Broskie
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lol
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SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)
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Broskie
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I've been on clomid 50mg/day for 4 years. No side effects to note. Although it is reported to have issues elevating lipids, all my bloodwork shows me sitting very well. The labs I posted while on EQ and clomid show me only a few points out of range. Once I come off I'm certain its perfectly fine. I've been considering moving off of clomid and onto toremphine. A "newer" generation SERM reportedly to be cleaner than clomid although a bit weaker, and studies show it actually has positive affects on lipid values. One of the only to do this.
Both my endocrinologist and my GP say they have patients treated with clomid and they do 50mg daily for years as well. At some point I was doing 50mg EOD and my GP actually recommended I move to 50mg ED.
As for my cycles, yes I saw very nice gains. Though I am not pursuing the "mass monster" physique that others do. Clomid keeps me feeling very normal, and I absolutely would add test if I did not take clomid.
Villain
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TNotch347
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4 years on clomid, wow that’s scary.. can’t be good.
Broskie
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Long-Term Safety and Efficacy of Clomiphene Citrate for the Treatment of Hypogonadism. - PubMed - NCBI
I've seen very little to show that clomid is harsh whatsoever.
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Abstract
PURPOSE:
Clomiphene citrate may be used as an off label treatment of hypogonadism. There are few long-term data on clomiphene citrate efficacy and safety when administered for more than 3 years. We assessed improvements in testosterone and hypogonadal symptoms while on clomiphene citrate for extended periods.
MATERIALS AND METHODS:
We performed a retrospective review to identify patients treated with clomiphene citrate for hypogonadism (baseline testosterone less than 300 ng/dl) at a total of 2 institutions from 2010 to 2018. We assessed the duration of clomiphene citrate therapy, serum testosterone levels, symptom improvement and clomiphene citrate side effects.
RESULTS:
A total of 400 patients underwent clomiphene citrate treatment for a mean ± SD of 25.5 ± 20.48 months (range 0 to 84). Of the patients 280 received clomiphene citrate for 3 years or less (mean 12.75 ± 9.52 months) and 120 received it for more than 3 years (mean 51.93 ± 10.52 months). Of men on clomiphene citrate for more than 3 years 88% achieved eugonadism, 77% reported improved symptoms and 8% reported side effects. Estradiol was significantly increased following clomiphene citrate treatment. Results did not significantly differ between patients treated for more than 3, or 3 or fewer years. The most common side effects reported by patients treated more than 3 years included changes in mood in 5, blurred vision in 3 and breast tenderness in 2. There was no significant adverse event in any patient treated with clomiphene citrate.
CONCLUSIONS:
Clomiphene citrate is not typically offered as primary treatment of hypogonadism in men who do not desire fertility preservation. These data demonstrate that clomiphene citrate is safe and effective with few side effects when used as long-term treatment of hypogonadism."
Also blurry vision is a pretty common side effect 1-10%. He was on 100mg, thats a little much.
chandlerjohnson3
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Is sym taking orders at the moment wasn’t sure? Figured I’d ask on here before messaging him in case someone knew
notdeadYET
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You could do a search on his posts and find out yourself. Or you can wait for @Tiredandhot to see this post and give you an answer. Hah.
Broskie
Member
There was no significant adverse event in any patient treated with clomiphene citrate.
No strokes, no heart attacks, no cancers.
No strokes, no heart attacks, no cancers.
Are you guys for real Japanese?
MisterSuperGod
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Try reading. It'll do you a world of good.
Would you like to assign me any particular pages or should I just read all 301?
BigMo
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Meet Akari lool
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BigMo
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Sorry bro couldn't help my self , but read from pages 1 through 200 skip 200 to 295 its @Oldschool arguing with other members then from 296 to 301 you'll be up to date .
MisterSuperGod
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Neither. Use the search function. Tick the box marked search this thread only and put in Symbiotics name in the member field.
Lol ahh ok
SirPuFFaLoT
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this is what I will start doing. thank you.I believe a lot of dudes transfer money into their USD wallet to avoid the fluctuations that BTC has. You keep your cash in that wallet until you’re ready to purchase btc. With the USD wallet all it does is hold your cash without fluctuations.
I also think it has to be transferred from your bank and cannot be added instantly from like your debit/credit card? I link my card for instant purchases and just purchase btc the exact time I place an order.
notdeadYET
Well-known Member
You can't ruin the movie like that.
BigMo
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Lool, My bad. I do apologize for that.
William Dee Calrissian
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On last weeks episode of "as the Sym runs(gear)" Sym mistakenly mislabeled some gear at a higher dose.... our protagonist took swift action and offered multiple options of compensation. Will his patrons remain satisfied? Let's take a trip down town audience! Oh wow there are some rough types here, lots of hostility, let's move on to a safer place. On today's episode you will see multiple satisfied customers, but will Sym ever get the fabled G2G? No! Because its MESO! On a serious note,newer guys do yourself a favor and read, it's all In here. I have had a good experience thus far, but I'm just a stranger on the internet. Dont be so quick to pin yourself with gear without educating yourself about your supplier.
Edit* but shouldn't have two T's in this case. Also I felt like I needed atleast five more commas
BigMo
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So I've been receiving emails all day from everyone I pay money too (bills) advising me and telling me how they are trying to help us during these difficult times with the Coronavirus issue. My question is when is @SymBiotics going to send me an email to tell me what proactive steps he is taking to ensure that he is helping “flatten the curve” of infection growth.
