Test E log, cycle #6, year 11, 24 years of age

[Ganjasmokergymgoer]

Hello, first post, long time lurker.
Started my first cycle at 18, then again at 19, 20, 21, and 22. All cycles 10 weeks of test E and one of test C. 150-200 mg per dose, no PCT ever. One dirty bulk and the rest very strict dieting animal based. have not started cycle #6 yet planned for 12 weeks test E,
Few to no negative side effects on all cycles, mostly just a beautiful jaw now. overall have felt great even at the end of cycle with no PCT. All opinions, questions and advice is appreciated. Testosterone helped rehabilitate my knee health, and I can walk properly because of past cycles due to having severe weakness in my knees from standing on hard surfaces wearing body armor and other heavy equipment.
Never taken bloods, don’t laugh I was broke and meatheaded
1st picture is at 18 before starting (138 LB) got up to 163 that cycle

2nd pic is 19 yrs 2nd cycle about 4-5 weeks in (150lb)

3rd pic is 4th cycle at 21 yrs, 7 weeks in (150 lbs)
4th pic is this year of 2024 in june, no workouts since last October
( 150 lbs) , over 2 years off any type of PED, only Tongkat Ali and fadogia agrestris, raw organs, and minerals, along with the same strict animal based diet (mainly raw ground beef, bananas, whole milk, apple juice, rice, boiled eggs).
Dick and balls have always worked great, no noticeable ball shrinkage


Also did meldonium ( 3 cycles) non-anabolic
I can hold my breathe for 3 minutes I think it’s because of the meldonium cus I could not before.

Diet: 800-900 grams of bananas, 1-1/2 cups rice ( 900 cals), 1 pint whole milk, 1 liter apple juice, 600-700 grams raw ground beef 73/27 (lean/fat), 3-6 boiled eggs
( job conditions have had significant affect on water weight retention and calorie usage)

 

[DECLAN]

I think you need a proper guidance rather than AAS. You’re past the point where you get flamed for using gear with no structural base but you can still benefit from getting a real coach/trainer who can guide your nutrition.

I think you have great genetics for pure muscle accrual, being naturally lean will give you a huge time frame to bulk compared to us who have faster tendencies to gain fat.

I would say spend your money on a good coach and you will get more learning the curves and improve faster. If you decide to do it on your own, learn to take advantage of your metabolism and put more emphasis on food, training and recovery rather than PEDs.

Good luck.

 

[Ganjasmokergymgoer]

I think you need a proper guidance rather than AAS. You’re past the point where you get flamed for using gear with no structural base but you can still benefit from getting a real coach/trainer who can guide your nutrition.

I think you have great genetics for pure muscle accrual, being naturally lean will give you a huge time frame to bulk compared to us who have faster tendencies to gain fat.

I would say spend your money on a good coach and you will get more learning the curves and improve faster. If you decide to do it on your own, learn to take advantage of your metabolism and put more emphasis on food, training and recovery rather than PEDs.

Good luck.

As far as performance goes, I’ve never met anyone that worked harder than me or was better than me in any way, pretty much the only way people are ever better performing is when they can lift more weight. As far as coaches go, i would like someone to help with my AAS usage, I’ve outperformed my peers all my life, I just want to be bigger. I’m at the point where a caloric surplus doesn’t gain lean muscle but starts to add fat, and I train as much as is necessary before hitting an overtraining point, in 11 years of lifting I’ve gotten enough experience to know what makes the difference for me and hard training and eating just makes me more… ripped. I’m ripped enough, it’s time for some volume bud, limited by genetics somewhat.

 

[DECLAN]

As far as performance goes, I’ve never met anyone that worked harder than me or was better than me in any way, pretty much the only way people are ever better performing is when they can lift more weight. As far as coaches go, i would like someone to help with my AAS usage, I’ve outperformed my peers all my life, I just want to be bigger. I’m at the point where a caloric surplus doesn’t gain lean muscle but starts to add fat, and I train as much as is necessary before hitting an overtraining point, in 11 years of lifting I’ve gotten enough experience to know what makes the difference for me and hard training and eating just makes me more… ripped. I’m ripped enough, it’s time for some volume bud, limited by genetics somewhat.

Well, if you think AAS is where you lack, better go the Chase Irons route then lol.

How tall are you btw? I hope you’re not over 5’8, sure you’re lean but worrying about drugs when you’re top weight is 180 means your problem is nutrition not peds.

 

[RekTest]

10 wk cycles, no wonder you look natty, which is very sad with SIX cycles…


Wasting your time, 500mg/wk bump it to 16wks and thank me later, also quit being a little boy and learn to eat.

 

[phenominal34]

As far as performance goes, I’ve never met anyone that worked harder than me or was better than me in any way, pretty much the only way people are ever better performing is when they can lift more weight. As far as coaches go, i would like someone to help with my AAS usage, I’ve outperformed my peers all my life, I just want to be bigger. I’m at the point where a caloric surplus doesn’t gain lean muscle but starts to add fat, and I train as much as is necessary before hitting an overtraining point, in 11 years of lifting I’ve gotten enough experience to know what makes the difference for me and hard training and eating just makes me more… ripped. I’m ripped enough, it’s time for some volume bud, limited by genetics somewhat.

lol never met anyone better performing than you… I’ll tell you what, a lot of ppl eat better than you pal that’s for sure. And if the other stuff was the case you wouldn’t be on Meso you’d be at a training camp for a professional sports team. Go to a buffet and come back when your bigger than a high school sophomore.

