SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[GrowingSeason36]

I’ve never ordered from Sym and I read for weeks/months how much people liked his gear, but there is other domestic options here on Meso where you don’t need to roll the dice like this.. so y take a chance with your health? I guess that’s what I dont understand. Yes the other options definitely cost more, but how can anyone complain about a little money over taking this kind of risk. Things may change but at this current time, I just can’t figure out why anyone is still considering ordering currently.

 

[Connor 25257]

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

 

[JC Grifter]

Havnt read past this yet.
But I was thinking the same thing.
It has to be foreign contamination.
I dont understand how stopper particulates or rust/iron/steel could play a role here.

I'll say this, just because an area LOOKS clean, doesnt mean it IS clean.
(Take an air sample and put in under a microscope... shit is like a horror story)

I also dont buy "Sterile chunks"
The basic reality is that your body will eat away and try to dispose of any foreign objects in your body, once your bodies defense mechanisms get past the exterior layer of said foreign object.... who's to say what happens.

I'm pretty confident in saying that this is an environmental/facility based issue.

Good catch.

So do we think the consensus is more likely it’s just the recently made oils that have the risk? Doesn’t sound like anyone had an issue with product bought last year or very early this year. And I don’t mean floaters, no comments about infections.

 

[Oldschool]

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

Oh shut up you fucking kid. Just shut the fuck up. This is what your mom would do to you if she read your posts.

 

[Villain]

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

Dude, you are off your rocker. You can’t differentiate between rented space and a paid board? Go over to BOP or ASF and see if there is a difference in how sources are treated here vs there. Go to Pharmacom’s thread here and see how I ripped them a few months back and tell me this is a paid board.

 

[Villain]

Oh shut up you fucking kid. Just shut the fuck up. This is what your mom would do to you if she read your posts. View attachment 133344

That’s what I’d do to him as well.

 

[Mdrock98]

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

Oh god, you were on your on your way up..

 

[jbil75]

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

Ummm I believe what you see when you scroll down is what’s called advertising. You expect Meso or other boards just to not have any type of revenue whatsoever?

 

[JC Grifter]

Oh god, you were on your on your way up..

Yeah that didn’t last long [emoji23]

 

[Mdrock98]

Yeah that didn’t last long [emoji23]

Lol. Figures. [emoji23]

 

[dokdonia]

So do we think the consensus is more likely it’s just the recently made oils that have the risk? Doesn’t sound like anyone had an issue with product bought last year or very early this year. And I don’t mean floaters, no comments about infections.

Since Sym hasn't stated otherwise and unless he does so, I would assume he's been using he same fiber shedding sterilization wraps from the beginning.

 

[Mdrock98]

Since Sym hasn't stated otherwise and unless he does so, I would assume he's been using he same fiber shedding sterilization wraps from the beginning.

I agree. Just some have got into the vials and some have not.

 

[ickyrica]

Oh shut up you fucking kid. Just shut the fuck up. This is what your mom would do to you if she read your posts. View attachment 133344

if that's his mom I'd let her do that to me, too.

 

[Oldschool]

if that's his mom I'd let her do that to me, too.

She is fucking hot!!!!

 

[Silentlemon1011]

So do we think the consensus is more likely it’s just the recently made oils that have the risk? Doesn’t sound like anyone had an issue with product bought last year or very early this year. And I don’t mean floaters, no comments about infections.

I cant say with absolute certainty as I've never been in his lab.
But there are a few things that IMHO play key factors.
The floaters are unlikely to make it through a needle into a syringe.
The EXTERIOR of the floats IS sterilized.
hence why BA is used.

I'm not saying that his gear will cause infections.
I'm saying it has a possibility and that the methodology and control of the lab environment is flawed.

Personally, if I were to have a lab, I'd have it under positive air pressure through a HEPA filter at all times.
Therefor any air entering your lab is cleaned down to .02UM... but that's just me.

All I'm saying is that I'm not particularly satisfied with the answer lol

 

[Mdrock98]

I cant say with absolute certainty as I've never been in his lab.
But there are a few things that IMHO play key factors.
The floaters are unlikely to make it through a needle into a syringe.
The EXTERIOR of the floats IS sterilized.
hence why BA is used.

I'm not saying that his gear will cause infections.
I'm saying it has a possibility and that the methodology and control of the lab environment is flawed.

Personally, if I were to have a lab, I'd have it under positive air pressure through a HEPA filter at all times.
Therefor any air entering your lab is cleaned down to .02UM... but that's just me.

All I'm saying is that I'm not particularly satisfied with the answer lol

Well shit bro. Let’s start a “go fund me” for your lab. I’m in

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

So now people are finally seeing that Meso is a paid board? Didn’t I say this months ago. Meso and key members are going to try and force you to a source that “pays to play” just scroll down to your screen and you’ll see plenty of paid sources. All of which are no good.

what the fuck did you just say. You actually had some traction going for you. Go play with your dads handgun.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

I don't interpret that message from his posts. I'm reading Sym's posts as saying "I see the contaminants and I don't believe they are harmful."

Ok, I should've thrown in a "god bless" at the end of that

 

[GrowingSeason36]

One thing I still am confused on is, he said he stands behind his return policy etc.. but then says he’s going to continue selling that gear at a discount. Does that mean it’s sold AS IS, and if you get a floater that was the risk for the discount? Or will he still be replacing or paying those customers back? Asking out of curiosity because I just was confused.

 

[Connor 25257]

what the fuck did you just say. You actually had some traction going for you. Go play with your dads handgun.

Okay, In all honesty here, my stepfather died yesterday from shooting himself with a shotgun in front of my own mother....I wasn’t very close to him, but let’s have a little bit of respect as the situation has been very bad over the last 24 hours. The fact that sick people like yourself find suicide jokes and suicide to be a “knee slapped” is disturbing. You probably don’t give af, but just thought id share that