SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

@Connor 25257 is lurking and reading these posts. He gave Sym’s post a “like”. He’s all flummoxed watching his beloved clearnet source begin to show cracks. Piss off back to the darknet Connor. Everyone knows clearnet sources have hair and shit in them.

Im sure Sym is pissed for accidentally giving the "Connor batch" to @Rival and @justanoob by mistake haha.
 
Damn it @SymBiotics!!!

Floaters are just about the kiss of death. What’s the point of properly doses gear if it’s got foreign matter in it?

There are a couple things here that are concerning in your admission of wrongdoing. For one, why have a flow hood if the fucking autoclave trays don’t fit inside. It’s not exactly a flow hood then is it? You got too big and can’t handle the demand so you’ve been cutting corners filling vials outside of the flow hood for how long now? Tsk tsk

Then, you notice inferior wrappings. You pull that one out and notice lint-like shit gets dispersed. You tossed a few trays as a precaution but you didn’t toss ALL. That’s another shortcut. All of this because you got too big and couldn’t keep up.

We warned you of that back in your intro and vetting process. We tell every source that comes here that if they do things the correct way they will be overwhelmingly busy. And look what happened.

You had an out less than two weeks ago too. The “return to shipper” pack should have sent you private. But you’re not doing gods work here, friend, you’re raking in the bitcoins. That announcement of maybe going private of maybe taking only XMR sent demand skyrocketing. One final BIG haul and then you promised yourself you’d take it easy. How’d that go?

Sources are good until they go bad. You fucked up and cut corners. That’s how it usually goes. Now this was floaters in vials. But imagine if you cut corners on your drops. Hit the close ones a couple too many times. You could have been facing something worse for you than dirty gear.

This is over and done with. Read the Sasquatch thread. They found floaters, shut-down, refiltered everything and came back to hang on for a couple more months before disappearing permanently.

Make everyone whole and think about your next move. You could go out honest and free or you could continue on, make a couple costly mistakes and lose a lot more than you are prepared to lose.
Hes all excuses bro. You've been on here long enough to know this is how it always kicks off. Ive seen good sources on here kick rocks for less...He can either bow out with some dignity or carry on like you said. Apparently his fan club has zero issues with contaminated vials. Odd....
 
Sym bitotics I know you gave this your all. It’s tough for one man to do all this shit especially with one hand as you had to do in the past months. While dirty gear is unacceptable I know good and well you gave everything you have into the quality of your products. That has been your reputation from the start of your journey. I put more faith in you as a source than anyone else still. This is a sign that you need to look for someone to help you brew. You are just overwhelmed man. I know you work diligently and care about our safety. I suggest taking a break and looking for someone to help you brew gear.
What do you mean Symptoms has one hand?
 
Hes all excuses bro. You've been on here long enough to know this is how it always kicks off. Ive seen good sources on here kick rocks for less...He can either bow out with some dignity or carry on like you said. Apparently his fan club has zero issues with contaminated vials. Odd....
His fan club just doesn’t want to see a good source go down: PPL never had to leave even though he lied about firing the brewer who put hair in his gear. Why Sym? He did not lie he did not try to cover anything up. He tried to work through personal health problems and made some mistakes.
 
I'm glad sym is making things right after his first slip with floaters.

However, if he now recalls seeing a issue with possible fibers, shouldn't he be even more careful to inspect his vials before shipping? He said it was months ago he bought the problem sheets but this doesn't excuse letting these, and probably more ship out. I personally expect a few more people to find floaters now as 2 or 3 have surfaced so far.

This brings back memories of gemstone and more recently greyscale, who was crucified over it. Everyone is going to feel differently and sym has had zero foreign object issues till now but I don't want to order from someone wondering if something other than oil is in my vials.

I plan on inspecting all my vials and would encourage others to do the same. That being said I would be interested in Syms opinion of how far back this may date and for how many products/compounds?

Does he feel it is exclusively test, npp and mast in MCT or is it likely that other products and GSO products are impacted?

I will obviously inspect just as someone who has a number of orders from him I am interested in how far back this dates and how widespread?

As you said it is only recently people have said stuff but I honestly stopped checking because I always found hiss products to be smooth and contaminant free.

