the brew kit

[Johne71]

I see what you're saying. But brewkit may or may not have been a customer of panda, why sabotage him. Aside from the fact he allegedly stoke from panda. But that sounds like a fool me once shame on you... kinda deal. Panda just trusted the wrong person. But I don't k ow specifics so I just assuming.

@Jeffg353 is obviously a gear connoisseur, did you see the bag he posted in contest thread? Gear from all over. Grey tops. So he's a rep. But still a customer too. If people wanna take his posts with a grain of salt then that's their prerogative. I personally take everyone's posts with a grain of salt. But that's me. Rep or not.

Indeed indeed. Would you trust the review of Ford, Chrysler, Chevy, Mercury, and a slew of others coming from Honda? That is how I can’t help but see this. Any new members pointed to the testing thread will not have the benefit of knowing Honda maybe paying for the testing of other cars. I understand it becomes “fishy” when those other all test negative and this hasn’t been the case. My point was only this...would we treat other reps as fair as we have @Jeffg353 ? There are certainly reps I don’t want testing products...

 

[rpbb]

I see what you're saying. But brewkit may or may not have been a customer of panda, why sabotage him. Aside from the fact he allegedly stoke from panda. But that sounds like a fool me once shame on you... kinda deal. Panda just trusted the wrong person. But I don't k ow specifics so I just assuming.

@Jeffg353 is obviously a gear connoisseur, did you see the bag he posted in contest thread? Gear from all over. Grey tops. So he's a rep. But still a customer too. If people wanna take his posts with a grain of salt then that's their prerogative. I personally take everyone's posts with a grain of salt. But that's me. Rep or not.

so all of the sudden we're supposed to make exceptions for reps. How come he hasn't went to colossal and tested his gear, or how about naps and pharmacom. As far as I'm concerned, this was nothing but a big pissing contest between tbk and jeffg(panda rep). I think they should have all been banned

 

[Johne71]

Also, so many ugl use ppl. I'd imagine you through a dart in the underground and test that ugl product, it has a good chance of being ppl raws.

Yes but the testing should be done by customers and not reps. Hell...even a customer can tamper with things they send into analyzer if they get paused at a source. You see I have trust issues that go very deep.

 

[AnTabolic73]

so all of the sudden we're supposed to make exceptions for reps. How come he hasn't went to colossal and tested his gear, or how about naps and pharmacom. As far as I'm concerned, this was nothing but a big pissing contest between tbk and jeffg(panda rep). I think they should have all been banned

I don't know about banning jeff. That doesn't seem necessary.

Whatever unwritten rules regarding reps we have are just that, unwritten. Take his posts however you take them. Take all members posts like That tho, not just reps. There's maybe a handful of guys here who's word truly has weight behind it.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Indeed indeed. Would you trust the review of Ford, Chrysler, Chevy, Mercury, and a slew of others coming from Honda? That is how I can’t help but see this. Any new members pointed to the testing thread will not have the benefit of knowing Honda maybe paying for the testing of other cars. I understand it becomes “fishy” when those other all test negative and this hasn’t been the case. My point was only this...would we treat other reps as fair as we have @Jeffg353 ? There are certainly reps I don’t want testing products...

Id have to put some blind faith into Honda's (or whatever company you mentioned) safety testing, right? They make sure the cars are structurally sound and do all their own crash testing and shit like that.

 

[rpbb]

Id have to put some blind faith into Honda's (or whatever company you mentioned) safety testing, right? They make sure the cars are structurally sound and do all their own crash testing and shit like that.

I'll ask you this, you've been here awhile, how many times have you seen a rep for a lab go after another lab. Like I said, the whole thing stinks to high heaven

 

[Johne71]

I don't know about banning jeff. That doesn't seem necessary.

Whatever unwritten rules regarding reps we have are just that, unwritten. Take his posts however you take them. Take all members posts like That tho, not just reps. There's maybe a handful of guys here who's word truly has weight behind it.

