This is why TRT kicks ass for old guys like me

Dorian has half of a right rotator cuff by the way...that is one reason....he still stays fit & is a cool and unconventional dude.
Says he does a lot of yoga now. Out of all bodybuilders I'm probably the biggest fan of Dorian myself. The guy is down to earth and tells it like it needs to be told. He's like a guy who does his thing, makes money, but doesn't let money ruin him. He's just humble
 
Says he does a lot of yoga now. Out of all bodybuilders I'm probably the biggest fan of Dorian myself. The guy is down to earth and tells it like it needs to be told. He's like a guy who does his thing, makes money, but doesn't let money ruin him. He's just humble

I listened to the entire 3 hours. Excellent stuff. Check out London Real as well...fantastic
 
So, I think I'm going down to 140 mg a week vs 280 & see if the doc will prescribe 300 mg a week. Figure i can take 150 mg a week until he stretches out the time between bloodwork. Heck, I may stock pile the test, but I don't believe 300 mg a week would benefit my health....

One 12 week cycle of 450-600 mg a week once a year would be fun though. Heck I may get wild and crazynand throw in a little Var or , if Im really fealling crazy, Mast...sorry, I don't like Tren, but I would like NPP perhaps.
 
Well, I had a go at it & the body told me to stop....I'll take a month break and hit it hard after a little vacation...getting old blows sack!
Your right, getting old sucks but on the upside you are wise enough now to listen to your body, when you are young you tend not to - then its INJURY TIME!
Good luck with recovery
 
Your right, getting old sucks but on the upside you are wise enough now to listen to your body, when you are young you tend not to - then its INJURY TIME!
Good luck with recovery

Appreciate it. Experience definately comes with age. If something doesnt feel right these days...Im out! 20 years ago, I would have done 3 more sets...hell, I would have recovered 20 years ago. It simply is what it is & hurting yourself merely sets you back further...month break and I'll reassess
 
I've been thinking of incorporating mobility training into my routine because of my bumps and bruises. Any of you ever try it? Waste of time? Worth it's weight in gold?
 
I've been thinking of incorporating mobility training into my routine because of my bumps and bruises. Any of you ever try it? Waste of time? Worth it's weight in gold?
I occasionally do a yoga class and the results are incredible. It's made me stronger in the weight room, you develop a new pain threshold and push weights harder and for more reps.
 
And I apologize if I'm derailing the thread op. Wasn't my intention. Just saw a couple old farts in here and thought I would expand on the subject.

You didn't derail the thread at all. I appreciate your comments. Hopefully those of us over 40 can help each other enjoy life to its fullest (I know I want to feel as good as possible until the day I die, so anything that will assist in accomplishing that goal is welcomed. Personally, I would like to try new things like yoga & learn more about mobility training).
 
You didn't derail the thread at all. I appreciate your comments. Hopefully those of us over 40 can help each other enjoy life to its fullest (I know I want to feel as good as possible until the day I die, so anything that will assist in accomplishing that goal is welcomed. Personally, I would like to try new things like yoga & learn more about mobility training).
Yoga really helps a lot. My sleep is always better when I do it regularly, my flexibility is better, my mind is relaxed also. But you'll really see the benefit from doing it and then weight training. Your range of motion improves and the new pain threshold you can push to is beyond ridiculous. I'm talking stuff I used to fail at 15 reps with i was taking into the 20's
 
I can only do so much. I have to pick squats or Deadlift and I can only do them every other week.
If I do it too consistently my back and hip pain immobilize me for about a week.

I remember not even that long ago I could hit 2 squat sessions a week and work legs 3 times in a week :(

Glad to hear you're feeling great and your recovery time has improved! Don't push too hard just yet.
This. Im only speculating your time in the service did its damage. I can relate.
I dropped deadlifts entirely in favor of keeping a healthy lower back. They can be replaced effectively with numerous exercises. Squats CANNOT be replaced. They are essential. I can even do legs everyday, which i did on WC program he posted here. Ive even been able to rehabilitate my back by switching to front squats as my primary leg exercise. Even so i have strengthened my lower back as a secondary effect of heavy front squatting. Which allows me to keep on keepin on. No pain = quality of life.
 
This. Im only speculating your time in the service did its damage. I can relate.
I dropped deadlifts entirely in favor of keeping a healthy lower back. They can be replaced effectively with numerous exercises. Squats CANNOT be replaced. They are essential. I can even do legs everyday, which i did on WC program he posted here. Ive even been able to rehabilitate my back by switching to front squats as my primary leg exercise. Even so i have strengthened my lower back as a secondary effect of heavy front squatting. Which allows me to keep on keepin on. No pain = quality of life.
One thing I picked up from watching John Meadows is the banded hyperextensions. Those are highly effective also
 
This. Im only speculating your time in the service did its damage. I can relate.
I dropped deadlifts entirely in favor of keeping a healthy lower back. They can be replaced effectively with numerous exercises. Squats CANNOT be replaced. They are essential. I can even do legs everyday, which i did on WC program he posted here. Ive even been able to rehabilitate my back by switching to front squats as my primary leg exercise. Even so i have strengthened my lower back as a secondary effect of heavy front squatting. Which allows me to keep on keepin on. No pain = quality of life.

Yeah it's had its wear and tear.

