T3 during a bulking cycle

[g-protein]

There seems to be very little information on using T3 during a bulk. Some argue it could be beneficial to add T3 to a bulking cycle in moderate doses (25-50 µg) due to it's ability to increase protein turnover rate and supposedly increase nutrition partitioning.

Has anyone here ran T3 during a bulk and if so, did you feel it had any benefits, or if it actually hindered your gains? What dosage did you use?

I'm rather interested in this topic as I'm on thyroid meds due to hypothyroidism.

 

[88general88]

First things first.
What are u currently taking for your thyroid and the dose?? And how long has you physician had you on the current protocol?
What compounds are you contemplating on using for your bulk??

 

[g-protein]

I'm not sure why that is of any importance, but I've been on the same protocol for the last 4 years. 125 mcg T4 + 25 mcg T3 every day, keeps me at bottom of the range. Doc doesn't want to up the doses, as doing so could lead to him getting in trouble.. Things are pretty fucked up regarding the usage of T3 in my country. I'm lucky to even have this small amount of T3 prescribed. But that's another story, let's not get too offtopic here.

As for the bulk, I'll be using 750 test and 500 deca per week.

I'm more interested to hear others experiences about this topic.

Edit: I've tried running T3 at 50 µg for a few weeks some time ago. That put me right at the upper end of the reference range after taking the dose 2 hours prior the test. Due to the short half-life of the drug, my T3 level probably crashes back to the lower end of the range in less than a day. I'd assume having my T3 level closer to the upper end would be better than having it at the lower end, as T3 would speed up pretty much every process in the body, right? So maybe in my case I could benefit from taking a slightly higher dose of T3 during the bulk?

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Hey g-protein,, I take T3 on bulking cycles as well as cutting cycles and I can tell you now its a really great compound to take on any cycle. I feel it has a synergy effect with steroids. Its really a compound that is underrated. I don't understand why bodybuilders don't use this compound on any cycle. (Its just like going on a cycle without eating proper food if you don't take T3). For me,, it actually enables me to eat more food then usual,,,, and at the same time,, it helps keeps me lean. The muscle definition really stands out with this compound. And if you use this compound during a cutting phase with tren, winstrol and clen,,,,, holy shit,,,, It will just make you look like your one week away from a bodybuilding competition show. You can use this compound for long periods of time and your T3 levels go back to normal when you are off. As for dosage,, I will slowly taper up to 50mcg a day,, and taper of slowly. I usually start to taper off during PCT,, and I go off completely about two weeks after PCT.

 

[Delt123]

I know a couple of my close friends did, makes it rather hard hard to gain weight. They were eating a fuckton but had a hard time gaining.

 

[master.on]

There seems to be very little information on using T3 during a bulk. Some argue it could be beneficial to add T3 to a bulking cycle in moderate doses (25-50 µg) due to it's ability to increase protein turnover rate and supposedly increase nutrition partitioning.

Has anyone here ran T3 during a bulk and if so, did you feel it had any benefits, or if it actually hindered your gains? What dosage did you use?

I'm rather interested in this topic as I'm on thyroid meds due to hypothyroidism.

Steroids increase metabolism by increasing T4 to T3 conversion so additional T3 may result in an hypermetabolic state.

 

[bigrobbie]

I'm not sure why that is of any importance, but I've been on the same protocol for the last 4 years. 125 mcg T4 + 25 mcg T3 every day, keeps me at bottom of the range. Doc doesn't want to up the doses, as doing so could lead to him getting in trouble.. Things are pretty fucked up regarding the usage of T3 in my country. I'm lucky to even have this small amount of T3 prescribed. But that's another story, let's not get too offtopic here.

As for the bulk, I'll be using 750 test and 500 deca per week.

I'm more interested to hear others experiences about this topic.

Edit: I've tried running T3 at 50 µg for a few weeks some time ago. That put me right at the upper end of the reference range after taking the dose 2 hours prior the test. Due to the short half-life of the drug, my T3 level probably crashes back to the lower end of the range in less than a day. I'd assume having my T3 level closer to the upper end would be better than having it at the lower end, as T3 would speed up pretty much every process in the body, right? So maybe in my case I could benefit from taking a slightly higher dose of T3 during the bulk?

For the record, he was asking some background and for additional information so he can have all the facts together so that he gives you a proper response/information. If its a problem for him to ask you a question you can ignore him...@ 88GENERAL88 is not going to steer you wrong. Let the process happen bro...

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Heres my personal experience.
On cycle or with HGH, up the T4 remain constant at 30sh mcgs
Off cycle 50 Mcg T3.. around 100 Mcg T4.

