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Time for some size!

May lower Deca Dose and see if that helps, going to cut it in half….

Will not be pinning deca for a week, see if that helps.

This is brutal….so lethargic and depressed…

Idk if its over training???
 
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jJjburton said:
I feel like complete trash….i even took two days off but dam, it is not helping…

Maybe its the doses….going to let my estrogen raise up a bit.


Feel achy, feel fatigue, feel like garbage….

Look amazing though…
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Hope you get straightened out buddy.
 
Off Cycle BP 130/90….just got it checked today…

Also i am just cruising on test now…as i am trying to figure out where this depression/fatigue is coming from…

But the cruise is 500 mg…

I am holding weight at 240 lbs…

My intensity is still there…

I starting doing heavier less sets, but not sure if thats a good idea, i grew to a good size from other modalities of instensity…drop sets super set…

Maybe this change in heavy working sets along with more hours working and busy schedule has accumulated alot of fatigue…

So going to do a break of lifting weights. Just yoga, cardio, foam rolling.

My thyroid is solid….

I dropped the deca….

But i am down and depressed and lacking energy in my day to day things…

I also upped my cals for a bit.

Also reinstated hgh today at 3 ius, AM fasted
 
jJjburton said:
Off Cycle BP 130/90….just got it checked today…

Also i am just cruising on test now…as i am trying to figure out where this depression/fatigue is coming from…

But the cruise is 500 mg…

I am holding weight at 240 lbs…

My intensity is still there…

I starting doing heavier less sets, but not sure if thats a good idea, i grew to a good size from other modalities of instensity…drop sets super set…

Maybe this change in heavy working sets along with more hours working and busy schedule has accumulated alot of fatigue…

So going to do a break of lifting weights. Just yoga, cardio, foam rolling.

My thyroid is solid….

I dropped the deca….

But i am down and depressed and lacking energy in my day to day things…

I also upped my cals for a bit.

Also reinstated hgh today at 3 ius, AM fasted
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I wonder if Semax would help you?
 
jJjburton said:
Off Cycle BP 130/90….just got it checked today…

Also i am just cruising on test now…as i am trying to figure out where this depression/fatigue is coming from…

But the cruise is 500 mg…

I am holding weight at 240 lbs…

My intensity is still there…

I starting doing heavier less sets, but not sure if thats a good idea, i grew to a good size from other modalities of instensity…drop sets super set…

Maybe this change in heavy working sets along with more hours working and busy schedule has accumulated alot of fatigue…

So going to do a break of lifting weights. Just yoga, cardio, foam rolling.

My thyroid is solid….

I dropped the deca….

But i am down and depressed and lacking energy in my day to day things…

I also upped my cals for a bit.

Also reinstated hgh today at 3 ius, AM fasted
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You are not off cycle. First, you are cruising at 500/week? And you just stopped Deca? The half life of Deca is up to two weeks. Meaning whatever you inject, half of it is still going to be released into your bloodstream after two weeks.

Back when I used to come off, I came off and a month later I thought I was fully recovered because I was adding weight to the bar in the gym. What was really happening was Deca was still making me stronger. Still. A month out.


jJjburton, I mean this with no disrespect, but I do not think you have ever been "off cycle." I plead with you to consider going off cycle at some point for at least a couple of months for your own health. That means injecting nothing or at most about 100mg a week of testosterone only.

Give your body a chance to work the way God designed it to work for a while.

Eat well, train, cardio, and sleep well. Enjoy life for a while.

The steroids will still be there when you come back.
 
malfeasance said:
You are not off cycle. First, you are cruising at 500/week? And you just stopped Deca? The half life of Deca is up to two weeks. Meaning whatever you inject, half of it is still going to be released into your bloodstream after two weeks.

Back when I used to come off, I came off and a month later I thought I was fully recovered because I was adding weight to the bar in the gym. What was really happening was Deca was still making me stronger. Still. A month out.


jJjburton, I mean this with no disrespect, but I do not think you have ever been "off cycle." I plead with you to consider going off cycle at some point for at least a couple of months for your own health. That means injecting nothing or at most about 100mg a week of testosterone only.

