. “Hmmm this guy wants me to filter this diesel exactly like I’ve filtered my steroids for the last 2 years in these sterile .22micron filters. And even though I use syringe filters I’ve got these super fucking expensive membrane filters just sitting here for no reason so I can use those.”


He also states it wasn’t until he home brewed tren that he became suspicious of the diesel, yet nothing else about any other diesel/AAS combo or using the same methodology raised suspicion?

He also stated that he was approached with the diesel project 4 years ago and also made his first tren home brew 4 years ago. So there’s some overlap in there somewhere but still the 6 years home brew throws me off.

So after he started with and dumped his buddy in the same year he looked into the black market. Spent 30 or so months lurking, 18 months as a non posting member, and came in here with this intro. All while he had the filters and claves for what purpose before all of this?

It honestly sounds like he’s a large rebranded lab, or he worked for a large lab and has been planning to branch off for a while. Maybe both, still operates a large lab but wants to drum up more business.
Picholas is back with a vengeance :D
 
This is going to be a long post so get your beer and tinfoil hats ready.

Re-red the source material (symbiotic posts) he didn’t say he filtered the diesel for 4 years, but that it started 4 years ago, so my mistake for that one. However it doesn’t change the fact that there’s a million red flags in that story. It also doesn’t explain why he had all of this equipment just laying around somewhere to begin with. He didn’t have a buddy approach him about filtering oil then he dumped 20k into a setup for it.

Some other things that don’t line up. He has a join date of February 8, 2018 long before TGI or any other decent source came around for him to model after. Back then you had what RR and SAS? SAS used MCT and not gso, symbiotic said he specifically chose GSO because it’s the most common however TGI offered mct from the start and SAS only used mct. Prissy only uses safflower.

He mentioned he lurked on here for a long time before joining, so he spent 18 months as a member and however else long before 2/2018 lurking as a guest looking to get into the steroid market.

However we have to conflicting statements. From his intro:

“About SymBiotics:

I began sterile filtration of hormones in oil a little over 4 years ago. I stumbled upon it by happenstance when a friend asked if he could pay me to filter large volumes of oil solutions for him. He said it was something to do with biodiesel research.”

From post #91 Tbagger asked
“ How long have you been brewing, not filtering, but actually brewing gear?”

To which symbiotic responds

“My 6th year but it was only personal use and friends use until last year when I started saving and brewing for this intro. All very small volumes and mostly with syringe filters.
I always wondered why my friend's biodiesel was different colors. My first trenbolone brewing experience was about 4 years ago, and the color of it is what made me originally inquire about the oils I was filtering.”

So he’s been a home brewer for 6 years but he began sterile filtration of hormones in oil 4 years ago with the biodiesel story? I’d think he began 6 years ago as a home brewer. And as a home brewer for 2 years before he was approached with the biodiesel shit he should have known exactly what the fuck was going on. “Hmmm this guy wants me to filter this diesel exactly like I’ve filtered my steroids for the last 2 years in these sterile .22micron filters. And even though I use syringe filters I’ve got these super fucking expensive membrane filters just sitting here for no reason so I can use those.”


He also states it wasn’t until he home brewed tren that he became suspicious of the diesel, yet nothing else about any other diesel/AAS combo or using the same methodology raised suspicion?

He also stated that he was approached with the diesel project 4 years ago and also made his first tren home brew 4 years ago. So there’s some overlap in there somewhere but still the 6 years home brew throws me off.

So after he started with and dumped his buddy in the same year he looked into the black market. Spent 30 or so months lurking, 18 months as a non posting member, and came in here with this intro. All while he had the filters and claves for what purpose before all of this?

It honestly sounds like he’s a large rebranded lab, or he worked for a large lab and has been planning to branch off for a while. Maybe both, still operates a large lab but wants to drum up more business.
 
Those and the heat-sealed childproof capsule bottles were my attempt to set myself apart from everyone by offering things that others do not. A bit more work and expense; but with some luck it will be worth it.
Plus, I imagined myself having a ziplock bag of pills versus a commercial appearing bottle in my gym bag. I reasoned that the bottle would appear less suspicious.
Well if this turns out well now I will have to order just to have some of those sealers. And even tho this isn’t concrete proof, my first opinion would be, a source that goes to the length probably gets quality raws as well, even tho that could totally be completely false.
I never seen a ugl go to this length tho
 
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