SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I don’t fault him to much for the made up background story. I wouldn’t expect anyone to come here with any real details about their personal life. I just want them to have a clean lab, and know how to hold up their end of the bargain. I feel like that’s not too much to ask for but somehow these drug dealers can’t get that right

It’s the retards that believe the bullshit stories that are at fault.

Nothing that a UGL posts is honest and truthful.

 

[Sp2.0]

Lady Lucifers anabolics coming soon. We'd never suspect it.

 

[basco]

Had a boss like that. He wasn’t happy unless he fucked someone over. Every day. All week long. Then go to church and ask for forgiveness. Lol.

That’d be why he is a boss

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Serious question: why is there not a member-run source here?

Think about the cumulative knowledge on this forum. We have a lot of home brewers who make safe products for themselves. We have a few amateur (and maybe some actual professional) chemists here, too. We have guys who can set up the OPSEC, guys who can handle the customer orders, guys who can coordinate logistics. Instead of relying on a source—a stranger with no history and no track record of caring about the community—we could build our own damn machine. Nobody would get rich, there’s too many individuals working along the chain that need paid. But we’d have a crowdsourced, vetted supplier who would give buyers a damn near guaranteed quality product because it would be made by members and used by members. Is the real hurdle to that the irreconcilable issue of legal risk vs small monetary reward? Is that what I’m missing? Does nobody want to entangle themselves in a criminal conspiracy? If that’s the answer it makes perfect sense, but I’m just surprised it hasn’t been floated as a response to all the shit sources that have come through here over the years.

Anyway, just musing out loud since this thread seems to be an obituary at this point. Feel free to ignore me or tell me why I’m an idiot.

 

[basco]

Guess it’s that time.....View attachment 134333

Oh, hell yes!!

 

[sierrak1lo]

What if he came back and had refiltered all of his stock. Different color caps, stoppers, etc. Would that be considered a success for Meso and would anyone order from him or too late at this point?

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

What if he came back and had refiltered all of his stock. Different color caps, stoppers, etc. Would that be considered a success for Meso and would anyone order from him or too late at this point?

unless he posts wife tits I'm out.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

What if he came back and had refiltered all of his stock. Different color caps, stoppers, etc. Would that be considered a success for Meso and would anyone order from him or too late at this point?

I can only speak for myself. I would have to say it’s a no for me. When he sent out replacements for floater gear with more floaters that was the end. Knowing that his replacements were likely his best and last shot to prove that he was making changes you’d think he would have inspected those vials inside out and been damn sure they were clean. In fact, it would have made sense to take the time and eat the cost of refiltering whatever was being sent out as a replacement just to ensure that everyone saw he was doing his utmost to make things right. That’s...not what happened. Anyone who was on the fence before that was pushed down pretty quickly.

 

[Oldschool]

That’d be why he is a boss

Yea I hear you. Trying to be a boss and be fair to people never ends well. Lol.

 

[Sp2.0]

No, and when he tries to rebrand there's some sharp members here that'll catch any similarity and the feeding frenzy will begin.

 

[justanoob]

What if he came back and had refiltered all of his stock. Different color caps, stoppers, etc. Would that be considered a success for Meso and would anyone order from him or too late at this point?

No for me as well. I gave him a second chance when asking for a reship, and without even removing the seal i found a floater in the primo. I would i have preferred he refilter my stuff, but when sending out old stuff he couldn’t do the bare minimum and glance at the vials and see if there’s anything floating in there? that took me less then 10 seconds to find.

 

[cochino]

Serious question: why is there not a member-run source here?