Give your body a chance to work the way God designed it to work for a while.

Eat well, train, cardio, and sleep well. Enjoy life for a while.

The steroids will still be there when you come back.
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I did come off and just ran trt, (true trt) january 3 until my surgery healed. I was completely off and only on TRT from jan 3 to june.
 
Bloodwork came back solid and all numbers went down that we took from last time… only thing is AST and ALT are both at 100…

free t4 at 1.4
TSH at 3.06

Are these ok? They are technically in range…
 
jJjburton said:
Bloodwork came back solid and all numbers went down that we took from last time… only thing is AST and ALT are both at 100…

free t4 at 1.4
TSH at 3.06

Are these ok? They are technically in range…
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While I have never had AST or ALT at 100, I have had them high out of range. My doctor got me all freaked out that I had killed my liver. I was supposed to go see a specialist. I went online and started pulling research articles. It took a long time, but I finally found articles about intense training, athletes, and AST and ALT markers.

Using that information, I took 4 days off training. No weight lifting. No cardio.

Then I tested AST and ALT.

Both were within the normal range.

So if you wanted any advice from me, regarding concerns over AST and ALT, I would say to take four days off and retest. If they are still elevated, then maybe have some concern and a look into other potential causes.
 
No gym today either….

Finally am done with my deload week, i did 4 days of the 7 off, and did yoga and walking instead, i start again tomorrow…

Gym routine back…

Going to focus on some working sets and ending with drop sets, intensifiers… going to do this for a bit as i added a ton of solid weight and muscle very fast and want to gain but keep it safe…

So i will be keeping the max weight i did for 6-7 reps in all categories of lifts and not go any higher for a while, and then drop set them and super set…
 
malfeasance said:
While I have never had AST or ALT at 100, I have had them high out of range. My doctor got me all freaked out that I had killed my liver. I was supposed to go see a specialist. I went online and started pulling research articles. It took a long time, but I finally found articles about intense training, athletes, and AST and ALT markers.

Using that information, I took 4 days off training. No weight lifting. No cardio.

Then I tested AST and ALT.

Both were within the normal range.

So if you wanted any advice from me, regarding concerns over AST and ALT, I would say to take four days off and retest. If they are still elevated, then maybe have some concern and a look into other potential causes.
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Ok awesome, will do so next time, and retake when that time comes.
 
malfeasance said:
While I have never had AST or ALT at 100, I have had them high out of range. My doctor got me all freaked out that I had killed my liver. I was supposed to go see a specialist. I went online and started pulling research articles. It took a long time, but I finally found articles about intense training, athletes, and AST and ALT markers.

Using that information, I took 4 days off training. No weight lifting. No cardio.

Then I tested AST and ALT.

Both were within the normal range.

So if you wanted any advice from me, regarding concerns over AST and ALT, I would say to take four days off and retest. If they are still elevated, then maybe have some concern and a look into other potential causes.
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I appreciate you trying but it falls on deaf ears. I have stated this before, even when he had terrible bloodwork and he continued his cycles. And yes, always on a blast of some sort.

I'm afraid it's going to take an adverse event for him to learn. I hope not but eventually his body will break at some point. I really hope new members don't think this is normal because its opposite of harm reduction use.
 
T&H said:
I appreciate you trying but it falls on deaf ears. I have stated this before, even when he had terrible bloodwork and he continued his cycles. And yes, always on a blast of some sort.

I'm afraid it's going to take an adverse event for him to learn. I hope not but eventually his body will break at some point. I really hope new members don't think this is normal because its opposite of harm reduction use.
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I agree with alot of this….

That said my last bloodwork was really solid…

And i do appreciate the concern…

Every other number was actually in range. Besides cholesterol.

But my doctor was happy with the results, and did not say anything at all regarding them.
 
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