Test is test = bullshit?

[Plate Smacker]

I run Testosterone Decanoate... completely pip free even if blasting a whole 3mL syringe.
I inject E5D... which is awesome.
I've been a pin cushion before... it's a pain.
I don't compete though... so there's that.
Not something to run if competing, obviously because you can't drop to very low dosage or all together as some do before competition. Longer ester would keep you elevated and everything that comes with that.

Test is Test but your goals determine what ester you will run.

 

[88general88]

I always feel better on Sustanon than Enanthate. I felt amazing on TPP. My current connect doesn't brew it, I hate jumping around to different people. When I find someone I'm happy with I usually stay loyal.

 

[bigboy420]

But if ur stable on test c and u pin prop u wont feel anything OR?

 

[ripper908]

I have no pip from test prop, i'm using the 110mg/ml oil from qsc, not homebrewed.

You must have used some high dosed or shitty oil

I dont know man the consensus seems to be thats the norm. Ive only ever used 2 labs (mission and pareto) and both were the same

 

[Avies48]

But if ur stable on test c and u pin prop u wont feel anything OR?

I think ud feel that rush… of a short ester… prop, ace, etc… a spike in levels then that rush would die down as the longer ester allows a cruise keeping the stability… but some prefer short esters…

 

[micro2000]

Agree

Hormone per 100mg

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

It's not just the amount of test that is different by ester but it's release kinetics. Long esters are more lipophilic so they reside in the oil depot longer and release slower producing lower blood levels. Short esters release quickly and produce higher levels.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's not just the amount of test that is different by ester but it's release kinetics. Long esters are more lipophilic so they reside in the oil depot longer and release slower producing lower blood levels. Short esters release quickly and produce higher levels.

Thanks.


Yea. I know about the peaks and troughs.(not trying to sound like a smart ass)


its why there is less erythrocytosis associated with Test U

 

[Avies48]

Thanks.


Yea. I know about the peaks and troughs.(not trying to sound like a smart ass)


its why there is less erythrocytosis associated with Test U

Dayum i did not know this honestly… so it is better for trt usage… hmmm great to know

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Dayum i did not know this honestly… so it is better for trt usage… hmmm great to know

the lower peak creates less EPO levels, so it doesnt send a signal to increase HGB production.

 

[Avies48]

the lower peak creates less EPO levels, so it doesnt send a signal to increase HGB production.

Damn good to know after all these years of test cyp and chasing blood work and phlebotomies

 

[narta]

Long esters are more lipophilic so they reside in the oil depot longer and release slower producing lower blood levels

One caveat: given an equal API of a short and longer esters, tha later will produce a higher stable level

 

[Benf15harp]

this is the way. Prop at night to raise test levels throughout your sleep but also to give a solid baseline level. Upon waking use test base to get a good peak. Mid afternoon another smaller test base for a small peak.

 

[Eddie.]

Thanks.


Yea. I know about the peaks and troughs.(not trying to sound like a smart ass)


its why there is less erythrocytosis associated with Test U

Damn good to know after all these years of test cyp and chasing blood work and phlebotomies

If you don't mind pinning every day, subcutaneous with test C or E will do the trick too.

 

[Avies48]

If you don't mind pinning every day, subcutaneous with test C or E will do the trick too.

Thats the route i was on for a very long time… small doses… still seemed to have crit and hemoglobin issues for some reason… perhaps mine were to big of shots…

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If you don't mind pinning every day, subcutaneous with test C or E will do the trick too.

Ill do HGH everyday, I feel like Test U Castor is working smarter, not harder. and definitely more efficient to everyday life.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Damn good to know after all these years of test cyp and chasing blood work and phlebotomies

high hct is usually from hydration issues.
ive been on a lot of test for awhile and my HCT went from 51 to 42 2 months later espite doubling my test dose because i was more hydrated

 

[Infidel141]

Prop feels like an entirely different drug. I ran 1g a week for 3 months and the “feel” was entirely different no difference in expected gains. The pumps are significantly better, the side effects are more pronounced. Just my 2cents

I have to agree with you. I don’t feel much of a difference, but there is a difference there for sure. Just my personal experience, everyone is different. I have never once had pip from prop. I’ve only used my own home brew following @Thegreek recipe and zero problems over the years.

 

[WOLFMAGE]

I have to agree with you. I don’t feel much of a difference, but there is a difference there for sure. Just my personal experience, everyone is different. I have never once had pip from prop. I’ve only used my own home brew following @Thegreek recipe and zero problems over the years.

Are you test p peeps pinning ED?

 

[Mr_Fusion]

Are you test p peeps pinning ED?

Very much so! If I'm not on Sustanon, then Test P mixed with Cyp and NPP daily.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Are you test p peeps pinning ED?

Yes - 25 mg daily for TRT. Feeling better on this protocol than longer esters.