SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

thinks have been acting fitzy here the last couple days... little glitches here and there... sym fucks up and the world falls apart.

edit: HARM REDUCTION. filter your gear and you're in the clear.... probably.
I'll be filtering my vials. all it takes (from what i gathered from BBBG is sterile, pre-capped, pre crimped vials (amazon) and syringe filters (also, amazon). found a good way to do it on youtube just look around, dude made it look fairly painless and streamlined (as streamlined as a slow ass process can be). hope this helped the noobs like me
I have a thread and Posted what BBBG told me in a PM. Super easy to do. Under homebrew
 
hey man yeah i think i did quote you then back spaced the text, could that make that happen? i do that quite often... i write a LOT more messages than i post. thats a good thing.

That is essentially what he said happened, and would cause this.
 
Hello everyone.
I am not completely sure of the reason for the angst regarding my not posting here since Saturday evening.
The last thing I read before logging off that day was a post by @BigBaldBeardGuy suggesting I take some time to design a strategy for correction. I considered that good advice and I have been working towards that.
Before any sort of plan for correction can begin; I must first isolate the problem to the best of my abilities. This process is occurring simultaneously with customer service through email. I will not conduct the business transactions on this open forum.
If I am missing some other thing that I need to type here before I have reached a decision for correction; please let me know.
If the general desire is for me to read comments and refute/react/respond in kind to aggressiveness-----you have the wrong guy for that. I generally attempt to use my time in ways that could contribute to forward progress; and arguing here would be truly counterproductive to that.

The only thing I know for certain about any of this is that the contents of the vials are sterile. No matter if someone posts a picture of a goldfish inside one of my vials; it will be a sterile goldfish. I say this because the vials were only open to air prior to being autoclaved. So contaminants entered in the non-sterile vial; and exited the autoclave as sterile unintended inclusions.

While I am working on resolution for this, I ask that you all please understand that i use the very same products as you all do. I don't make special items for myself or anything of the sort. I'm sure I don't use as much as some of you all; but I am still a part of the consumer population.

Also, I am unsure why it is necessary to curse me and/or call names. By this I mean: I have accepted full responsibility for all of this and I have arranged reparations and dealt with customer service all day. I have not left anyone in the cold and I am doing everything I can to get this taken care of.Basically, I am standing before you with my hat in my hand and repeating my apology---and you are still cursing me. I can't find the logic in that. I don't believe I can offer my blood over the internet; so if that is what is desired I do not believe satisfaction can be found. To my knowledge I have righted very wrong I have committed here and I have fixed problems that I didn't even create at times. I don't run from my mistakes and I don't make excuses.

If there is someone who contacted me and has not been satisfied by my response; then please post it here. Anyone who has contacted me and not received a reply will get a reply as soon as I can.

Someone suggested that I am still taking orders through email. I know for certain that this person has not contacted me because he would know that I activated my autoreply right after I logged off here on Saturday evening. I have not taken a single order since the weekend.

So, rather than reacting to aggression and speculation on the forum; I choose to investigate and formulate a plan. I will update here as soon as I know for certain that I am finished processing the information I am gathering.

I appreciate your patience while I work on a solution to this serious issue.
 
Sym is trying to make this right. Some of you need to give him a break. He is a good source. I will continue to support Sym as long as there is not another issue in the near future. NO ONE IS PERFECT!
If, Ifs and but's were candies and nuts, no one would be hungry. (Am I giving away my age here lol?)

It may be prudent to see what solutions and explanations he comes up with before defending him and pledging your undying loyalty.

I for one, will fuck off and not say another word if he....
A) fixes it for all his customers
B) Isolates the issue
C) Comes up with an action/correction plan to ensure this will no longer occur.

But like I've stated before, I have no skin in the game here.
Just the harm reduction aspect.

@SymBiotics
Do you know specifically what the floaters are?
Or potentially how it happened in the first place?

I will even go FAR FAR FAR against my better judgement here.........(Please remember, I'm.Canadian so I dont even buy his stuff and have no vested interest)

Give me a shout if it's a facility.based issue.
I'm an IPAC instructor/specialist... I solve these issues on a daily basis.

Fuck, i feel sick from saying that... but not taking it back if it can narrow down an issue.
 
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Been at this for 25 days so far. It’s not that bad when it’s warm cold is unbearable. Then again even when I was living in an apartment I had no furniture just slept on an air mattress so the only difference is I don’t have those walls for the time being.
You need to get off gear. Focus on working as many jobs as it takes to get your shit together. And stop riding Syms dick. If he cared as much about you, as you do him, he would be in here speaking for himself.
 
I think guys should be cursing and aggressive sym, they got gear that could lead to serious health risks, and you did that so don’t play the non responsive card and not interact with a community that supports you. Turn the negative into a positive and take the ass fuckin like a man. Look forward to hearing your solution because this is a very fine line, although I personally believe you will take the right measures to possibly correct and better your process to make sure this can’t and won’t happen again. Time will tell.
 
Hello everyone.
I am not completely sure of the reason for the angst regarding my not posting here since Saturday evening.
The last thing I read before logging off that day was a post by @BigBaldBeardGuy suggesting I take some time to design a strategy for correction. I considered that good advice and I have been working towards that.
Before any sort of plan for correction can begin; I must first isolate the problem to the best of my abilities. This process is occurring simultaneously with customer service through email. I will not conduct the business transactions on this open forum.
If I am missing some other thing that I need to type here before I have reached a decision for correction; please let me know.
If the general desire is for me to read comments and refute/react/respond in kind to aggressiveness-----you have the wrong guy for that. I generally attempt to use my time in ways that could contribute to forward progress; and arguing here would be truly counterproductive to that.

