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We’re far from overpopulated. I believe they said the entire earth’s population could all fit comfortably in Alaska with room for more.
We are grossly over populated. Not based off of the physical size but rather what we consume and what waste we produce. Look at China who had the 1 child law. Unfortunately I think this will become apparent in my lifetime. Shit we may see it if this thing goes sideways. Plus our species has become weak. The weak have bred with the weak mentally and physically. Our society is fucked. Just look at our reaction to this.
 
We are grossly over populated. Not based off of the physical size but rather what we consume and what waste we produce. Look at China who had the 1 child law. Unfortunately I think this will become apparent in my lifetime. Shit we may see it if this thing goes sideways. Plus our species has become weak. The weak have bred with the weak mentally and physically. Our society is fucked. Just look at our reaction to this.
I’ll buy THAT definition of overpopulation, but even then I’m pretty sure it comes down to a matter of control. We have more than enough resources to take care of everyone, but greed is what drives us to these issues. Look at the Vatican - perfect example of greed and hoarding wealth.
 
A total idiot wouldn't much such a good job at avoiding the points and questions raised ;) Though you've disappointed me with yet another deflection.

So let's say partial one, for claiming that flu is worse, let's settle on that.

You’re about as much fun to argue with as @Sworder. You know WAY more than the rest of us, call bullshit, talk in circles, and yet never once provide any supporting evidence of your position.

Like I said though, when this all blows over and never even closely reaches the “extremes” that they claim, it’ll be because “we took the appropriate precautions to lessen this pandemic”. No one will ever point out “the risk simply was never there to begin with.”

I’d like to meet the one scientist that has the balls to go against the grain on this sort of thing. But that never happens because scientists only do studies that are funded. And there’s zero funding given to a disease that isn’t serious at all. Otherwise they would have cured the common cold years ago.

Even sciencey shit is corrupt
 
Someone close to me showed me a memo that was sent from the CDC last week. It compared influenza mortality to the novel coronavirus.
I believe it was the 2019 flu statistic that showed 34 million flu cases with 20,000 deaths----an approximate mortality rate of 0.05%.
The known cases of novel coronavirus infection at the time were 113,000 with 4,000 deaths-----an approximate mortality rate of 3.5%.

These statistics show that the novel coronavirus has approximately 70 times the mortality rate of influenza.

While this is very concerning; you have to consider that influenza screening is very common and widespread. Heck, I went to get my blood pressure medicines filled and get my annual physical at the same time I had cold symptoms. I didn't even have a fever and they swabbed my nose to test for flu.
She said, "The good news is, you don't have the flu." lol
I think that is insurance fraud or something to have a test that I didn't need.

I believe there are literally millions of undiagnosed cases of coronavirus; and it is likely that many of these people are asymptomatic carriers. This could make the statistics much, much worse; or could make the statistics much less ominous than the 3.5% mortality.
It is entirely too early for even the epidemiology braniacs to hypothesize.

I imagine within the next couple weeks to 1 month, things will either: A) blow over and leave some people with a closet full of toilet paper; or B) get much worse with a, at minimum, temporary change to "liberties" and daily life as we know it.

One thing I feel certain about: Containment is, at this point, a lost cause. It is here and there and everywhere; and it will run its course. The media fueled hysteria has the potential to have a much greater impact on life, in my opinion, than the virus itself.

But scientific research and hypothesis are not my specialty------I'm just a drug dealer.:D
 
Someone close to me showed me a memo that was sent from the CDC last week. It compared influenza mortality to the novel coronavirus.
I believe it was the 2019 flu statistic that showed 34 million flu cases with 20,000 deaths----an approximate mortality rate of 0.05%.
The known cases of novel coronavirus infection at the time were 113,000 with 4,000 deaths-----an approximate mortality rate of 3.5%.

These statistics show that the novel coronavirus has approximately 70 times the mortality rate of influenza.

While this is very concerning; you have to consider that influenza screening is very common and widespread. Heck, I went to get my blood pressure medicines filled and get my annual physical at the same time I had cold symptoms. I didn't even have a fever and they swabbed my nose to test for flu.
She said, "The good news is, you don't have the flu." lol
I think that is insurance fraud or something to have a test that I didn't need.

I believe there are literally millions of undiagnosed cases of coronavirus; and it is likely that many of these people are asymptomatic carriers. This could make the statistics much, much worse; or could make the statistics much less ominous than the 3.5% mortality.
It is entirely too early for even the epidemiology braniacs to hypothesize.

