The Decline of Western Civilation Continues Unimpeded on College Campuses

[TheGuy85]

Bdg77 the federalist papers are a great read I highly recommend everyone to read them! Good post brother! That's another one of my pet peeves when idiots say we live in a democracy wrong! We live in a Republic , a much better system of government which protects the rights of individuals. A democracy is just majority rules and can crush and throw out the rights of the minority for the majority. In our Republic everyones rights are to be preserved even and especially the minority however that unfortunately hasn't been the case for a long time now. EDUCATE YOURSELVES AND YOUR FRIENDS AMERICA LETS TAKE BACK OUR REPUBLIC AND OUR RIGHTS!

I think all hope is lost. Our police have militarized and are just murdering unarmed black people regularly. Stop and frisk and no knock warrants are fucking absurd, you have thugs in uniforms kicking down people's doors, pointing assault rifles at babies, and killing people's pets; all in an effort to fight this war on drugs. What's even worse is when they run in the wrong house (because they are fucking incompetent) and stick a gun in a little girls face and tell her this is what happens when your grandmother sells crack. Well too bad the only thing grandma might sell are some cookies to raise funds to help support her local church. These people are protecting us? Seeking justice? Protecting the weak? 25% of the world's incarcerated population resides in the United States, with a majority of offenders in prison for non violent, victimless crimes. Land of the free my ass. Nobody apparently gave a fuck to preserve our civil liberties and now this has become the new normal. Warfare, welfare, authoritarian police state.

White people haven't got a taste of it as bad as minorities, yet. But if I'm not mistaken weren't they shooting non violent hippy protestors with live ammunition during the Vietnam War? Fuck a peaceful protest, I'm not standing around, holding a fucking sign, chanting and shit, all while waiting for thugs with badges to maim or murder me. These peaceful protests don't seem very effective to me, the government should fear the people, not the other way around. But anybody that would seek to retaliate against a police state with the same force they are all too willingly to use on us, well that would be wrong.

Children are raised in public schools where they are drilled to always respect, and never question authority. That is exactly the opposite ideology upon which this country was founded upon. I guess history has been rewritten. Our elections are a fucking joke. This 2 party system is a farce. You have conservative republicans preaching small government, but every time one gets in office government and spending just expands. And liberal democrats, well....are liberal democrats. What is even worse about them is they push this progressive idealism but look at all the cronyism. And I don't understand how "tough on crime" (non violent crime?), a "war on drugs", and minimum mandatory sentencing could be viewed as fiscally conservative or socially liberal.

 

[kawilt]

I think all hope is lost. Our police have militarized and are just murdering unarmed black people regularly. Stop and frisk and no knock warrants are fucking absurd, you have thugs in uniforms kicking down people's doors, pointing assault rifles at babies, and killing people's pets; all in an effort to fight this war on drugs. What's even worse is when they run in the wrong house (because they are fucking incompetent) and stick a gun in a little girls face and tell her this is what happens when your grandmother sells crack. Well too bad the only thing grandma might sell are some cookies to raise funds to help support her local church. These people are protecting us? Seeking justice? Protecting the weak? 25% of the world's incarcerated population resides in the United States, with a majority of offenders in prison for non violent, victimless crimes. Land of the free my ass. Nobody apparently gave a fuck to preserve our civil liberties and now this has become the new normal. Warfare, welfare, authoritarian police state.

White people haven't got a taste of it as bad as minorities, yet. But if I'm not mistaken weren't they shooting non violent hippy protestors with live ammunition during the Vietnam War? Fuck a peaceful protest, I'm not standing around, holding a fucking sign, chanting and shit, all while waiting for thugs with badges to maim or murder me. These peaceful protests don't seem very effective to me, the government should fear the people, not the other way around. But anybody that would seek to retaliate against a police state with the same force they are all too willingly to use on us, well that would be wrong.

Children are raised in public schools where they are drilled to always respect, and never question authority. That is exactly the opposite ideology upon which this country was founded upon. I guess history has been rewritten. Our elections are a fucking joke. This 2 party system is a farce. You have conservative republicans preaching small government, but every time one gets in office government and spending just expands. And liberal democrats, well....are liberal democrats. What is even worse about them is they push this progressive idealism but look at all the cronyism. And I don't understand how "tough on crime" (non violent crime?), a "war on drugs", and minimum mandatory sentencing could be viewed as fiscally conservative or socially liberal.