Think about the cumulative knowledge on this forum. We have a lot of home brewers who make safe products for themselves. We have a few amateur (and maybe some actual professional) chemists here, too. We have guys who can set up the OPSEC, guys who can handle the customer orders, guys who can coordinate logistics. Instead of relying on a source—a stranger with no history and no track record of caring about the community—we could build our own damn machine. Nobody would get rich, there’s too many individuals working along the chain that need paid. But we’d have a crowdsourced, vetted supplier who would give buyers a damn near guaranteed quality product because it would be made by members and used by members. Is the real hurdle to that the irreconcilable issue of legal risk vs small monetary reward? Is that what I’m missing? Does nobody want to entangle themselves in a criminal conspiracy? If that’s the answer it makes perfect sense, but I’m just surprised it hasn’t been floated as a response to all the shit sources that have come through here over the years.

Anyway, just musing out loud since this thread seems to be an obituary at this point. Feel free to ignore me or tell me why I’m an idiot.

It sounds good in theory but because of the legal risk as you stated, I don't see it happening.

 

[Akimopio]

He had a chance to make things right after the issues first came to light, instead of just doing the most logical thing in re-filtering or trashing his current finished products he got combative and acted as if we were being unreasonable. He somewhat downplayed the issue and acted as if it was something very minor which is a big middle finger to all of his customers. And replacement orders containing floaters as well, which is ridiculous

 

[str8edge73]

No member ran board period...
Creates greed..
I love the vetting process, most needed, anyway I've ordered sym a couple of times with no issue but I have the batch of cyp and npp with no floaters but I straight refuse to put in my body... I had contact like every one else was promised reship like 2 weeks ago but now crickets

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Serious question: why is there not a member-run source here?

Think about the cumulative knowledge on this forum. We have a lot of home brewers who make safe products for themselves. We have a few amateur (and maybe some actual professional) chemists here, too. We have guys who can set up the OPSEC, guys who can handle the customer orders, guys who can coordinate logistics. Instead of relying on a source—a stranger with no history and no track record of caring about the community—we could build our own damn machine. Nobody would get rich, there’s too many individuals working along the chain that need paid. But we’d have a crowdsourced, vetted supplier who would give buyers a damn near guaranteed quality product because it would be made by members and used by members. Is the real hurdle to that the irreconcilable issue of legal risk vs small monetary reward? Is that what I’m missing? Does nobody want to entangle themselves in a criminal conspiracy? If that’s the answer it makes perfect sense, but I’m just surprised it hasn’t been floated as a response to all the shit sources that have come through here over the years.

Anyway, just musing out loud since this thread seems to be an obituary at this point. Feel free to ignore me or tell me why I’m an idiot.

Sounds like a great idea. We can run it out of your home!

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

What if he came back and had refiltered all of his stock. Different color caps, stoppers, etc. Would that be considered a success for Meso and would anyone order from him or too late at this point?

Too fucking late.

Jesus. These breakups take forever! Go have rebound sex with another source.

 

[4Figgy]

I was scrolling at work, on lunch, had to take a look over my shoulder before taking another look lol

Hey, I gotta keep an eye out for the wife too when providing stuff like this

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

No, and when he tries to rebrand there's some sharp members here that'll catch any similarity and the feeding frenzy will begin.

You really think he has the ego to come back here as a rebrand? I’d think he would rebrand and head over to SST, PM, et al. If he shows up with pictures of his stock and a little cursory explanation of his brewing process he’ll sell the shit out of his stuff. Lower standards, higher sales.

 

[Sp2.0]

You really think he has the ego to come back here as a rebrand? I’d think he would rebrand and head over to SST, PM, et al. If he shows up with pictures of his stock and a little cursory explanation of his brewing process he’ll sell the shit out of his stuff. Lower standards, higher sales.

It's happened plenty of times here so it's likely he'd try. No board fees and high traffic seems to be irresistible to some.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Sounds like a great idea. We can run it out of your home!

And this gets us back to where we started, which is this: sources know that they have an advantage because very few of us are stupid enough to take on such massive risk. If you want to know why other boards (and sometimes this one) are filled with dick-riders it’s because almost nobody is willing to step up. It’s why even the worst sources end up getting some number of orders before being run out of town.