I was going to email him this question but I felt it would be valuable for everyone so I posted it here.
 
You use primo on your blast and on your cruise? If you don’t mind me asking what do you run it at, and what benefits do you usually see from it, especially on a cruise?

No. I don’t have any experience with primo. I started running it and got about 3-4 weeks into it and the world shut down so I came off

Will be running it at 675mg for roughly 14 weeks soon and I’m still undecided on where I will dose it at with my trt afterwards
 
His fan club just doesn’t want to see a good source go down: PPL never had to leave even though he lied about firing the brewer who put hair in his gear. Why Sym? He did not lie he did not try to cover anything up. He tried to work through personal health problems and made some mistakes.
I dont know...I rarely look in a source thread these days. Prayers for Symptoms!
 
Then he should’ve bowed out and closed shop temporarily. But hey, keep sucking that Sym dick.
Yeah you say that now but none of you ever objected to it. You still all ordered with no problems and was happy he stayed around. As far as I’m concerned he stuck around for you all don’t be ungrateful my boy.
 
FWIW order placed 2 weeks ago of test cyp (gso) is ok. I know people are mentioning most recent orders, but wanted to add to the timeline.
 
His fan club just doesn’t want to see a good source go down: PPL never had to leave even though he lied about firing the brewer who put hair in his gear. Why Sym? He did not lie he did not try to cover anything up. He tried to work through personal health problems and made some mistakes.

You know ALL that stuff how? Cause Sym wrote and posted it so it must be true? From gods lips to your ears, huh?

How do you know he hasn’t had help? Most of these operations claim to be one person but it’s really 2-5 people. Oh that’s right, Sym wrote and posted it so it must be truth.

Good labs come and go. It’s not you, it’s them. There will be another to come along. And in the meantime we wait. We’re not a bunch of fucking junkies. Get a grip.
 
Yeah you say that now but none of you ever objected to it. You still all ordered with no problems and was happy he stayed around. As far as I’m concerned he stuck around for you all don’t be ungrateful my boy.
Never ordered a thing from the man. I have private sources I order from who inspect everything before they send it out. Don’t get me wrong - he did great with testing, professionalism, customer service and everything else but the man should have bowed out for a time to recoup but he didn’t. And it’s not because of US that he stuck around. To quote the man himself:

“In Summary

Please buy illegal drugs from me. They are really well made, they will help you reach your performance goals; and I need the money.”
 
I plan on inspecting all my vials and would encourage others to do the same. That being said I would be interested in Syms opinion of how far back this may date and for how many products/compounds?

Does he feel it is exclusively test, npp and mast in MCT or is it likely that other products and GSO products are impacted?

I will obviously inspect just as someone who has a number of orders from him I am interested in how far back this dates and how widespread?

As you said it is only recently people have said stuff but I honestly stopped checking because I always found hiss products to be smooth and contaminant free.

I was going to email him this question but I felt it would be valuable for everyone so I posted it here.
For whats it’s worth my NPP was GSO
 
Yeah you say that now but none of you ever objected to it. You still all ordered with no problems and was happy he stayed around. As far as I’m concerned he stuck around for you all don’t be ungrateful my boy.

We aren’t ungrateful. We’ve already talked about naming conference room 22B here at MESO headquarters in honor of SymBiotics. The only caveat is that only us bald guys are allowed to meet in there... we don’t want to have loose hair in it. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Good night folks, I’ll be here all weekend!
Hey-yo!
 
You know ALL that stuff how? Cause Sym wrote and posted it so it must be true? From gods lips to your ears, huh?

How do you know he hasn’t had help? Most of these operations claim to be one person but it’s really 2-5 people. Oh that’s right, Sym wrote and posted it so it must be truth.

Good labs come and go. It’s not you, it’s them. There will be another to come along. And in the meantime we wait. We’re not a bunch of fucking junkies. Get a grip.
I don’t accuse anyone of being a liar unless they give me a reason too. I don’t think Sym is lying about his health problems and it seems kind of paranoid to assume that he is also pointless since the privacy we all must maintain prevents us from really providing details about our personal life with each other. To say he is lying about health issues is basically saying he’s a POS and wasn’t trust worthy from the start. I go by his actions he’s provided gear of the upmost quality up until this point. But if you have evidence of him lying or anything that suggests he is being untruthful I will gladly hear you out.
 