My reasoning.
Up until my next cycle (looking forward to it, trying something different)
I want to put on... fucking... muscle.
I drop the T3, because I have difficulty consuming the necessary calories to make the most of my cycle.
I understand that its. it a MASSIVE difference... but I'll take all the help I can get.
I dint care if I out some fat on during cycle.. I cut it between blasts.

 

[g-protein]

Thank you all for the replies. I might try going for the 50mcg on my bulk and see how it goes. I don't have trouble getting in enough calories, so that's not a problem.

For the record, he was asking some background and for additional information so he can have all the facts together so that he gives you a proper response/information. If its a problem for him to ask you a question you can ignore him...@ 88GENERAL88 is not going to steer you wrong. Let the process happen bro...

Sorry if I came across as rude, that was certainly not my intention. Looking back now, I should've worded my response more carefully, but I was in a hurry when writing it. I appreciate everyone who takes the time to write a response and share their thoughts and knowledge.

 

[mands]

Hey g-protein,, I take T3 on bulking cycles as well as cutting cycles and I can tell you now its a really great compound to take on any cycle. I feel it has a synergy effect with steroids. Its really a compound that is underrated. I don't understand why bodybuilders don't use this compound on any cycle. (Its just like going on a cycle without eating proper food if you don't take T3). For me,, it actually enables me to eat more food then usual,,,, and at the same time,, it helps keeps me lean. The muscle definition really stands out with this compound. And if you use this compound during a cutting phase with tren, winstrol and clen,,,,, holy shit,,,, It will just make you look like your one week away from a bodybuilding competition show. You can use this compound for long periods of time and your T3 levels go back to normal when you are off. As for dosage,, I will slowly taper up to 50mcg a day,, and taper of slowly. I usually start to taper off during PCT,, and I go off completely about two weeks after PCT.

Why taper? And being on Tren, Winstrol and Clen you can really notice adding t3?

mands

 

[88general88]

I'm not sure why that is of any importance, but I've been on the same protocol for the last 4 years. 125 mcg T4 + 25 mcg T3 every day, keeps me at bottom of the range. Doc doesn't want to up the doses, as doing so could lead to him getting in trouble.. Things are pretty fucked up regarding the usage of T3 in my country. I'm lucky to even have this small amount of T3 prescribed. But that's another story, let's not get too offtopic here.

As for the bulk, I'll be using 750 test and 500 deca per week.

I'm more interested to hear others experiences about this topic.

Edit: I've tried running T3 at 50 µg for a few weeks some time ago. That put me right at the upper end of the reference range after taking the dose 2 hours prior the test. Due to the short half-life of the drug, my T3 level probably crashes back to the lower end of the range in less than a day. I'd assume having my T3 level closer to the upper end would be better than having it at the lower end, as T3 would speed up pretty much every process in the body, right? So maybe in my case I could benefit from taking a slightly higher dose of T3 during the bulk?

Hey buddy, been super busy as of the late. My reasoning behind asking you is because there comes to be a point where you can actually end up burning out your thyroid. So if your current protocol was already maxed like 200/100 t4/t3 then I would strongly advise against any more use there is a reason behind there being a limit. Not sure what country you are In but that sucks about them limiting your t3 consumption however, I would probably say that I live in a country where healthcare is provided, with that being said screwing with thyroid can cause many issue and could be very expensive in the long run is a country had to care fore someone with permanent damage, because of how it effects so many other aspects of ones health. Tbh, I think it’s a bad idea. For you to tango with your thyroid any further then you already are. I. Your specific situation I think that it will cause More harm then good. The advice that was given to you by the hack, was absolutely ridiculous and he is not looking at the big picture. Although there is some truth to what he said, the keyword, is SOME, truth. Anyone supplementing with exogenous thyroid, should never just stop taking it. It’s one thing to hop on a dose, but one should always titrate off. I know my opinion is not one you wanted to hear, but this site is really about harm reduction, I think that a lot of the time that is forgotten about. I don’t know you but I know that the advice I gave to you is the same advice I would give to a loved one. I would rather know that my opinions and advice are doing good long term rather than short term and creating major health issues in the long.

 

[g-protein]

Hey buddy, been super busy as of the late. My reasoning behind asking you is because there comes to be a point where you can actually end up burning out your thyroid. So if your current protocol was already maxed like 200/100 t4/t3 then I would strongly advise against any more use there is a reason behind there being a limit. Not sure what country you are In but that sucks about them limiting your t3 consumption however, I would probably say that I live in a country where healthcare is provided, with that being said screwing with thyroid can cause many issue and could be very expensive in the long run is a country had to care fore someone with permanent damage, because of how it effects so many other aspects of ones health. Tbh, I think it’s a bad idea. For you to tango with your thyroid any further then you already are. I. Your specific situation I think that it will cause More harm then good. The advice that was given to you by the hack, was absolutely ridiculous and he is not looking at the big picture. Although there is some truth to what he said, the keyword, is SOME, truth. Anyone supplementing with exogenous thyroid, should never just stop taking it. It’s one thing to hop on a dose, but one should always titrate off. I know my opinion is not one you wanted to hear, but this site is really about harm reduction, I think that a lot of the time that is forgotten about. I don’t know you but I know that the advice I gave to you is the same advice I would give to a loved one. I would rather know that my opinions and advice are doing good long term rather than short term and creating major health issues in the long.

