Think you quoted T-Bags not Balco. Balco needs to shut up now as he made his statement.
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bootylicker69
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@Masterofron What you're saying is actually true. I got paid a visit too, but from a different vendor on here. Order at your own risk.
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
Which vendor and was it recent?
i'm wondering if the rat hacker is doing more than just ratting out websites to ICANN?
Edit: Saw your other post. i'm assuming that's why you said not to order?
bootylicker69
Member
From the infamous guaiacol spill. Just like how the incident folded with Masterofron . Package was out for delivery and got stuck "awaiting for scan".
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
New working theory.
The rat hacker is threatening sources via email, but the sources laugh at him because he's fugly, gay and has a tiny penis.
He places a small order and has it sent to law enforcement, (he did claim to have done this already) they then hand the case over to postal inspectors, because, really, like the police have time for this kinda stupid shit?
They begin snagging packages from the same origin area that have the same or similar return address, then start knocking on doors and seeing if they can get someone to sing like a canary.
Again, working theory that's open to speculation, correction and reworking, but i think we're on to something here.
The rat hacker is threatening sources via email, but the sources laugh at him because he's fugly, gay and has a tiny penis.
He places a small order and has it sent to law enforcement, (he did claim to have done this already) they then hand the case over to postal inspectors, because, really, like the police have time for this kinda stupid shit?
They begin snagging packages from the same origin area that have the same or similar return address, then start knocking on doors and seeing if they can get someone to sing like a canary.
Again, working theory that's open to speculation, correction and reworking, but i think we're on to something here.
This makes some sense as symbiotics had a run in with the extortionist a few weeks ago, allowing enough time for such a situation to unfold with LE. I don’t know if GSL (guaiacol spill labs) was ever targeted by the extortionist, especially considering his “discord sourcing”, but who knows..
@bootylicker69 Thanks for the update, stay safe. Also @balco now is seriously your time to shut the fuck up. Lol
TheObjective1
New Member
Okay glad I did not make an order my mother passed from cancer. Am So everything personal went offline for me. So from what I read sym. Is no longer a source to do not email him or anything he is done correct?
Night_Owl
Well-known Member
TheObjective1
New Member
Thank you brother been very rough i went radio silent on this baord and emails . i was and still overwhelmed time to stick with my orgi. Source and also try out Titanium. Been reading allot of good things
Something worth noting, the feds can come back and make an arrest at a later date.
Law enforcement is on meso and other forums in various shapes and sizes and with varying intent.
Corrections officers, local and state police, and a US Marshal round out where, the men I know personally, work in law enforcement and are members of online steroid and bb'ing forums. And, to my knowledge, none of them are involved in any open investigations. Its part of their rec time. There certainly are other members of LE that are cruising the boards at various times. Its anyones guess as to what prompts the beginning of an investigation? Maybe its receiving an unsolicited pm to a member on a forum who happens to also be a leo? Case in point;
Dynasty Labs, owned and operated by a former Philly cop, sent out mass pm's to members one of who was LE. That email was send to all musclechemistry.co* members in September 2016. The second order by mc member and leo was placed and shipped in May of 2017.
Both orders were shipped from Nevada to Maryland and are the only vials that the owner is going to serve time for after he is sentenced this coming November.
Trust me when I tell you there was a lot of other business conducted in between Sep 2016 and Jan 2018 when Dynasty owner and bagman George Sambuca was arrested for those 2 orders.
In fact approximately 1 month before his arrest, Sambuca was paid a visit by federal law enforcement agents and he was questioned in regards to Dynasty Labs. I know because I spoke with him prior to that visit and after.
He felt as if he was going to be ok because he was questioned and then allowed to go on his way. He had no idea that he was doomed by shipping that order a year and a half earlier.
The way the feds are handling ugl's has changed in the last 2 to 3 years. Used to be when I would see the length of prison terms being meted out 24 to 36 months seemed to be the norm.
Lately, investigations have have run as long as 2 and, in one case I am familiar with, almost 3 yrs. And prison sentences bumping up to 5, 6, 7, and in Musclehead 320's case, 10yrs.
The longer investigations are more expensive to conduct and therefore I would imagine are expected to bring longer prison terms, bigger fines, and more forfeiture's of cash and property tied to the proceeds of the criminal activities of those indicted.