It's pissing a lot of people off.
"the government should fear the people, not the other way around. But anybody that would seek to retaliate against a police state with the same force they are all too willingly to use on us, well that would be wrong."
The government does fear the people and the have legislated plenty of laws to be able to deal with us if need be.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

I think all hope is lost. Our police have militarized and are just murdering unarmed black people regularly. Stop and frisk and no knock warrants are fucking absurd, you have thugs in uniforms kicking down people's doors, pointing assault rifles at babies, and killing people's pets; all in an effort to fight this war on drugs. What's even worse is when they run in the wrong house (because they are fucking incompetent) and stick a gun in a little girls face and tell her this is what happens when your grandmother sells crack. Well too bad the only thing grandma might sell are some cookies to raise funds to help support her local church. These people are protecting us? Seeking justice? Protecting the weak? 25% of the world's incarcerated population resides in the United States, with a majority of offenders in prison for non violent, victimless crimes. Land of the free my ass. Nobody apparently gave a fuck to preserve our civil liberties and now this has become the new normal. Warfare, welfare, authoritarian police state.

White people haven't got a taste of it as bad as minorities, yet. But if I'm not mistaken weren't they shooting non violent hippy protestors with live ammunition during the Vietnam War? Fuck a peaceful protest, I'm not standing around, holding a fucking sign, chanting and shit, all while waiting for thugs with badges to maim or murder me. These peaceful protests don't seem very effective to me, the government should fear the people, not the other way around. But anybody that would seek to retaliate against a police state with the same force they are all too willingly to use on us, well that would be wrong.

Children are raised in public schools where they are drilled to always respect, and never question authority. That is exactly the opposite ideology upon which this country was founded upon. I guess history has been rewritten. Our elections are a fucking joke. This 2 party system is a farce. You have conservative republicans preaching small government, but every time one gets in office government and spending just expands. And liberal democrats, well....are liberal democrats. What is even worse about them is they push this progressive idealism but look at all the cronyism. And I don't understand how "tough on crime" (non violent crime?), a "war on drugs", and minimum mandatory sentencing could be viewed as fiscally conservative or socially liberal.

I agree with you on a lot of points however others I don't. No where near 25% of the world's population lives here. I do not agree with no knock warrents ,or the militarization of the police. But I don't think there are that many cases of police shooting unarmed black men just to do it or out of racism. This is the way the media seeks to decide us by making it seems that way. The thing in Ferguson was a completely justified shooting that cops face was smashed in on one side , he couldn't even see out of one eye and the kid put his head down and was charging him like a bull after he smashed his face in , what was he supposed to do let that kid bowl him over and beat him to death? Just like here in Florida with Treyvon Martin the media made it about race msnbc even got caught doctoring the tape to make it seem like the shooter said something racist when he didn't. Treyvon was on top of that other guy pounding his head into the ground , again what was the guy supposed to do lay there and take a beating? The media and the left have stirred up so much hatred in the black community towards whites that they're being raised constantly being told there are white forces out to keep you down and you can't get anywhere in America because your black. This is bullshit! I submit too you there is much more black on white racism today that there is white on black. And the black poor children have way more opportunities if they do good in school and apply themselves then poor white children. It's callled affirmative action and it's wrong! We should be a color blind society no one should get benifits others don't , we should be equal. I don't fault the black community for these problems I fault the progressive left and the government. Look for the agenda , think logically and for yourself don't fall for their bullshit!

 

[flenser]

@Mr. Deltoid I think you're missing the central theme from Ferguson. This was NOT an isolated incident...

"In the city of Ferguson, nearly everyone is a wanted criminal.

That may seem like hyperbole, but it is a literal fact. In Ferguson -- a city with a population of 21,000 -- 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

That statistic should be truly shocking. Yet in the wake of the Department of Justice's withering report on the city's policing practices, it has gone almost entirely unmentioned. News reports and analysis have focused on the racism discovered in departmental emails, and the gangsterish financial "shakedown" methods deployed against African Americans. In doing so, they have missed the full picture of Ferguson's operation, which reveals a totalizing police regime beyond any of Kafka's ghastliest nightmares."

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[Mr. Deltoid]

@Mr. Deltoid I think you're missing the central theme from Ferguson. This was NOT an isolated incident...

"In the city of Ferguson, nearly everyone is a wanted criminal.

That may seem like hyperbole, but it is a literal fact. In Ferguson -- a city with a population of 21,000 -- 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

That statistic should be truly shocking. Yet in the wake of the Department of Justice's withering report on the city's policing practices, it has gone almost entirely unmentioned. News reports and analysis have focused on the racism discovered in departmental emails, and the gangsterish financial "shakedown" methods deployed against African Americans. In doing so, they have missed the full picture of Ferguson's operation, which reveals a totalizing police regime beyond any of Kafka's ghastliest nightmares."

more...