I imagine within the next couple weeks to 1 month, things will either: A) blow over and leave some people with a closet full of toilet paper; or B) get much worse with a, at minimum, temporary change to "liberties" and daily life as we know it.

One thing I feel certain about: Containment is, at this point, a lost cause. It is here and there and everywhere; and it will run its course. The media fueled hysteria has the potential to have a much greater impact on life, in my opinion, than the virus itself.

But scientific research and hypothesis are not my specialty------I'm just a drug dealer.:D

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There you go @janoshik suck it you supposed smart bitch! @SymBiotics is smarterest than you AND he’s just an Internet drug dealer. That’s gotta make you feel pretty fucking Polish right now! [emoji1787]
 
Someone close to me showed me a memo that was sent from the CDC last week. It compared influenza mortality to the novel coronavirus.
I believe it was the 2019 flu statistic that showed 34 million flu cases with 20,000 deaths----an approximate mortality rate of 0.05%.
The known cases of novel coronavirus infection at the time were 113,000 with 4,000 deaths-----an approximate mortality rate of 3.5%.

These statistics show that the novel coronavirus has approximately 70 times the mortality rate of influenza.

While this is very concerning; you have to consider that influenza screening is very common and widespread. Heck, I went to get my blood pressure medicines filled and get my annual physical at the same time I had cold symptoms. I didn't even have a fever and they swabbed my nose to test for flu.
She said, "The good news is, you don't have the flu." lol
I think that is insurance fraud or something to have a test that I didn't need.

I believe there are literally millions of undiagnosed cases of coronavirus; and it is likely that many of these people are asymptomatic carriers. This could make the statistics much, much worse; or could make the statistics much less ominous than the 3.5% mortality.
It is entirely too early for even the epidemiology braniacs to hypothesize.

I imagine within the next couple weeks to 1 month, things will either: A) blow over and leave some people with a closet full of toilet paper; or B) get much worse with a, at minimum, temporary change to "liberties" and daily life as we know it.

One thing I feel certain about: Containment is, at this point, a lost cause. It is here and there and everywhere; and it will run its course. The media fueled hysteria has the potential to have a much greater impact on life, in my opinion, than the virus itself.

But scientific research and hypothesis are not my specialty------I'm just a drug dealer.:D
The fatality rate isn't even the issue. The issue is an overload on the health care infrastructure. The national data shows 20% of the people who get infected require inpatient hospitalization. And just to be clear, you don't get admitted to a hospital unless you absolutely need to (I have to clarify that because people think the media is making healthy people jump in HSP beds). And yes, there is a lot of questions around this data due to different demographics and exactly how that applies to the US (Korea had lower numbers, Italy had higher numbers. Korea has a young demographic). Community based outbreaks means 20% of that community literally shows up at the hospital within the same week to be treated for exactly the same thing. There simply isn't enough beds or supplies to support that. In Italy they are actually picking and choosing who to treat and who to let die. that is what it has come to.

What really chaps my ass in the lack of data coming out of the US. They botched the testing. Nobody is reporting the percentage of cases that require inpatient hospitalization in the US (even though we know of 5000+ cases).

Korea made us look like chumps. 2 weeks social distancing is all they had and the virus is on it's way out. It is because they had testing and tracked the data accordingly. The US could have prevented this entire shut down but all the red tape bukllshit from the FDA prevented testing.
 
; or B) get much worse with a, at minimum, temporary change to "liberties" and daily life as we know it.
Temporarily return. You have rights until you don't have rights. The gov can do whatever the fuck it wants.

I only know a bit but the following is some of the constitutional rights violated. They did/participated in: droning a citizen without trial, keeping prisoners secretly with no access to lawyers, torture, mass surveillance, japanese internment camps.

They're complicit in other shit that I don't know if it violates the constitution but it is REALLY fucked up anyways. iran-contra, uss liberty , tuskegee experiment, mk ultra.

They will never stop.
 
Speaking of which, I have to ask: do you tithe off of your earnings from this venture?
I do. My revenue is divided into 3----tithe, supplies, and profit.
I talked about this with someone very early on in the thread I think. It could have been in email though. I just can't remember.
 
