Mr. Deltoid
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bdg77
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Anyone familiar with the Georgia Guide stones? In 1979 some anonomous person build this megalothic stone structure that has kind of a new commandment list in 12 different languages. It aligns to all kinds of astrologic events. Anyways it's pretty interesting. So I posted a link. One of this persons statements was that the ideal population for earth was about 500 million. So according to this we've got something like 6.5 billion too many people. I don't know what to make of it, really. But someone spent a lot of money and made the banker swear to take his idetity to the grave to build this. The "commandments" or suggestions are mostly simple common sense things. The only contraversial one is his population statement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
Ozzy619
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Ive seen a few things about this a few years back. From my understanding the person who funded it believed that there will be a cataclysmic event in which humanity will be back to the stone age. He built the guide stones out of granite to guide humans to not make the same mistakes or something of that nature. Theres alot of theories behind this monument, but it seems straight forward to me. We are over populated, we are way too dependent on a few that provide for the many. I believe we live on a fine line between prosperity and chaos.
Mr. Deltoid
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I know all about them and they are evil! Those things where put there by some ultrarich progressive nut job and shoud be bulldozed over or cut up and used for grave markers. I hate this wishy washy the humans are destroying the planet progressive bullshit. So what we murder 8.5 billion people? These people are pure evil!
Mr. Deltoid
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Unfortunately your wrong on this one Ozzy with all do respect these progressive want a worldwide government one that has the power to choose who breeds and who doesn't and they also believe in murdering their political opponents and anyone they deem undesirable. The Georgia guidestones is a place of pilgramage for these kinds of big government nut jobs. I can't stand the thought of that sort of evil! Mankind doesn't need to limit itself look what freedom and a capitalist market has done for mankind look how far we've come so fast. If we were to release that engine again scrap all the regulation and red tape and buracrats we'd be colonizing mars before you know it. The progressive nuckledrgging idiots thinks the pie is finite it's NOT! WE CAN MAKE MORE PIE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE ! Unleash the capitalist spirit of this nation and free her people and get rid of the alphabet soup agencys and you'd be amazed at where we can go and what we can do. These evil progressive defeatist are wrong in all of their ideas.
Ozzy619
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This the first time Ive heard of it being a pilgrimage site for progressives, my understanding about it was quite the contrary, but I havent seen anything about it in a few years. Im with you on the thought on big government murdering political opponents and having too much control. I dont think there is some hidden esoteric agenda, I used to, but not anymore. An example I was talking about would be Southern California and our dependance on the Colorado River. We have over populated a desert and turned it into a paradise. If something were to happen to the Colorado River day goodbye to everything south of Los Angeles and the lush farms of the Imperial Valley.
Mr. Deltoid
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I believe free men in a capitalist society could overcome any problems we may face. Look at how far we've come the progressives are actually limiting our potential. There's nothing we couldn't overcome as a free people in a capitalist society. The possibilities are endless. It's the small minded left wing that puts limits on us and it's so ridiculous when they say the republican party is fear mongering that's all they do man made global warming is nothing but fear mongering and it's bullshit! It isn't happening because of man the climate is always in flux change is the only constant. Right now the sun is going through an incredible active cycle and it's heating up all the inner planets in our solar system but they can't get power from that so they've indoctrinated everyone into this bullshit about co2 emissions. These people are full of shit don't fall for their nonsense!
This isn't about global warming. I spent my early childhood in Salinas Ca. My dad used to take me down to the Salinas River at the bridge on the highway to Monterey. He'd park the car and we'd walk around the river bottom and watch the fish and turtles. Crystal clear water. The river eventually became one of the most polluted rivers in the world. I think their working on trying to restore it somewhat. Used to be able to catch lobster along the coast of Los Angeles. I could tell you some similar stories about the Pajaro river near Watsonville, the Bahamas, the coast of Spain, Florida. Hell I can't drive down to the beach in Ft.Lauderdale anymore, no where to park. I'm told this is progress, can't stand still, got to move ahead. So what's the big deal about some fish and turtles. I guess I'm just getting old, I don't personally want to just stand still, I'd like to take a breath and back up a bit.
Ozzy619
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Couldnt agree more. Where I grew up in new mexico the oil companies like BP/Amoco and Meridian destroyed our family farm and the entire river valley with their drilling. We used to have a river full of fish and turtles, cant even drink the water there anymore or even bathe in it so we were forced to leave. Its pretty fucked up what we do to the environment for the name of capitalism and "moving ahead."
Mr. Deltoid
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To me capitalism is free markets. Markets free from government constraint and regulations. No minimum wage requirements , no mandates on companies except for some very basic worker protection acts. No big government contracts given to this company or that as "favor" only put out to bid and the lowest bidder with the capability to do the job wins. Right now in America you have so much cronyism and that's not free market capitalism. Big corporations get together with government to write regulation that makes it impossible for little start ups to compete. That's not free market. We need to get back to a truly freemarket. If two adults agree on a price to do a job what business is it of the government in a free society to dictate what the price should be? Miminimum wages kill jobs. That's a fact. The democrats know this that's why they want higher and higher minimum wages so more people are out of work and depend on government. No one is supposed to aspire to a minimum wage job that's supposed to be an entry level position. You shouldn't be starting a family if all you can get is a minimum wage job ! If we would run from these leftist ideas and run back to the free market our economy would explode there would be work for everyone and the democrats know this but that doesn't suit their interest if you don't need them they lose their power.