 

[Ganjasmokergymgoer]

10 wk cycles, no wonder you look natty, which is very sad with SIX cycles…


Wasting your time, 500mg/wk bump it to 16wks and thank me later, also quit being a little boy and learn to eat.

So what do you eat then

 

[Ganjasmokergymgoer]

lol never met anyone better performing than you… I’ll tell you what, a lot of ppl eat better than you pal that’s for sure. And if the other stuff was the case you wouldn’t be on Meso you’d be at a training camp for a professional sports team. Go to a buffet and come back when your bigger than a high school sophomore.

So what do you eat and why do you eat that.

 

[Ganjasmokergymgoer]

10 wk cycles, no wonder you look natty, which is very sad with SIX cycles…


Wasting your time, 500mg/wk bump it to 16wks and thank me later, also quit being a little boy and learn to eat.

And why this dosage for this long? Seems like a bit of a cut and paste answer

 

[cdoubleu]

I’m at the point where a caloric surplus doesn’t gain lean muscle but starts to add fat, and I train as much as is necessary before hitting an overtraining point

If the goal is put on size you will have to put yourself out of your comfort zone for a while. In most cases you will need to be comfortable with some fat gain in the process.
Cut down the road.

 

[RekTest]

And why this dosage for this long? Seems like a bit of a cut and paste answer

16wks isnt long when you understand esters

You can continue being the weight of a little boy or take advice.

 

[RekTest]

So what do you eat then

Im gonna tell you a story of when I was 18-20,

Im 6ft but I was small like you 155-160 couldnt gain weight for the life of me, then I watched jay cutler eat BIG to get BIG.. I hated being so small, so I literally ate EVERYTHING, kicked my body out of being small.. got to 210 ish when I found out I had bad test and needed trt.

Then I found npp and hgh, now Im 258. Going to around 285 or until I hate myself in the mirror to cut back down.

 

[phenominal34]

So what do you eat and why do you eat that.

Read and research on your own, you’ll absorb it more and start gaining knowledge

 

[DECLAN]

So what do you eat and why do you eat that.

If you want some ideas, check out the logs of the big guys here. A little reading goes a long way.

Palifter, bigmac, bigtomj and other guys have meal examples and macro breakdowns which you can follow and experiment on. Make a template based on what you think aligns with your goals and adjust accordingly.

This is why noobs need guidance on nutrition more than they need drugs. Hell, even if you have the most basic training protocol without drugs but still adhering to a sensible diet plan, you’ll progress more than someone who eats like shit and on gear.

This is not to say peds are useless but you can catapult that progress if you cover the basics first then add the icing in the end.

 

[lukiss96]

You look good...

for a natural.

 

[JustMe18]

You look good...

for a natural.

Ouch..

 

[JustMe18]

Hello, first post, long time lurker.
Started my first cycle at 18, then again at 19, 20, 21, and 22. All cycles 10 weeks of test E and one of test C. 150-200 mg per dose, no PCT ever. One dirty bulk and the rest very strict dieting animal based. have not started cycle #6 yet planned for 12 weeks test E,
Few to no negative side effects on all cycles, mostly just a beautiful jaw now. overall have felt great even at the end of cycle with no PCT. All opinions, questions and advice is appreciated. Testosterone helped rehabilitate my knee health, and I can walk properly because of past cycles due to having severe weakness in my knees from standing on hard surfaces wearing body armor and other heavy equipment.
Never taken bloods, don’t laugh I was broke and meatheaded
1st picture is at 18 before starting (138 LB) got up to 163 that cycle

2nd pic is 19 yrs 2nd cycle about 4-5 weeks in (150lb)

3rd pic is 4th cycle at 21 yrs, 7 weeks in (150 lbs)
4th pic is this year of 2024 in june, no workouts since last October
( 150 lbs) , over 2 years off any type of PED, only Tongkat Ali and fadogia agrestris, raw organs, and minerals, along with the same strict animal based diet (mainly raw ground beef, bananas, whole milk, apple juice, rice, boiled eggs).
Dick and balls have always worked great, no noticeable ball shrinkage


Also did meldonium ( 3 cycles) non-anabolic
I can hold my breathe for 3 minutes I think it’s because of the meldonium cus I could not before.

Diet: 800-900 grams of bananas, 1-1/2 cups rice ( 900 cals), 1 pint whole milk, 1 liter apple juice, 600-700 grams raw ground beef 73/27 (lean/fat), 3-6 boiled eggs
( job conditions have had significant affect on water weight retention and calorie usage)

You need more carbs calculated into that diet. Protein is good and all but carbs make the difference in lifting and building muscle. Low dose cycles yield minor results as well if you won’t eat more. 19-24 those dose cycles would’ve been good for shutting natural test production down. Lucky you didn’t get sides

 

[Deleted member 147837]

As far as performance goes, I’ve never met anyone that worked harder than me or was better than me in any way, pretty much the only way people are ever better performing is when they can lift more weight. As far as coaches go, i would like someone to help with my AAS usage, I’ve outperformed my peers all my life, I just want to be bigger. I’m at the point where a caloric surplus doesn’t gain lean muscle but starts to add fat, and I train as much as is necessary before hitting an overtraining point, in 11 years of lifting I’ve gotten enough experience to know what makes the difference for me and hard training and eating just makes me more… ripped. I’m ripped enough, it’s time for some volume bud, limited by genetics somewhat.

Dude, you need to relax on the ego and consider taking a more objective look at yourself. I suspect this will go in one ear and out the other

- a fellow 24 year old.

 

[ineffectual]

Read and research on your own, you’ll absorb it more and start gaining knowledge

Where to start?

 

[TUTfan]

Stop using steroids, you look like a guy who has trained two years natty.