The new charge seen after these longer investigations and that brings the longer prison terms and incresed fines and forfeiture's is Money Laundering.
I came into Symbiotic's thread at the very end. My guess with the involvement of LE that we've seen with visits to the addresses where packs were sent is that the man behind the operation is doomed. I don't see LE tipping their hand if they don't know where to find him.
I also would bet a large wager that he isn't LE himself.
I can see the feds busting him and then taking over his operation themselves. I don't see them allowing him to remain on the outs with a handler to take orders from meso members. He would not be generating enough income to justify that type of thing. He wasn't serving the Russian Olympians competing in the upcoming Olympics. He's turning out relatively small dollar amount orders with a small # of vials. They would, in all likelihood, shut him down, take what they wanted, and put him in a cage for a few years. He just isn't well enough established. He is small time. LE counts a successful calendar yr many ways. Total # of busts is one of the oldest ways. With Symb its a quick hit for LE. Keeping him out for the small # of orders he is filling and waiting for him to get bigger hoping for something big to happen doesn't make sense to me.
Lets remember that the individual behind the criminal activity plays a big role in the decisions LE makes in regards to even opening an investigation. Dynasty was a former leo already convicted federally for distributing aas.
Musclechead previously served time for cocaine distribution. I dont know this guys past but selling on an open board for the amount of time he did tells me he was just getting going.
I do think sourcing on an open board like meso, eroids, and promuscle is a ridiculous thing to do.
Its safer to be a ugl selling gear today rather than 15yrs ago. I base that solely on the sheer # of ugl's selling openly online. So many more compared to back then. Still, if your ugl is the unlucky one, and I bet luck has a lot to do with it, your fucked along with your life.
What is it besides luck that makes a ugl the focus of LE? Well, if we take what we've seen with the new member we've decided isn't a hacker and is just a Rat, and apply it to ugl's I would say a complaint in the form of a well written letter or anonymous tip from a pissed off customer or hater claiming they were injured by a product sold by a ugl might do it?
That, or an unsolicited email to a leo passing some of his free time online.
Law enforcement is on meso and other forums in various shapes and sizes and with varying intent.
Corrections officers, local and state police, and a US Marshal round out where, the men I know personally, work in law enforcement and are members of online steroid and bb'ing forums. And, to my knowledge, none of them are involved in any open investigations. Its part of their rec time. There certainly are other members of LE that are cruising the boards at various times. Its anyones guess as to what prompts the beginning of an investigation? Maybe its receiving an unsolicited pm to a member on a forum who happens to also be a leo? Case in point;
Dynasty Labs, owned and operated by a former Philly cop, sent out mass pm's to members one of who was LE. That email was send to all musclechemistry.co* members in September 2016. The second order by mc member and leo was placed and shipped in May of 2017.
Both orders were shipped from Nevada to Maryland and are the only vials that the owner is going to serve time for after he is sentenced this coming November.
Trust me when I tell you there was a lot of other business conducted in between Sep 2016 and Jan 2018 when Dynasty owner and bagman George Sambuca was arrested for those 2 orders.
In fact approximately 1 month before his arrest, Sambuca was paid a visit by federal law enforcement agents and he was questioned in regards to Dynasty Labs. I know because I spoke with him prior to that visit and after.
He felt as if he was going to be ok because he was questioned and then allowed to go on his way. He had no idea that he was doomed by shipping that order a year and a half earlier.
The way the feds are handling ugl's has changed in the last 2 to 3 years. Used to be when I would see the length of prison terms being meted out 24 to 36 months seemed to be the norm.
Lately, investigations have have run as long as 2 and, in one case I am familiar with, almost 3 yrs. And prison sentences bumping up to 5, 6, 7, and in Musclehead 320's case, 10yrs.
The longer investigations are more expensive to conduct and therefore I would imagine are expected to bring longer prison terms, bigger fines, and more forfeiture's of cash and property tied to the proceeds of the criminal activities of those indicted.
The new charge seen after these longer investigations and that brings the longer prison terms and incresed fines and forfeiture's is Money Laundering.
I came into Symbiotic's thread at the very end. My guess with the involvement of LE that we've seen with visits to the addresses where packs were sent is that the man behind the operation is doomed. I don't see LE tipping their hand if they don't know where to find him.
I also would bet a large wager that he isn't LE himself.