I agree with you AntaBolic...but the way Jeff responsed to rpbb was not how we expect source reps to respond to anyone. Behavior has to change when you rep. This is the problem TBK had...couldn’t hold his tongue. If a “known” rep comes on and behave this way they typically get crucified and we see the standard “we own this board NOT you” replies.

 

[Johne71]

Id have to put some blind faith into Honda's (or whatever company you mentioned) safety testing, right? They make sure the cars are structurally sound and do all their own crash testing and shit like that.

I think you missed my point. I wouldn’t take blind faith. I’d have to go third party.
J

 

[rpbb]

I agree with you AntaBolic...but the way Jeff responsed to rpbb was not how we expect source reps to respond to anyone. Behavior has to change when you rep. This is the problem TBK had...couldn’t hold his tongue. If a “known” rep comes on and behave this way they typically get crucified and we see the standard “we own this board NOT you” replies.

he showed his true colors on that one. gives all the other reps a bad rap

 

[Johne71]

he showed his true colors on that one. gives all the other reps a bad rap

I think it just allows him to slip under the radar as a rep. Unless it’s a banner or under his signature. What can we do though...Millard is aware and I’d think he’d see this differently.
J

 

[AnTabolic73]

I'll ask you this, you've been here awhile, how many times have you seen a rep for a lab go after another lab. Like I said, the whole thing stinks to high heaven

Actual reps? Probably never. Shills and shit like that, often.

But, @Jeffg353 has proof that he's a customer. Jeff never complained about the product, aside from the test c. Which he even assumed it might of been an issue on his end and didn't immediately blame brewkit(hell for all we know panda fucked up and sent brew kit test c labeled as drol) The whole debacle came from jeff being denied a credit which most thought he was entitled to get.

The whole contest was strange. I can see why you and John and others would be skeptical. Seems like a long way to go just for a shit source. Had he offered some type of payment through ppl it would've been even stranger. But he offered his own shit, Grey tops.

Amd @daylight driller even got in the mix. Offered some tren.


Jeff posted all the lab results. I got notified about it from following the thread. I downloaded the first 2, and then couldn't download the rest. It was cuz jeff deleted his post. I guess to ensure he would get a credit first. Cuz shortly after I believe he asked about the credit. The rep responded... The rest is history.

When the results came up, I assumed he was posting in wrong thread, and it was meant to be in panda thread. My first impression was that he shouldn't be testing panda product, no one will believe him. Turned out to be brewkit product. Forget about pandas connection to brewkit. As far as I'm concerned he tested brewkit product not panda. Brew kit could've been cutting panda raws with chalk, but the testing proved that he had pure product.

At most it's a win win for a panda employee. He tests brewkit product and shows they're legit, he gets a credit, not to mention it shows panda raws are good. A win win win actually.

I can see why it looks strange. It kinda does.

 

[AnTabolic73]

I think it just allows him to slip under the radar as a rep. Unless it’s a banner or under his signature. What can we do though...Millard is aware and I’d think he’d see this differently.
J

You can't see signatures on mobile on less you turn your cellphone sideways into landscape mode. You can see Jeff's signature says he is ppl affiliated .

 

[AnTabolic73]

I agree with you AntaBolic...but the way Jeff responsed to rpbb was not how we expect source reps to respond to anyone. Behavior has to change when you rep. This is the problem TBK had...couldn’t hold his tongue. If a “known” rep comes on and behave this way they typically get crucified and we see the standard “we own this board NOT you” replies.

A lot of people respond that way to @rpbb , he has a certain charm that brings that out.

And jeff isn't a rep here he's a rep on another board, I forget. I'm not a member of that board.

 

[daylight driller]

Actual reps? Probably never. Shills and shit like that, often.

But, @Jeffg353 has proof that he's a customer. Jeff never complained about the product, aside from the test c. Which he even assumed it might of been an issue on his end and didn't immediately blame brewkit(hell for all we know panda fucked up and sent brew kit test c labeled as drol) The whole debacle came from jeff being denied a credit which most thought he was entitled to get.