The only thing I know for certain about any of this is that the contents of the vials are sterile. No matter if someone posts a picture of a goldfish inside one of my vials; it will be a sterile goldfish. I say this because the vials were only open to air prior to being autoclaved. So contaminants entered in the non-sterile vial; and exited the autoclave as sterile unintended inclusions.

While I am working on resolution for this, I ask that you all please understand that i use the very same products as you all do. I don't make special items for myself or anything of the sort. I'm sure I don't use as much as some of you all; but I am still a part of the consumer population.

Also, I am unsure why it is necessary to curse me and/or call names. By this I mean: I have accepted full responsibility for all of this and I have arranged reparations and dealt with customer service all day. I have not left anyone in the cold and I am doing everything I can to get this taken care of.Basically, I am standing before you with my hat in my hand and repeating my apology---and you are still cursing me. I can't find the logic in that. I don't believe I can offer my blood over the internet; so if that is what is desired I do not believe satisfaction can be found. To my knowledge I have righted very wrong I have committed here and I have fixed problems that I didn't even create at times. I don't run from my mistakes and I don't make excuses.

If there is someone who contacted me and has not been satisfied by my response; then please post it here. Anyone who has contacted me and not received a reply will get a reply as soon as I can.

Someone suggested that I am still taking orders through email. I know for certain that this person has not contacted me because he would know that I activated my autoreply right after I logged off here on Saturday evening. I have not taken a single order since the weekend.

So, rather than reacting to aggression and speculation on the forum; I choose to investigate and formulate a plan. I will update here as soon as I know for certain that I am finished processing the information I am gathering.

I appreciate your patience while I work on a solution to this serious issue.
People cussed you because you put people's lives at risk because you slacked off. People have a right to be pissed off at you, and I mean very pissed!

And going ghost while your operation is burning and people are twisting in the wind was wrong. Get off your high horse cause you dont deserve to be up there anymore. Stay in touch and keep people updated about what you are going to do to make things right. I dont care if it was Sunday and you had to inconvenience yourself by logging on here, people would have felt a lot better seeing a "I'm working to find a solution to make everyone whole and a solution take care of the quality issues moving forward bare with me I will have answer forthcoming in the next 24 to 48hrs" but nope you didnt do that you left people wondering with anxiety and for that your an asshole simply put. Fix your fuck up and stop acting so righteous cause you clearly arent beyond reproach brother.

I'm done and gone now out if your thread for good. Unless you do dumb shit like this again then guy's like me will come back and we wont relent until you're gone.
 
People cussed you because you put people's lives at risk because you slacked off. People have a right to be pissed off at you, and I mean very pissed!

And going ghost while your operation is burning and people are twisting in the wind was wrong. Get off your high horse cause you dont deserve to be up there anymore. Stay in touch and keep people updated about what you are going to do to make things right. I dont care if it was Sunday and you had to inconvenience yourself by logging on here, people would have felt a lot better seeing a "I'm working to find a solution to make everyone whole and a solution take care of the quality issues moving forward bare with me I will have answer forthcoming in the next 24 to 48hrs" but nope you didnt do that you left people wondering with anxiety and for that your an asshole simply put. Fix your fuck up and stop acting so righteous cause you clearly arent beyond reproach brother.

I'm done and gone now out if your thread for good. Unless you do dumb shit like this again then guy's like me will come back and we wont relent until you're gone.
He didn't go ghost, he routinely doesn't surface here on sundays. Do I think he should have, yeah, but I was giving him till tonight to address the issues at hand. All affected members have had communication with him the last few days to resolve the products with floaters.

He obviously didn't have an answer, probably why he didn't make it a point to come by yesterday. Many of us are awaiting his next post, which should hopefully make everyone aware. If you're done with this thread, feel free to move on.
 
You need to get off gear. Focus on working as many jobs as it takes to get your shit together. And stop riding Syms dick. If he cared as much about you, as you do him, he would be in here speaking for himself.
I’m not running a cycle right now bro. Got to get back in the gym first right now I just been grinding it out as you said.
 
Somebody posted a few months back that they had gotten an infection from syms product, turned out it was just a another ugl trying to corner the market.
I’m not Einstein but with meso’s reputation of burning these fuckers at the stake, I think he would be pretty careful not to fuck it up. He stated he thought he took adequate measures to dispose of anything questionable, I tend to believe he knew what was at stake.

I’m just going to have my supply blessed by a rabbi and if an ass cheek falls off... maybe that was gods plan for me.


Be well
 
People cussed you because you put people's lives at risk because you slacked off. People have a right to be pissed off at you, and I mean very pissed!

And going ghost while your operation is burning and people are twisting in the wind was wrong. Get off your high horse cause you dont deserve to be up there anymore. Stay in touch and keep people updated about what you are going to do to make things right. I dont care if it was Sunday and you had to inconvenience yourself by logging on here, people would have felt a lot better seeing a "I'm working to find a solution to make everyone whole and a solution take care of the quality issues moving forward bare with me I will have answer forthcoming in the next 24 to 48hrs" but nope you didnt do that you left people wondering with anxiety and for that your an asshole simply put. Fix your fuck up and stop acting so righteous cause you clearly arent beyond reproach brother.

I'm done and gone now out if your thread for good. Unless you do dumb shit like this again then guy's like me will come back and we wont relent until you're gone.
What he said.

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It does seem like sym is addressing the issues and not just bouncing which I respect but you can't expect members not to be pissed when they purchase a product they hope to be clean but find a floater which could not only endanger them, but take them out of the GYM. The whole point is to enhance our lifting and lives, not destroy it . Hormones are not narcotics.

I was literally about to order and this happened. This always happens when i am about to order lol
 
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