Never ordered a thing from the man. I have private sources I order from who inspect everything before they send it out. Don’t get me wrong - he did great with testing, professionalism, customer service and everything else but the man should have bowed out for a time to recoup but he didn’t. And it’s not because of US that he stuck around. To quote the man himself:

“In Summary

Please buy illegal drugs from me. They are really well made, they will help you reach your performance goals; and I need the money.”
I agree he should have taken a step back but he chose to be a soldier and work through it for the sake of satisfying his customers. I’m just saying there’s no doubt in my mind that sums personal issues are the cause for his slip ups not that he lacks diligence because his actions beforehand prove that he does things the right way.
 
I don’t accuse anyone of being a liar unless they give me a reason too. I don’t think Sym is lying about his health problems and it seems kind of paranoid to assume that he is also pointless since the privacy we all must maintain prevents us from really providing details about our personal life with each other. To say he is lying about health issues is basically saying he’s a POS and wasn’t trust worthy from the start. I go by his actions he’s provided gear of the upmost quality up until this point. But if you have evidence of him lying or anything that suggests he is being untruthful I will gladly hear you out.

Dude. They all lie. You think he was 100% honest throughout?

He’s a biologist that spends a lot of time out in a boat

His wife is a pharmacist

He’s in his 50s

He’s got a teenage daughter that has a friend that wants to fuck him

A tree fell on his house

He has a remote lab built on property that’s out of the way

He had surgery

If he’s honest, you can see the digital map with the alphabet guys honing in on him right now in the movie.

OR he tells some stories to throw those alphabet guys off his track.

Which do you think is more likely? Which would you do?
 
Never ordered a thing from the man. I have private sources I order from who inspect everything before they send it out. Don’t get me wrong - he did great with testing, professionalism, customer service and everything else but the man should have bowed out for a time to recoup but he didn’t. And it’s not because of US that he stuck around. To quote the man himself:

“In Summary

Please buy illegal drugs from me. They are really well made, they will help you reach your performance goals; and I need the money.”

This thread is honestly getting out of control. Half the people begging to get on the exclusive list or vouching for him never even ordered from him in their own words. I personally have always had good orders and interactions with him but how can you say that or be so desperate to use his gear when you have never ordered from him??

Given my previous transactions I will probably wait to see how widespread the issue is and how it ends up being handled before "writing him off".

That being said I would advise him to "close ranks" and go private/exclusive sooner rather than later.

Literally everyday there are 2-3 people who cant even find his fucking email. If you cant find an order list or do a simple search you have no business ordering or using AAS and it is really just a security risk for everyone involved. It may result in short term sales but is not good for the long run.

The final thing I would add and I may be a little biased is that when it appeared I had gotten burned for a large amount of $ by a source. Sym sent me a message and offered to try and help me, actually offered to give me a fair amount of product to help make up for my loss. I declined because I did not want to be "indebted" to a source and I didn't feel this would be "right". I fully agree with those who say "don't get too close to drug dealers" etc but to me this does indicate some level of integrity as to that point I had only placed one fairly small order from him and it did not really benefit him in any way to offer to help me out. For this reason I will probably wait and see how everything plays out before making any final decisions.

I will update tomorrow with my findings once I am able to inspect everything. I would appreciate others doing the same, as the more honest opinions the more it benefits everyone.
 
Dude. They all lie. You think he was 100% honest throughout?

He’s a biologist that spends a lot of time out in a boat

His wife is a pharmacist

He’s in his 50s

He’s got a teenage daughter that has a friend that wants to fuck him

A tree fell on his house

He has a remote lab built on property that’s out of the way

He had surgery

If he’s honest, you can see the digital map with the alphabet guys honing in on him right now in the movie.

OR he tells some stories to throw those alphabet guys off his track.

Which do you think is more likely? Which would you do?
No doubt he would lie to throw the boys off his trail but I don’t see any reason to intentionally try to deceive his customers but yeah lying in that since makes sense why wouldn’t you?
 
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