SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

No, I believe it is “buts” as in “ifs, ands or buts”
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Is it possible to test a vial with a possible contaminant for bacteria?

Spider leg floater aside, could some of the little "specs" be either rubber stopper or gear coming out of solution?

I have not used this source. Just trying to learn bc I've experienced similar issues with other sources.
 
Is it possible to test a vial with a possible contaminant for bacteria?

Spider leg floater aside, could some of the little "specs" be either rubber stopper or gear coming out of solution?

I have not used this source. Just trying to learn bc I've experienced similar issues with other sources.
Only thing you can do is send it off for testing in which case you won’t get the product back.

As others have stated, you can re-filter the oil or trash it if you are worried.
 
It does seem like sym is addressing the issues and not just bouncing which I respect but you can't expect members not to be pissed when they purchase a product they hope to be clean but find a floater which could not only endanger them, but take them out of the GYM. The whole point is to enhance our lifting and lives, not destroy it . Hormones are not narcotics.

I was literally about to order and this happened. This always happens when i am about to order lol
Just order ur shit pretty positive sym won't fail this time -_-.
 
Seems floaters have been a problem since the get go. Got some trenE from the first batch that has a small black speck floating around. Was ordered back in December. A member (@limitphobic ) yesterday posted a picture that looks identical to what I saw in mine. It was literally the first vial I grabbed and when I saw it I threw it back in its place and walked away. When I get home this evening I’ll do a thorough inspection of all my Sym tren and get some pictures.

Just as with limitphobic pic it’s a very small black spec and if it wasn’t for current events and you didn’t know to look for it you probably wouldn’t of seen until you went to pull from the vial.
 
Is it possible to test a vial with a possible contaminant for bacteria?

Spider leg floater aside, could some of the little "specs" be either rubber stopper or gear coming out of solution?

I have not used this source. Just trying to learn bc I've experienced similar issues with other sources.

You mean Sym is the only lab that has floaters!?! You don’t say?

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Is it possible to test a vial with a possible contaminant for bacteria?

Spider leg floater aside, could some of the little "specs" be either rubber stopper or gear coming out of solution?

I have not used this source. Just trying to learn bc I've experienced similar issues with other sources.
The gear itself is “sterile” according to sym since it only could’ve happened pre autoclave. So I don’t think bacteria or some unseen substance is possible if what Sym says is true
 
@Silentlemon1011 did you notice a couple of my post got deleted from yesterday? You liked both of them
yup

@Millard Baker did however post that there would be disruptions before the weekend, so nothing suspicious or surprising there.

Maybe that info wasnt saved before a reset or something like that, I've noticed a few posts all around the board disappeared

I don't think there was any lost data. But I will check as I have no other explanation if you see missing posts...
I will post the latest updates on the missing data here:

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This whole situation showed me the power of this board. After reading 400 some pages, I decided I was comfortable enough to put an order in with Sym. After I had instructions on how to proceed with my order, I checked this thread one more time, and I logged in to see this whole floater/hair etc situation. I believe that was Friday maybe Saturday. Which saved me from moving forward with that order. Had to start over the process of finding somewhere I felt comfortable with again, but that actually wasn’t as hard as I thought. But the point is without with board I would of just proceeded with my order and who knows what could of happened. Appreciate everyone who came forward right away.
 
There's a pharmacopoeia method for testing liquid products on oil basis for bacterial and yeast contamination. Trying to perform it anywhere outside of a clean lab would yield completely useless results.

Agar plates are very bad idea.

Is that something you can do? Have u ever tested any of Sam's product for bacteria or yeast? Again, I'm just a curious member. I've never used this source. But it seems relevant to the topic to me.
 
This whole situation showed me the power of this board. After reading 400 some pages, I decided I was comfortable enough to put an order in with Sym. After I had instructions on how to proceed with my order, I checked this thread one more time, and I logged in to see this whole floater/hair etc situation. I believe that was Friday maybe Saturday. Which saved me from moving forward with that order. Had to start over the process of finding somewhere I felt comfortable with again, but that actually wasn’t as hard as I thought. But the point is without with board I would of just proceeded with my order and who knows what could of happened. Appreciate everyone who came forward right away.
If sym does what he says and fixes whatever issue that may have caused this then he’s just as good as any other domestic source on here. He could easily just disappear on everybody and not refund/replace the products with floaters. If anything this makes it more likely that future orders will be floater free from him.
 
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