Test base before mma fight ?

luissp

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Hi

I m familiar with the use of test base in powerlifting comps and before big work outs but can't find info on its use in mma.
Would a (pro) fighter not accustomed to aas but chosing to go on a low dose of test and turinabol preparing for his fight benefit from test base before that fight ?

Thanks in advance for all input !
 
I personally need to already be on an elevated test dose if I'm to feel much of a difference from test base prior to a workout. Just using test base while on a TRT dose doesn't do much for me...

Thanks Eman, that guy is on 200mg a week so a trt dose. Not sure how helpful it is for a fight, will it increase his muscle strenght and resistance but have a negative effect on his conditioning ( i doubt so for the latter).
Tried a few time test base whike cycling for heavy work outs and liked it btw, although not sure how much it helped. Ordered a couple more vials but not pushing weights anymore, might give it a try on sparring day ( did one for grappling while on a trt dose I think and didn t notice anything good, but PLer conditioning made all sessions very difficult anyway, that part is still lagging but already significantly better)
 
Cheque drops, mtren or halo might be a better option.

Yes, u are most likely right, I'm not familiar with Mtren but Halo and cheque drops do come up often when it comes to figting sports aas.
This friend is following a "doctor" programation and he might well add those for his last leg. I could give him some test base though if that helps, and use it sometimes myself. Gotta go back to the gym someday before I lose too much weight but unlikely to go through a PL routine before quite a while.
Quit laughing at crossfit memes since training with competitive fighters as well as following more of them on social media, it seems those guys all train crossfit especially when preparing for a fight, and they are a tough bunch. Not many heavyweights competing though around here, I suspect bigger guys have to hit the weights in a more traditional way just to keep the bodyweight up.
 
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Idk much but wouldnt adding test base on top of tbol make your blood pressure too high and work against you? I guess it depends how long and how intense

I was thinking just once for the fight for that person.
Not so sure about myself, main issue is technique and condition at the moment, although extra weight and strenght is nice as it allows to be kind of competitive with better but smaller fighters in training. Getting totally crushed by advanced fighters/grapplers if they up the pressure though, several weight class difference don't help much there.
 
Hi

I m familiar with the use of test base in powerlifting comps and before big work outs but can't find info on its use in mma.
Would a (pro) fighter not accustomed to aas but chosing to go on a low dose of test and turinabol preparing for his fight benefit from test base before that fight ?

Thanks in advance for all input !

No lol unless the benefit the fighter is looking for is gaining shame and disgrace from the sport and national media after they test positive with USADA immediately following the bout.

USADA is almost impossible to beat on the pro level. Turinabol especially is a longer lasting oral, hence why Jon Jones got popped on it.

As a pro MMA fighter, at least in the UFC, you're better of being natural or at least retiring in between fights like Connor is now to evade testing. Did anyone see when Connor retired in between the cowboy fight and came back much bigger and fuller? There's a reason for that. Any idea why he's retired right now... There's a reason for that too. In 2018 Connor was tested 67 times. That's more than once a week for those who can't do math lol good luck evading USADA. They come to test all the time, can be at all hours of the day or night. You miss a test more than once and you're suspended.

It's nearly impossible to beat the USADA testing, I wouldn't try.
 
Yes, i actually had no idea about Conor tested over once per week but am not talking about the UFC. Not that there is no risk but I d assume someone already experienced in fighting pro would already know them.
 
I used to take halotestin before wrestling matches, like Eman said testosterone is just testosterone, a large spike in it won't feel that much different, you gotta let it build up in the plasma in your blood to really feel a huge strength increase
 
Hi

I m familiar with the use of test base in powerlifting comps and before big work outs but can't find info on its use in mma.
Would a (pro) fighter not accustomed to aas but chosing to go on a low dose of test and turinabol preparing for his fight benefit from test base before that fight ?

Thanks in advance for all input !


Hello, sir!

I would like to express my opinion on this issue.

...unlike neurotransmitters and serious narcotic substances, the discussion of which would be inappropriate, Steroids act systemically, help to adapt to training stress.

If you do ONE injection of the testosterone base before the fight, I think the effect will be minimal.
If you make an injection before each workout, for, say, a month, then the effect will be noticeable.