Thank you for replying. Don't worry, i understand where you're coming from and you are absolutely right, i probably shouldn't mess around with my thyroid any further.

 

[mands]

Thank you for replying. Don't worry, i understand where you're coming from and you are absolutely right, i probably shouldn't mess around with my thyroid any further.

Smart man.

mands

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Why taper? And being on Tren, Winstrol and Clen you can really notice adding t3?

mands

I have noticed improvement in appearance while taking T3 on the the above cycle and on a bulk,, as opposed without it

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Hey buddy, been super busy as of the late. My reasoning behind asking you is because there comes to be a point where you can actually end up burning out your thyroid. So if your current protocol was already maxed like 200/100 t4/t3 then I would strongly advise against any more use there is a reason behind there being a limit. Not sure what country you are In but that sucks about them limiting your t3 consumption however, I would probably say that I live in a country where healthcare is provided, with that being said screwing with thyroid can cause many issue and could be very expensive in the long run is a country had to care fore someone with permanent damage, because of how it effects so many other aspects of ones health. Tbh, I think it’s a bad idea. For you to tango with your thyroid any further then you already are. I. Your specific situation I think that it will cause More harm then good. The advice that was given to you by the hack, was absolutely ridiculous and he is not looking at the big picture. Although there is some truth to what he said, the keyword, is SOME, truth. Anyone supplementing with exogenous thyroid, should never just stop taking it. It’s one thing to hop on a dose, but one should always titrate off. I know my opinion is not one you wanted to hear, but this site is really about harm reduction, I think that a lot of the time that is forgotten about. I don’t know you but I know that the advice I gave to you is the same advice I would give to a loved one. I would rather know that my opinions and advice are doing good long term rather than short term and creating major health issues in the long.

And were all suppose to believe you considering you are flying high on fentanyl most of the time
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[88general88]

And were all suppose to believe you considering you are flying high on fentanyl most of the time
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again you are a child. The stupid shit you say is gonna get someone hurt. Feel free to spread stupid shit about me. Idgaf. Your opinion of me means nothing. Since you enjoy posting it so much why not make a thread and show off how fucking stupid of a cunt you are. The fact you continue to spread and solicit bullshit from a know scumbag that was willing to say anything in order to sell his bullshit in a bottle. Go ahead and make a thread bitch and see what happens. I am not psychic but will tell you. People are gonna tell you to go get fucked. Give it up.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

again you are a child. The stupid shit you say is gonna get someone hurt. Feel free to spread stupid shit about me. Idgaf. Your opinion of me means nothing. Since you enjoy posting it so much why not make a thread and show off how fucking stupid of a cunt you are. The fact you continue to spread and solicit bullshit from a know scumbag that was willing to say anything in order to sell his bullshit in a bottle. Go ahead and make a thread bitch and see what happens. I am not psychic but will tell you. People are gonna tell you to go get fucked. Give it up.

You really act like a god damn woman. You just nag and nag none stop. Start taking some arimadex for that high estrogen you have there,, SON. Its funny,, you are the one that always start shit you son of a bitch. That fentanyl has obviously fucked you up good in the god damn head of yours there son. Maybe you should try to get @canadianb420 at Venonpharma to supply you another fix of fentanyl. I see you spelled everything correctly hear so your fentanyl high must be wearing out.
And ya,, I will give it up with you. But if you say stupid shit towards me,,, then I will burn you,,, you son of a bitch. In the meantime,, GO BACK IN THE KITCHIN WHERE YOU BELONG,, LADY

 

[88general88]

You really act like a god damn woman. You just nag and nag none stop. Start taking some arimadex for that high estrogen you have there,, SON. Its funny,, you are the one that always start shit you son of a bitch. That fentanyl has obviously fucked you up good in the god damn head of yours there son. Maybe you should try to get @canadianb420 at Venonpharma to supply you another fix of fentanyl. I see you spelled everything correctly hear so your fentanyl high must be wearing out.
And ya,, I will give it up with you. But if you say stupid shit towards me,,, then I will burn you,,, you son of a bitch. In the meantime,, GO BACK IN THE KITCHIN WHERE YOU BELONG,, LADY

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