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Because his story of how he happened across tens of thousands of dollars in equipment hinges on the story in his first post, which may not be 100% accurate. My point is he’s building misinformation on top of misinformation. Which is great, except it still leaves the question of how someone came up with all that money and equipment.

Something is just off about this guy.
I like how you think. Bet those reports from W&M are old reports that were scanned.
 
Did you just made up that numer ? IF you didnt time to change supplier... fast.
I have similar filter 298mm pressure filter holder + p-pump+ 100filters cost me 800 usd, the pressure filer alone i get for 350-400usd .
Autocleave 25 l goes for 400-450 usd from the right supplier.

Also the powder mixer looks like the size of a vh-2 that goes for around 800usd

Please dont just look at your local resellers and yell out prices.

There is a magical place in the world for equipment like this.

Just looked up those style filters a while ago and checked again before posting. If you know where to get one of those filters housings for $400 instead of $4,000 I’d love to know. I’ll buy some and open my own damn lab.

Edit: I know the blenders are only 5 or 600. I just don’t remember him posting a picture so I asked for it. And actually @symbiotic I don’t remember pictures of the filters themselves, don’t need another Syain incident.
 
Just looked up those style filters a while ago and checked again before posting. If you know where to get one of those filters housings for $400 instead of $4,000 I’d love to know. I’ll buy some and open my own damn lab.

Bought it from ppl last time.
IF you look at the internet it’s very easy to find.
Just found 5 suppliers under 3 min for 300-500usd
I guess someone licks your ass too when you try to find a raw supplier?

As you Said before ” just becouse you own a tablet press doesnt men you know how to use it ”

Maybe it is time to Learn how the internet and export bussiness work.
 
Bought it from ppl last time.
IF you look at the internet it’s very easy to find.
Just found 5 suppliers under 3 min for 300-500usd
I guess someone licks your ass too when you try to find a raw supplier?

As you Said before ” just becouse you own a tablet press doesnt men you know how to use it ”

Maybe it is time to Learn how the internet and export bussiness work.

Guess tor doesn’t want to cooperate today

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Wow man i am so sorry, that is not even the filter he is using...

Hope you Will learn somthing today .

as you can see on the picture, look close. the funnel is not from the supplier, more selfbuild

the filter membrane holder he is using cost around 300- 500 usd, you're welcome

Never said I found the one he was using, only provided examples of pressure membrane housings, feel free to provide one of the oh so many sources you’ve already found
 
Never said I found the one he was using, only provided examples of pressure membrane housings, feel free to provide one of the oh so many sources you’ve already found
you know about alibaba for example ? use it

you claimed he had filters that cost around 2000 usd each- and provided a picture for it. means that you thought he had it.

so then we can calculate his lab using capsule filters becouse they do the same thing right ? so his filter setup now cost 210 usd if we are going to use your logic and make the calculation on whatever filter we find on the internet.
 
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you know about alibaba for example ? use it

you claimed he had filters that cost around 2000 usd each- and provided a picture for it. means that you thought he had it.

so then we can calculate his lab using capsule filters becouse they do the same thing right ? so his filter setup now cost 210 usd if we are going to use your logic and make the calculation on whatever filter we find on the internet.

No, my logic was based on his own remarks along the lines of “ if you know what these filters are you know how much they cost, and they’re expensive”

You’re the one extrapolating pressure membranes to capsules. I’m extrapolating membrane to membrane.
 
same idéa same function diffrent name/looks.
only diffrence is that the capuse you will throw away and buy a new one.
bothe are pressure filters.

“ if you know what these filters are you know how much they cost, and they’re expensive”

yes they are expensive to a normal person, i dont know alot of people who can spend 350-500 * 7 usd to buy filter holder, do you ?

that doesnt mean that they cost over 2000 usd each.
 
So many people defending the source in this thread if he’s so smart let him defend himself I thought that’s the whole point it’s like giving out a test then having the answers in the board

I Not defending him directly.
I am defending the fact that this guy is making up numbers from thin air about prices of equipment the seller doesn't even use.

If he doesn't know what equipments he is using, he should not talk.'

claiming that the equiptment is worth 40k when it is ten times less.
 
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same idéa same function diffrent name/looks.
only diffrence is that the capuse you will throw away and buy a new one.
bothe are pressure filters.

“ if you know what these filters are you know how much they cost, and they’re expensive”

yes they are expensive to a normal person, i dont know alot of people who can spend 350-500 * 7 usd to buy filter holder, do you ?

that doesnt mean that they cost over 2000 usd each.
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same idéa same function diffrent name/looks.
only diffrence is that the capuse you will throw away and buy a new one.
bothe are pressure filters.

“ if you know what these filters are you know how much they cost, and they’re expensive”

yes they are expensive to a normal person, i dont know alot of people who can spend 350-500 * 7 usd to buy filter holder, do you ?

that doesnt mean that they cost over 2000 usd each.

At 350-500 it would put the pressure filters on par with vacuum filters and therefore not expensive at all for someone opening a lab. Also he claims he had them before sourcing and used them for legit scientific research over the years. Since alibaba wasn’t much of a retailer in the United States 5 years ago I doubt that’s where symbiotic sourced these things for his “legit scientific research” all those years ago was an obscure, largely unknown outside of China e-commerce site. Today sure, but you need to remember where we are in the timeline of events, he didn’t just buy them last month.
 
Does it really matter? Where he got his equipment??
If his Raws Test good
Final product test good?????
He donates to anabolic lab
His presence on his thread is daily

Does his product test good? We don’t know yet. I got the same shit for Olympic and sayain labs and look what happened to them.

On top of my boredom at work there’s something that just doesn’t sit right with this guy and I’ve got extra time to devote to it. I really do hope he puts out a great product and everyone is happy, but I’m going to continue to dig into what doesn’t feel right until I’m satisfied and/or my life outside of meso requires more attention than this is worth. Go look at the gen tech thread, there were a lot of unanswered questions from me but my life at that point was more important than the answers. I just won’t buy from them and I’ll take the chance of getting my stuff through customs when I go to Canada.
 
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