I am completely against the militarization of our police.
I am completely against the war on drugs.
I am completely against the government treating any citizen different than another citizen , I believe we should all be taxed at the same rate a flat tax. I believe we should all be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
I get it , the federal government is way out of control , a lot of local governments are way out of control. The protections afforded us under the US constitution don't even apply anymore. The patriot act is completely unconstitutional , the tactics the police use in the war on drugs are completely unconstitutional. I get it , believe me I get it. I also believe that the media spins certain cases to fit the narrative and pit us against one another and that definitely happened in this case. This kid was out of control , he just strong armed a shop keeper. There were plenty of witnesses to him blasting the cop in the face shattering his orbital socket. This particular shooting was justified.

 

[flenser]

I am completely against the militarization of our police.
I am completely against the war on drugs.
I am completely against the government treating any citizen different than another citizen , I believe we should all be taxed at the same rate a flat tax. I believe we should all be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
I get it , the federal government is way out of control , a lot of local governments are way out of control. The protections afforded us under the US constitution don't even apply anymore. The patriot act is completely unconstitutional , the tactics the police use in the war on drugs are completely unconstitutional. I get it , believe me I get it. I also believe that the media spins certain cases to fit the narrative and pit us against one another and that definitely happened in this case. This kid was out of control , he just strong armed a shop keeper. There were plenty of witnesses to him blasting the cop in the face shattering his orbital socket. This particular shooting was justified.

So you wouldn't hire criminals to protect shop keepers, or have them rob and terrorize the population until they are hated and (justly) viewed as oppressors. BUT in that situation, you think it's perfectly alright for those criminals to harm the oppressed when they act out? I'm sure if I lived in such a place when I was a kid, I would be dead or in prison long before I became an adult.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

So you wouldn't hire criminals to protect shop keepers, or have them rob and terrorize the population until they are hated and (justly) viewed as oppressors. BUT in that situation, you think it's perfectly alright for those criminals to harm the oppressed when they act out? I'm sure if I lived in such a place when I was a kid, I would be dead or in prison long before I became an adult.

I think our government is out of control and definitely needs to be rained in. But nobody is being" oppressed " in the way the media and the left would have you believe. The progressive left have done such harm to the black community it is despicable. We are a country of laws and you can't just go into someones store push them down then take their goods. This bebehavior is justifiable to you? If there are grievances with the government you don't go blast the police officers in the face before he even gets out of his car? I don't buy into the left's potrayal of the USA. I am a libertarian and I want to shrink the size and scope of government , I want all drugs legalized for adults but I don't want lawlessness. I don't want thugs in the streets led by the media ginning up hatred for the sake of their agenda.

 

[flenser]

I think our government is out of control and definitely needs to be rained in. But nobody is being" oppressed " in the way the media and the left would have you believe. The progressive left have done such harm to the black community it is despicable. We are a country of laws and you can't just go into someones store push them down then take their goods. This bebehavior is justifiable to you? If there are grievances with the government you don't go blast the police officers in the face before he even gets out of his car? I don't buy into the left's potrayal of the USA. I am a libertarian and I want to shrink the size and scope of government , I want all drugs legalized for adults but I don't want lawlessness. I don't want thugs in the streets led by the media ginning up hatred for the sake of their agenda.

I guess you didn't read the article.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

I guess you didn't read the article.

I don't believe the media , not for a second so I take the article with a grain of salt.

 

[Dr JIM]

I take anything out of the Huffington Post and the Atlantic with a grain of salt!

 

[kawilt]

Does anybody have any news sources they "trust"? at least enough to get some of the things right some of the time without to much slant?

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Does anybody have any news sources they "trust"? at least enough to get some of the things right some of the time without to much slant?

The Fox news anchors are I would say the most reliable but even they have a progressive arm for the right. I trust The Blaze I don't agree with Glen Beck on everything but I do believe he's honest and I do believe his news arm of the blaze can be trusted as I fact check everything and have never in 4years cought them in spin. Or outright lying or ingnoring stories because they don't fit an agenda. Plus that's the only media person that will tell you don't trust me do your own homework and they provide links tell you where to look for answers. But I blindly trust no media we must always question them all.

 

[kawilt]

Thank's D I'll check it out!

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Thank's D I'll check it out!

I'll warn you up front kawilt I respect you and your opinions , some of the opinion shows on the blaze are pro Israel.

 

[kawilt]

Nobody's perfect!