Front squats is definitely something I need to pick back up. Today is leg day so I'll start with them.
For a while I was doing super light stuff and doing 20 reps for legs. Don't really like that but it was pain free for the most part.
 
Yeah it's had its wear and tear.

Front squats is definitely something I need to pick back up. Today is leg day so I'll start with them.
For a while I was doing super light stuff and doing 20 reps for legs. Don't really like that but it was pain free for the most part.
I found high rep work is what causes my nerves to inflame again and cause that dead lower back feeling with helpless pain that just makes you want to wish for a bullet. I can with stand 5 heavy reps. 3 is more ideal. 20 rep range im asking for a hospital visit. With all the damn problems ive had and all the help i seeked the front squat is what had the BIGGEST influence on rehabilitating it. Why? I figure the form of sitting almost completely upright in the FS is what helped me get back to fighting form. YOU CANNOT FS BENT AT THE WAIST. Like the BS forces you too. Healthier on the back.

The deadlift can be replaced man. We know deadlifts build a strong posterior chain. So lets break it down. Traps can be built with rack pulls. Which are done safely above the floor lvl. Where there is minimal lower back strain. Hamstrings can be built with high rep romanians and stiff legged deads and curls. Glutes can be built thru squats and kickbacks and a host of other compound movements. So if your forced to choose health over ego. Drop the deadlifts without question. I would bet if i gave you a back shot of mine including the entire posterior chain in the picture you would guess im a deadlifter:D
Except im not. Anymore.:D

Ive even been able to rebuild my back to the point of doing bent barbell rows with badass form. Approaching the vaunted 405 for reps.
I wouldnt have been able to do that had i still embraced the iron dogma of "deadlifts or die" .
Save your back man.
 
This. Im only speculating your time in the service did its damage. I can relate.
I dropped deadlifts entirely in favor of keeping a healthy lower back. They can be replaced effectively with numerous exercises. Squats CANNOT be replaced. They are essential. I can even do legs everyday, which i did on WC program he posted here. Ive even been able to rehabilitate my back by switching to front squats as my primary leg exercise. Even so i have strengthened my lower back as a secondary effect of heavy front squatting. Which allows me to keep on keepin on. No pain = quality of life.

Unfortunately, my knees are shot from years of catching (from little league - college) & playing football. Twelve or so years ago I incorporated powerlifting into my workouts and that is when I realized my knees and back were trashed (I promise, provided you have good form, heavy squats, deadlifts & power cleans will not hurt you, but will expose areas that have suffered long term damage...low back and knees for me ).

Even though our muscles have tremendous memory, you are correct based on my experience (unless you are genetically blessed), if you dont squat you can't get your lower half back to where it once was when you did squat. Sure leg presses, extensions, hack squats, and what not are fine and all, but I firmly believe you cannot replace squats.

I have accepted the fact that my legs won't be as big as they once were and my back will never be as wide and dense as it was (no more deadlifts for me), but that doesn't mean I'll stop trying to get better with exercises that are "smarter" for me.

Also, goals change as you get older. My goal is no longer to be the biggest & strongest dude in the gym. I want to be as string as possible without hurting myself. Dear of injury didn't exist in my early 30s, but it is a reality now that I'm in my 40s.
 
I found high rep work is what causes my nerves to inflame again and cause that dead lower back feeling with helpless pain that just makes you want to wish for a bullet. I can with stand 5 heavy reps. 3 is more ideal. 20 rep range im asking for a hospital visit. With all the damn problems ive had and all the help i seeked the front squat is what had the BIGGEST influence on rehabilitating it. Why? I figure the form of sitting almost completely upright in the FS is what helped me get back to fighting form. YOU CANNOT FS BENT AT THE WAIST. Like the BS forces you too. Healthier on the back.

The deadlift can be replaced man. We know deadlifts build a strong posterior chain. So lets break it down. Traps can be built with rack pulls. Which are done safely above the floor lvl. Where there is minimal lower back strain. Hamstrings can be built with high rep romanians and stiff legged deads and curls. Glutes can be built thru squats and kickbacks and a host of other compound movements. So if your forced to choose health over ego. Drop the deadlifts without question. I would bet if i gave you a back shot of mine including the entire posterior chain in the picture you would guess im a deadlifter:D
Except im not. Anymore.:D

Ive even been able to rebuild my back to the point of doing bent barbell rows with badass form. Approaching the vaunted 405 for reps.
I wouldnt have been able to do that had i still embraced the iron dogma of "deadlifts or die" .
Save your back man.
Deadlifts can definitely mess up my recovery time!!! The next day I feel like I've been hit by a truck!!! Also, there have been a lot of top bodybuilders who don't do them or if they do it's extremely light , so that's proof right there that you can build a monstrous back without killing yourself on deads
 
Deadlifts can definitely mess up my recovery time!!! The next day I feel like I've been hit by a truck!!! Also, there have been a lot of top bodybuilders who don't do them or if they do it's extremely light , so that's proof right there that you can build a monstrous back without killing yourself on deads
The posterior chain is overlapped by many upper back and lower body exercises. Getting direct stimulation from pushing and pulling movements. Its not that deads are terrible but goddam they fuck alot of ppl up! Unless its a competitive lift for you in a PL meet i propose, why do them? And that totally sucks cuz i was sold hook line and sinker with deads all my early yrs. Ride or die ya know? Till you experience that pain. Then it effects your training. Then you gotta make a change.
 
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