I do. My revenue is divided into 3----tithe, supplies, and profit.
I talked about this with someone very early on in the thread I think. It could have been in email though. I just can't remember.
Haha, I wonder if your pastor would still take your tithes if he knew where it was coming from. People say all the time, “if I win the lottery, I’m giving 10% to my church!” No pastor will consider it sin money when that big check rolls in.
 
The fatality rate isn't even the issue. The issue is an overload on the health care infrastructure. The national data shows 20% of the people who get infected require inpatient hospitalization. And just to be clear, you don't get admitted to a hospital unless you absolutely need to (I have to clarify that because people think the media is making healthy people jump in HSP beds). And yes, there is a lot of questions around this data due to different demographics and exactly how that applies to the US (Korea had lower numbers, Italy had higher numbers. Korea has a young demographic). Community based outbreaks means 20% of that community literally shows up at the hospital within the same week to be treated for exactly the same thing. There simply isn't enough beds or supplies to support that. In Italy they are actually picking and choosing who to treat and who to let die. that is what it has come to.

What really chaps my ass in the lack of data coming out of the US. They botched the testing. Nobody is reporting the percentage of cases that require inpatient hospitalization in the US (even though we know of 5000+ cases).

Korea made us look like chumps. 2 weeks social distancing is all they had and the virus is on it's way out. It is because they had testing and tracked the data accordingly. The US could have prevented this entire shut down but all the red tape bukllshit from the FDA prevented testing.
That 20% is very disturbing if it is legitimate.
There is no way possible for the hospitals to absorb 20% of the population as inpatients.
Los Angeles has around 12 million people (I think). There is no way there are 2.4 million hospital beds available for that population.

I had no idea of this hospitalization statistic. It actually gave me chill bumps when I read that. I can only imagine the level of animosity in the waiting room when some guy's sick grandma is denied admission because there isn't room-----the craziness would be instantly contagious to the masses like back in the 90's when the police vs. Rodney King deal went down.

What bothers me the absolute most is that people in other countries watch our news and see what a bunch of bumbling idiotic sissies there are here. There are people that get their villages burned and their women and children raped because they took too many sips of water. Those same village burners and rapists get on the internet and see us over here freaking out over toilet paper and germex. I can imagine any third-world country looking at us right now and feeling like they could come in and take us after seeing how weak our society really is.

In a perfect world, the leftists would back off gun control and focus on media containment. If there is some right that is definitely detrimental to our way of life- it is the right that the media is exercising to air all of out dirty laundry to the world over the internet.
We could at least go back to forcing other countries to send a spy over here to buy a newspaper;)

OK. I recognize that I am probably too emotionally invested in this politically charged issue.
I'm going to officially resign from this conversation and go buy some more ammo:D
 
Haha, I wonder if your pastor would still take your tithes if he knew where it was coming from. People say all the time, “if I win the lottery, I’m giving 10% to my church!” No pastor will consider it sin money when that big check rolls in.
Well, if I was giving it to the pastor for his approval; I would ask him.

I already dealt with the only opinion I value on the subject.
The answer I got is that I have to do the best I can with what I have.
 
That 20% is very disturbing if it is legitimate.
There is no way possible for the hospitals to absorb 20% of the population as inpatients.
Los Angeles has around 12 million people (I think). There is no way there are 2.4 million hospital beds available for that population.

I had no idea of this hospitalization statistic. It actually gave me chill bumps when I read that. I can only imagine the level of animosity in the waiting room when some guy's sick grandma is denied admission because there isn't room-----the craziness would be instantly contagious to the masses like back in the 90's when the police vs. Rodney King deal went down.

What bothers me the absolute most is that people in other countries watch our news and see what a bunch of bumbling idiotic sissies there are here. There are people that get their villages burned and their women and children raped because they took too many sips of water. Those same village burners and rapists get on the internet and see us over here freaking out over toilet paper and germex. I can imagine any third-world country looking at us right now and feeling like they could come in and take us after seeing how weak our society really is.

In a perfect world, the leftists would back off gun control and focus on media containment. If there is some right that is definitely detrimental to our way of life- it is the right that the media is exercising to air all of out dirty laundry to the world over the internet.
We could at least go back to forcing other countries to send a spy over here to buy a newspaper;)

OK. I recognize that I am probably too emotionally invested in this politically charged issue.
I'm going to officially resign from this conversation and go buy some more ammo:D
But hey, BBBG says it's better than flu, so why the chills man.

It's not like I'm a doctor and he ain't.

Oh, wait. :p
 
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