Yea, but we can't backtrack. We've had an immigration problem for a long time, which affects wages, and everyone's not as generous as you.. When you say free market and no regulations, I hope you are talking about here, in this country; and keeping it here. No maquiladora's, no NAFTA. I agree whole heartily with your viewpoint, but we've let the government get out of hand, let it get to big, gave it to much control. Your not getting anything back from them. Once they have it, they'll keep it.
Mr. Deltoid
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Your right my friend it's an uphill battle all the way it's going to get really bad before it gets any better. I'm hoping to pass the knowledge around , the internet is the key it's the only place to educate people and get them to think for themselves. It might be that we have to spill the blood of patriots to win back our freedoms.
Thomas Jefferson: "http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/The_tree_of_liberty...%28Quotation%29 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)."
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bdg77
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“When it can be said by any country in the world, my poor are happy, neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them, my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars, the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive, the rational world is my friend because I am the friend of happiness. When these things can be said, then may that country boast its constitution and government. Independence is my happiness, the world is my country and my religion is to do good.”
― Thomas Paine, Rights of Man
“If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify.”
― Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers
“Christianity may be good and Satanism evil. Under the Constitution, however, both are neutral. This is an important, but difficult, concept for many law enforcement officers to accept. They are paid to uphold the penal code, not the Ten Commandments … The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
“Dude, this transcends politics. George W. Bush is wiping his ass with the Constitution.”
― Kenneth G. Eade, https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/42701676
“The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, intact for over 200 years, guaranteed that the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath of affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. After September 11th, 2001, those were just words on an old piece of paper, no longer a restriction of the Government’s overreaching power to shake down its subjects.”
― Kenneth G. Eade, https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/42701676
“The Patriot Act has practically obliterated the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. It was supposed to be temporary, but there are so many things that the Government likes about the power that it gives, they keep renewing it.”
― Kenneth G. Eade, https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/42701676
“The Bill of Rights wasn’t enacted to give us any rights. It was enacted so the Government could not take away from us any rights that we already had.”
― Kenneth G. Eade, https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/42701676
I was looking for the quote about the constitution not being a document for the government to control the people. But one for the people to control the government. Found these little gems anyway. There's lot's more quotes at this link: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/constitution?page=1
In CA right now drought is a very serious issue. They want everybody to conserve every drop. The way I see it is that if there's not enough water then the issue is that there are too many people using it. Yet the population continues to grow. It's some serious shit. There should already be millions if not billions going into desalinization facilities. Our bipartisan government is impotent. They intrinsically disagree on everything which keeps any significant decisions from being made. Then we have a president completely overstepping his authority, going over congress and the senate like a dictator. Democrats want all the power concentrated in washington (bad idea) while republicans (and remember it is a republic we live in not a democrasy technically. Just as china is techicnally socialist not communist. True democrasy or communism have never existed they're both impossible as long as humans are invovled) want more power given to state governments. Getting the balance right is the key. The federal government doesn't even acknowledge state laws decriminalizing marijuana.
Mr. Deltoid
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Oh I'm sure they're looking at these exchanges all the time , my house is in order I pay my taxes I'm not advocating for any such action now however just stating it could come to pass. I believe in my heart Americans will wake up at some point and there will be a reckoning when they finally realized they've been duped. I actually believe that the immigrants from south of the border the ones the democrats are counting on to subjugate like they did the African American population are not going to be as easily played like they think. There are a lot of hard working conservative people in that group who have seen what corruption has done in their country's. My hope is enough of them see through the progressive bullshit and see the democrats and the media for the crooks and liars that they are.
Mr. Deltoid
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Bdg77 the federalist papers are a great read I highly recommend everyone to read them! Good post brother! That's another one of my pet peeves when idiots say we live in a democracy wrong! We live in a Republic , a much better system of government which protects the rights of individuals. A democracy is just majority rules and can crush and throw out the rights of the minority for the majority. In our Republic everyones rights are to be preserved even and especially the minority however that unfortunately hasn't been the case for a long time now. EDUCATE YOURSELVES AND YOUR FRIENDS AMERICA LETS TAKE BACK OUR REPUBLIC AND OUR RIGHTS!
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bdg77
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I sincerely hope you are right. The media is so disconnected from reality it's a joke. The news is like watching some bullshit reality tv show. They completely avoid talking about anything constructive and give the worrywarts what they want. Heaping doses of negativity. Maybe just to squeeze everylast drop of hope out of them. So they think everything is fucked and can't see the bigger picture and solutions that could be taken to make things better. The only news I ever watch is BBC america. Not that I enjoy the news but they at least talk about important things instead of petty things. Sounds like you have a good understanding of things and I agree with the points you have made. I just hope there are a lot more intelligent people like yourself out there. Seems the media caters to the lowest common demoninator and tries to make everyone look too stupid or ignorant to think for themselves.
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