 

[TheGuy85]

To clarify, I wasn't saying 25% of the world's population but instead 25% of the worlds incarcerated people. About 1% of Americans are incarcerated, which is really high...well the highest. Also I wouldn't necessarily play the race card when it comes to police violence because I'm sure they are willing to do the same to whites, but that wouldn't go over well. Police harassment is very real in poor neighborhoods. The war on drugs has become a war on U.S. citizens. The war on drugs has almost guaranteed little to no cooperation between police and minorities (except the snitches I suppose). It isn't fair to necessarily throw blame on all law enforcement though. http://www.leap.cc

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

To clarify, I wasn't saying 25% of the world's population but instead 25% of the worlds incarcerated people. About 1% of Americans are incarcerated, which is really high...well the highest. Also I wouldn't necessarily play the race card when it comes to police violence because I'm sure they are willing to do the same to whites, but that wouldn't go over well. Police harassment is very real in poor neighborhoods. The war on drugs has become a war on U.S. citizens. The war on drugs has almost guaranteed little to no cooperation between police and minorities (except the snitches I suppose). It isn't fair to necessarily throw blame on all law enforcement though. http://www.leap.cc

Ok. But you are very wrong when you say them mistreating poor white wouldn't go over well. Quite the opposite did you know the same week as Ferguson a unarmed white man who didn't even touch the cop wasn't even close to him was shot and killed by a black police officer. Poor whites are almost definitely the victims of more unjustified police violent action then blacks. It doesn't fit the medias narrative so it doesn't even make the news but it happens every day.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Does anybody have any news sources they "trust"? at least enough to get some of the things right some of the time without to much slant?

Here's what you're missing: When Dr Jim rejects the Atlantic and the Huffing-and-Puffington Post, it's on ideological grounds. When I reject Global Research and the anti-Semitic Mondoweiss, it's because they write fiction.

The Atlantic and the Huffing-and-Puffington Post are left leaning publications and their content will usually have a leftist slant, but the facts they use will be truthful. Global Research and the anti-Semitic Mondoweiss are conspiratorial, moon bat publications and the "facts" they use are made up. That's why the first two are are considered legitimate news publications and the second two are not.

A biased author might cherry pick the facts he uses in order to make his case. Global Research and the anti-Semitic Mondoweiss will invent facts to make theirs.

All news sources have bias but only the legitimate ones are credible. The difference is huge.

 

[TheGuy85]

Ok. But you are very wrong when you say them mistreating poor white wouldn't go over well. Quite the opposite did you know the same week as Ferguson a unarmed white man who didn't even touch the cop wasn't even close to him was shot and killed by a black police officer. Poor whites are almost definitely the victims of more unjustified police violent action then blacks. It doesn't fit the medias narrative so it doesn't even make the news but it happens every day.

If police violence is spilling over into white communities that is even more disturbing . That would seem to indicate that the police state doesn't even fear the racial majority (a racial majority that has a shit load of guns). I know it is just a matter of time before a black and hispanic problem becomes a white problem as far as police aggression is concerned. Look at how the Feds are dealing with people who don't pay taxes. Giving people several years in prison for non violent/victimless crimes is rather extreme in my opinion, whether it be for drug related offenses or tax evasion. I don't see how anyone can honestly believe that lengthy prison sentences in American prisons is at all humane, and since the majority of offenders in these prisons are non violent criminals, this should be a huge concern. Another question is whether or not a "crime" can even be committed when there is no victim.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Here's what you're missing: When Dr Jim rejects the Atlantic and the Huffing-and-Puffington Post, it's on ideological grounds. When I reject Global Research and the anti-Semitic Mondoweiss, it's because they write fiction.

The Atlantic and the Huffing-and-Puffington Post are left leaning publications and their content will usually have a leftist slant, but the facts they use will be truthful. Global Research and the anti-Semitic Mondoweiss are conspiratorial, moon bat publications and the "facts" they use are made up. That's why the first two are are considered legitimate news publications and the second two are not.

A biased author might cherry pick the facts he uses in order to make his case. Global Research and the anti-Semitic Mondoweiss will invent facts to make theirs.

All news sources have bias but only the legitimate ones are credible. The difference is huge.

Oh I disagree the huffington puffington post does print outright lies as does the Atlantic maybe not to the extent of these antisemitic rags but they do lie. Another thing they do daily in every story in omit pertinent facts , facts that would change the narrative they are desperately trying to create. If you tell a story without context and you leave out huge chunks of pertinent information you might as well be outright lying. hufpo and the atlantic do this daily and all over the place.