temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

I could try to analyze and theorize exactly why, but it wouldn't change the fact that it just causes lots of problems and solves nothing, so I won't use it anymore.

Ahh IC- primary. that explains it.
nice thread btw. One of these days Im gonna read it all. :)
 
Ahh IC- primary. that explains it.
nice thread btw. One of these days Im gonna read it all. :)

actually, my testicles work fine, but hcg is way too crude, roller-coasterish, e2-ish, and a million other side effects due to all that that I never want to see any hcg again
 
actually, my testicles work fine, but hcg is way too crude, roller-coasterish, e2-ish, and a million other side effects due to all that that I never want to see any hcg again

I think there is more to the hcg than LH and possibly TSH ligand activity. I feel just the opposite. I went 3 months on HCG alone and never felt better. 10000iu/mth in 4 divided doses for a month seems to somehow reset something so that the exo T is more potent. Sure dont profess to understand it let alone the wide variation in anechdodal evidence.
 
I have done hcg in a bunch of different ways over the years, even tried hcg monotherapy with every day injections, it was not good, lots of hot flashes and ups and downs and feeling anxious, I don't think I can say it ever did many good things for me

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just did 1/4 mg arimidex
 
That much adex would have me numb zombie curled up in a ball waiting for my elbows knees and ankles to stop hurting and wondering why every emotion I ever had was gone. Guess we are all very different
 
I have done hcg in a bunch of different ways over the years, even tried hcg monotherapy with every day injections, it was not good, lots of hot flashes and ups and downs and feeling anxious, I don't think I can say it ever did many good things for me.

When I first tried it, I had a response similar to yours. I think a low dose every day can be too much for some men. It does not work the same way as T. It had me hornier than hell but with ED from hell too. When I switched to 2 modest doses a week (700 IUs), it seemed to work much better, but my T level falls a bit too much in between shots...so I use 5 gm of T-gel on the middle day between HCG shots. Seems to work ok and is an acceptable change up from IM T.
 
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Plus the 1/4??

yes

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woke up this morning strong morning wood

the second last injection site still a little sore, but getting better, a little achy still, will see how that goes as the day goes on, I'm still thinking the joint ache is more from inflammation than from arimidex, but not sure yet
 
ok orgasm last night

woke up this morning with very strong morning wood, so it seems lots of arimidex doesn't hurt libido

elbows feel a little achy
 
persistent erection at the moment, this afternoon

joints feeling ok too, I'm starting to really think that was more to do with inflammation than estrogen, I'm thinking the higher arimidex dose was a good thing, will keep an eye on the concept
 
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