Of course, androgens are neuroactive, they have their own special receptors in the brain, and DHT behaves like a neurotransmitter there.

Testosterone itself has the effect of increasing the amount of catecholamines in the central nervous system. There are dopamine and norepinephrine and adrenaline. However, this will only be useful if you don't have enough of them. There are cases when people developed schizophrenic reactions on TRT due to excessive production of dopamine in certain areas of the brain.

Fight/flight adrenaline reactions can also have their downsides, I think it’s clear what they are. You can find thousands of fights on YouTube where an overly aggressive and assertive fighter fell victim to his blind rage and lost the fight to the careful and skillful tactics of his opponent's cold mind.








Of course, something highly androgenic, such as Halotestin, will make you more aggressive and assertive, but even it needs some time in the blood, to reach a steady, certain concentration, in order to cause persistent systemic effects.

We can argue for a long time, but if you reduce my thought to a couple of lines, then steroids do not work as a speed that can be used immediately before a sleepless night at the club. Even halotestin, when it is taken once, is unlikely to give any effect other than a placebo.

I have personal competitive experience in MMA, grappling and BJJ. I can say for sure which drugs will definitely help you improve your concentration during the fight, but as I said above, these drugs are not accepted here.

You also need to understand that excessive psychomotor arousal greatly impairs your endurance because you begin to spend too many resources. The mental endurance, concentration and motivation of a fighter boosted in this way will not last long.

If you want my recommendation, firstly, will give you a good recovery until the day of the fight. For example, I use some sedatives to get enough sleep before this day. But such drugs must be individually selected in advance, so as not to cause daytime sleepiness and fatigue.

I would also take care of the food intake on this day and the day before. Your intestines should not be overloaded with long-term carbohydrates, fats, or large amounts of protein. I prefer to have a small breakfast and take fast carbohydrates with me so that during the fight you have energy, but at the same time you are not overloaded with a large amount of food.

Let's summarize:

1. You need good sleep the night before the fight.
2. A small amount of easily digestible food.
3. Good concentration
4. Good endurance (it will not be superfluous to take pentoxifylline and SR9009 for a course within 10 days before the fight.
5. Concentration (there are also drugs for this)
6. Calm. Reduce stress with meditation practices
 
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Intranasally administered testosterone, according to studies, results in substantially higher brain concentrations of testosterone verse other routes of administration.

If one is looking for a mental amping up using testosterone base, then intranasally is the way to get it.

Will it be useful in a fight? Maybe. Will it give you a noticeable strength boost? Doubt it. Will it give you heightened alertness and a tad more aggression? Yes.

Ive used intranasal testosterone base pretty substantially. It definitely made me feel more alert and a more aggressive drive towards the weights.

To make testosterone base dissolve in water and absorb through the nose you must first encapsulate it into hydroxy-propyl beta-cyclodextrin, this makes the molecule hydrophilic so it dissolves in water and can be put into a nasal sprayer and administered, with rapid onset of effects.
 
Just make sure whatever you use you test it multiple times before your fight.
So you know what to expect. I knew a person who took halo before his fight for the first time and his BP was skyhigh causing his cardio to be close to 0, causing him to have cramps after 3 mins of fighting.

Its probably obvious for most people tho.
 
Injectable mibolerone. And why are you referring to yourself in 3rd person as this “friend”. You think you are avoiding incriminating yourself?
 
Intranasally administered testosterone, according to studies, results in substantially higher brain concentrations of testosterone verse other routes of administration.

If one is looking for a mental amping up using testosterone base, then intranasally is the way to get it.

Will it be useful in a fight? Maybe. Will it give you a noticeable strength boost? Doubt it. Will it give you heightened alertness and a tad more aggression? Yes.

Ive used intranasal testosterone base pretty substantially. It definitely made me feel more alert and a more aggressive drive towards the weights.

To make testosterone base dissolve in water and absorb through the nose you must first encapsulate it into hydroxy-propyl beta-cyclodextrin, this makes the molecule hydrophilic so it dissolves in water and can be put into a nasal sprayer and administered, with rapid onset of effects.
Something I doubt that it will be effective enough for such tasks, or am I wrong?
 
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