SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

Damn, this shit really popped off with Sym. I guess I’m here to add that I too got some vials of test that were dirty. He gave me the same run around “blah, blah..it’s sterile. You’re fine to use it.” But he did end up replacing the vials that were dirty. Now I’m apprehensive on even using the vials that appear to be clean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as filtering goes? Don’t really feel like pisssing my money down the drain lol.
 
Serious question: why is there not a member-run source here?

Think about the cumulative knowledge on this forum. We have a lot of home brewers who make safe products for themselves. We have a few amateur (and maybe some actual professional) chemists here, too. We have guys who can set up the OPSEC, guys who can handle the customer orders, guys who can coordinate logistics. Instead of relying on a source—a stranger with no history and no track record of caring about the community—we could build our own damn machine. Nobody would get rich, there’s too many individuals working along the chain that need paid. But we’d have a crowdsourced, vetted supplier who would give buyers a damn near guaranteed quality product because it would be made by members and used by members. Is the real hurdle to that the irreconcilable issue of legal risk vs small monetary reward? Is that what I’m missing? Does nobody want to entangle themselves in a criminal conspiracy? If that’s the answer it makes perfect sense, but I’m just surprised it hasn’t been floated as a response to all the shit sources that have come through here over the years.

Anyway, just musing out loud since this thread seems to be an obituary at this point. Feel free to ignore me or tell me why I’m an idiot.

I know of one right now and if I went over the first few pages of the Underground I would think I could pick out another....whether or not the second is active now is another story.
Since the Underground opened in 2012 we have had members give sourcing a shot. My common sense says that there has to have been more as well.
Just remembered another source opened and operated by another meso member. The one I just thought of isn't a ugl and doesn't brew anything. He's mostly PCT type stuff.
The first one I spoke of started off just like you thought it might. He was a home brewer and a guy who has been a member at meso for more than 4 yrs but less than 10 yrs.
If I was going to open a ugl and source here the last thing I would probably do is tell you guys! Well...I think I would let some know...but it would probably be a good idea for most guys to keep it to themselves. Things are never the same again. We give members who become reps the business....a member who started brewing and processing payments is gonna be tossed around and worked over something fierce.

It’s good to see again Ben.

A couple of us were asking for you in a thread. I was really worried about you with the way things are out there. You made my week seeing you here. Sent you my contacts..don't hesitate.
 
A couple of us were asking for you in a thread. I was really worried about you with the way things are out there. You made my week seeing you here. Sent you my contacts..don't hesitate.[/QUOTE]
Good to see you hadn’t forgot about me.
Just been out of the game. My life went in a Direction I hadn’t planned on.
I’m still kicking and have so much to catch up with you on.
 
Damn, this shit really popped off with Sym. I guess I’m here to add that I too got some vials of test that were dirty. He gave me the same run around “blah, blah..it’s sterile. You’re fine to use it.” But he did end up replacing the vials that were dirty. Now I’m apprehensive on even using the vials that appear to be clean.

Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as filtering goes? Don’t really feel like pisssing my money down the drain lol.
There is a post dedicated to this, it's probably back a few pages by now called floaters or search filter in this post it's been covered a few times.
 
I’m confident the gyms by me will never be opening. And if they do, our retard of a governor will quickly shut them back down. By the time they could legitimately open, they will all be out of business
Damn. What state do you live in? I live in the most conservative area in NC and our sheriff said he would NOT be enforcing and I quote “Governor Coopers retarted, liberal orders” that is the advantage to living in a small area in any state, especially in the south. You kind of have more of a “speak easy”. I do believe the only states with closed gyms are NJ, NC and Connecticut. It’s actually pathetic. I believe there have been two studies showing ZERO outbreaks in gyms across the United States. As a libertarian, shit like this is why I’m going to mainly be voting red this year.
 
Maybe I missed it since this thread has been pretty crazy lately lol but does anyone know how far back these floaters date? My pack was the first to be brought to attention, but I’m wondering do we know if this issue has been around for weeks, or months and just gone unnoticed? Maybe you know @BigBaldBeardGuy
 
Damn. What state do you live in? I live in the most conservative area in NC and our sheriff said he would NOT be enforcing and I quote “Governor Coopers retarted, liberal orders” that is the advantage to living in a small area in any state, especially in the south. You kind of have more of a “speak easy”. I do believe the only states with closed gyms are NJ, NC and Connecticut. It’s actually pathetic. I believe there have been two studies showing ZERO outbreaks in gyms across the United States. As a libertarian, shit like this is why I’m going to mainly be voting red this year.
California too
 
I know it’s happened, I just cannot imagine the ego that would be required to attempt that. I’m pretty sure you’re right, but it’s just too stupid for me to wrap my head around.
Is it really that stupid? Because the forum members (many of them) are willing to place orders.


It’s an insanely good idea. At this point I think he’ll just want to dump as much of his supply as physically possible with zero regard to anything but the money in his pocket.
 
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