The whole contest was strange. I can see why you and John and others would be skeptical. Seems like a long way to go just for a shit source. Had he offered some type of payment through ppl it would've been even stranger. But he offered his own shit, Grey tops.

Amd @daylight driller even got in the mix. Offered some tren.


Jeff posted all the lab results. I got notified about it from following the thread. I downloaded the first 2, and then couldn't download the rest. It was cuz jeff deleted his post. I guess to ensure he would get a credit first. Cuz shortly after I believe he asked about the credit. The rep responded... The rest is history.

When the results came up, I assumed he was posting in wrong thread, and it was meant to be in panda thread. My first impression was that he shouldn't be testing panda product, no one will believe him. Turned out to be brewkit product. Forget about pandas connection to brewkit. As far as I'm concerned he tested brewkit product not panda. Brew kit could've been cutting panda raws with chalk, but the testing proved that he had pure product.

At most it's a win win for a panda employee. He tests brewkit product and shows they're legit, he gets a credit, not to mention it shows panda raws are good. A win win win actually.

I can see why it looks strange. It kinda does.

Yes I did give some tren to the guy in second. I did so because I was pissed about a pm from the brew kit. Im not sure if you are trying to fit me into some conspiracy or what but I am not affiliated with any lab

 

[Johne71]

I’m not sure how repping a company on a different board makes him any less of a rep here. They are technically his employer or an employer either way. His behavior could effect their bottom line...both positive and negative. Testing PPL products is a positive for PPL as would also be attacking other sources or getting heated with customers. Best to ignore those that offend you when you are a rep...that’s for any line of product repping.
J

 

[AnTabolic73]

Yes I did give some tren to the guy in second. I did so because I was pissed about a pm from the brew kit. Im not sure if you are trying to fit me into some conspiracy or what but I am not affiliated with any lab

No just saying that not only a rep was involved in the contest.

 

[Jeffg353]

so all of the sudden we're supposed to make exceptions for reps. How come he hasn't went to colossal and tested his gear, or how about naps and pharmacom. As far as I'm concerned, this was nothing but a big pissing contest between tbk and jeffg(panda rep). I think they should have all been banned

I tested 3 of sasquatch product's. All 3 came in slightly underdosed or close to label claim did I make a huge ordeal about it.

 

[daylight driller]

No just saying that no only a rep was involved in the contest.

Okay sorry for the misunderstanding on my part the way I read it seemed like I was being linked to some ongoing conspiracy

 

[AnTabolic73]

@Tbk @NextDayRaws may be brewkits handles as well.

Just an fyi @Millard Baker

 

[Jeffg353]

U want to talk shit about Panda, PPL, their shitty underdosed GH, or any one of a million other things about them be my guest. But when u drag my credibility thru the mud to try running with one of the ridiculous conspiracy theories I'm not going to sit back n take it. That's the same shit TBK did that started the contest by calling me a scammer. I could care less about his $100 or $800 store credit. I don't want his shitty gear or unknown sourced raws.

I'm not a rep here. I don't perform rep duties n am not being compensated to do anything PPL related here. If u haven't noticed I've even pretty much stayed out of PPL thread.

So humor me for a minute here n let's take a deeper look at @rpbb most recent conspiracy theory. So I didn't buy 8 products off TBK. So that means there's 2 scenarios where this can go.
1. I bought them from PPL n then gave credit to TBK. Y would I do that?
2. I was able to buy off Analyzer n didn't send him 8 samples n have him fake the test reports. Again another ridiculous idea.

What's next PPL was the 3rd gunman on the grassy knoll that shit JFK? When does someone tell this dipshit enough is enough? It's like a broken record. I get it he don't like PPL. Honestly I don't give a fuck. I'd let u bash the shit out of them all day long.

Once I see some orders land perhaps I will test colossal gear. Pharmacon I refuse to support their overpriced shit...even for the sake of testing.

I have an idea...y don't @rpbb spend some $$$ n send some shit off for testing? @rpbb can buy some Pharmacon gear n pay for the testing.
Y don't he kick in some cash n run a contest? Don't even have any fucking sources here running contests. This shit is coming out of my own pocket.