I can see the feds busting him and then taking over his operation themselves. I don't see them allowing him to remain on the outs with a handler to take orders from meso members. He would not be generating enough income to justify that type of thing. He wasn't serving the Russian Olympians competing in the upcoming Olympics. He's turning out relatively small dollar amount orders with a small # of vials. They would, in all likelihood, shut him down, take what they wanted, and put him in a cage for a few years. He just isn't well enough established. He is small time. LE counts a successful calendar yr many ways. Total # of busts is one of the oldest ways. With Symb its a quick hit for LE. Keeping him out for the small # of orders he is filling and waiting for him to get bigger hoping for something big to happen doesn't make sense to me.
Lets remember that the individual behind the criminal activity plays a big role in the decisions LE makes in regards to even opening an investigation. Dynasty was a former leo already convicted federally for distributing aas.
Musclechead previously served time for cocaine distribution. I dont know this guys past but selling on an open board for the amount of time he did tells me he was just getting going.
I do think sourcing on an open board like meso, eroids, and promuscle is a ridiculous thing to do.
Its safer to be a ugl selling gear today rather than 15yrs ago. I base that solely on the sheer # of ugl's selling openly online. So many more compared to back then. Still, if your ugl is the unlucky one, and I bet luck has a lot to do with it, your fucked along with your life.
What is it besides luck that makes a ugl the focus of LE? Well, if we take what we've seen with the new member we've decided isn't a hacker and is just a Rat, and apply it to ugl's I would say a complaint in the form of a well written letter or anonymous tip from a pissed off customer or hater claiming they were injured by a product sold by a ugl might do it?
That, or an unsolicited email to a leo passing some of his free time online.
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Glocker
Member
Not challenging anything you are saying in fact i never agree with anything that comes out of balco's keyboard but I do have to ask; Why did you come on here jumping around in your underwear waving your flag loud and proud drawing attention to yourself knowing that as far as Masterofron goes your anonymity has been blown with LE allowing for easy surveillance going forward? Maybe feds move on but since you decided to befriend them and opened the door wearing your stringer-T with "FU@K PAIN" inked across your chest maybe they toss your busted parcel to the the local leos who have a di@k-head sergeant looking for a promotion with a steroid bust so you are here out in the open laying the groundwork for them. Why is that.
Glocker
Member
This is golden - next time I am staring down at 5-10 years I'll just cooperate and it will all go away.
Still trying to figure out which end of the spectrum you're on.
Uglyrichie
Member
Just tried to quote and got a me so survey or if I got questions thing did I hit a wrong button or is this normal
Did you order before or after “Mr guaicol” had his surgery?
The brain dead spectrum
This story seems to be going down a deep rabbit hole...getting weirder and weirder!
This could actually have some merit...just sayin
That's plausible as two people already got visits from postal inspectors (they are LE also). There could well be more happening soon and this now is more than enough warning to members to clean up their emails and such.
You need to breathe and calm down. Nobody knows if bootylicker69 was visited recently or months ago. AA supposedly hasn’t shipped anything in a month because he hasn’t been heard from. Supposedly had surgery.
Aight.
mdhx3
Banned
[THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN COMPROMISED BY A THIRD-PARTY. IT HAS BEEN TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED.]
The joke is that I had him hacked but I didn't knew it. He hadn't started the business when I took a look at his account, what a shame!!!!
Anyway, this is his personal account. Symbiotics I have all your shit, you better tell PurplePanda to pay 2500$ here
1A2hw6eBkKWGHxwW5DbNUU8ordN9azMVJj
Or maybe you can pay for him. You know your protonmail address you used with this account Symbiotics? If you want another address more private or maybe some monero you know where to find me.
The joke is all of you guys. No 2FA, same passwords everywhere.. I have all your addresses and they will be pastebined multiple times if PurplePanda doesn't pay.
Masteron I should send you some fentanyl biatch.
Anyway, this is his personal account. Symbiotics I have all your shit, you better tell PurplePanda to pay 2500$ here
1A2hw6eBkKWGHxwW5DbNUU8ordN9azMVJj
Or maybe you can pay for him. You know your protonmail address you used with this account Symbiotics? If you want another address more private or maybe some monero you know where to find me.
The joke is all of you guys. No 2FA, same passwords everywhere.. I have all your addresses and they will be pastebined multiple times if PurplePanda doesn't pay.
Masteron I should send you some fentanyl biatch.
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