Didnt know about pep, thought he called scam on stretch before the shit hit the fan?
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He did call scam at first. He then later apologized to Stretch and vowed to help Stretch get to the bottom of things, and declared him g2g. He usually forgets that part when he is patting himself on the back and licking his own balls.
He had to go deep undercover to try and further expose the scam. 007 type shit. 
Haha no plans of a bogo as of yet. We have talked about some sales but those probably wont happen for a while yet. Wanna get a better feel for demand and make sure we aren't taking on more than we need, especially with a bogo.
Alright guys Im back. Had a busy day. Glad to see everyone still acting as civil adults
As far as PGP, here is my opinion. I am using an open PGP email and if you are, which you should be, then it makes the process a lot more streamlined.
I dont see a need for pgp to be honest. Using pgp and posting your public key is like having a top secret document safe and storing the key to it in a pouch on the front of the safe.
If anyone is paying even the slightest attention and wants to read emails and you have your public key posted, then they can read it. And if they are intercepting your emails with the intent to read them then using pgp in this fashion will not even slow them down.
Now, if you were to use pgp between a friend of yours and never wrote the keys down but only kept them verbal/in your head. Then that would provide a lot of protection.
So...our contact email is titanlabs@countermail.com
I will post order codes momentarily
So Titan - do we need a PGP key to order or not , you seem to be contradicting yourself on the subject . Is Safemail good enough or what ? ......Simplify please . ~Ogh
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IthinkI_likeu
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I'm not too bothered by it, since I don't think someone's understanding of public key cryptography speaks to their ability to brew clean gear. But since hardly anyone has addressed it yet, Titan has incorrectly characterized how pgp works. Publishing your public key does not make your messages vulnerable to being decypted, as far as we know from what exploits exist in the current literature. Wikipedia the term "trap door function". Nonetheless, I'm more interested that the guy's gear tests well and is clean than if he knows how pgp works.
Kubrick
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When did he strongly support pep? I don't remember that. I saw where he called pep good before shit hit the fan. I've talked to the guy privately and he knows his stuff. I really thought he was bigger Ben. I think I have a hunch who it might be. As far as I know he has never been here to support scammers. Who knows.
TruBodybuilder1989
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Ordered 30ml test-e from Titan, pack shipped yesterday when we talked. Will keep everyone updated.
TruBodybuilder1989
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Org,
On your safe-mail have you activated your digital cert? It makes you full PKI automatically on everything. Make it more secure, just didn't know if you knew.
Come on Kubrick, always going outta yer way to defend or compliment dbolman..
And Ben wasn't dbolman, you know better than that. Ben and I talked about dbolman off of the forum. Ben is a straight shooter - he wouldn't have talked about dbolman in the 3rd person if it was him.
I am not saying he tries to support/promote scammers. I am saying he has declared some labs g2g, who then went on to scam people. And go look at dbolman's posts. He definitely attacked a member who called PEP a scammer and called the person a whiney bitch for calling PEP out. How do you NOT call that strongly defending PEP when he attacks someone for questioning him?
What is your take on a member creating multiple handles and then having conversations between their multiple handles? Is that someone you support? Is that something Ben would do?
Hey TruBB - dont know what the fk you just said but I'll go look it up on Safemail ....Thanks ~Ogh
Some people give this dbol tool too much credit for something others were already suspicious of behind the scenes. He has been given far too much attention.
Kubrick
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Come on Kubrick, always going outta yer way to defend or compliment dbolman..
And Ben wasn't dbolman, you know better than that. Ben and I talked about dbolman off of the forum. Ben is a straight shooter - he wouldn't have talked about dbolman in the 3rd person if it was him.
I am not saying he tries to support/promote scammers. I am saying he has declared some labs g2g, who then went on to scam people. And go look at dbolman's posts. He definitely attacked a member who called PEP a scammer and called the person a whiney bitch for calling PEP out. How do you NOT call that strongly defending PEP when he attacks someone for questioning him?
What is your take on a member creating multiple handles and then having conversations between their multiple handles? Is that someone you support? Is that something Ben would do?
I guess we all have our own experiences with him. I don't have any beef with him. He seemed pretty cool via PM. I don't really care either way at this point. I'm not here to make friends.
Ps... BiggerBen loved that guy. That's why I thought it was him originally. He has praised him via PM and out in the open. It's all too confusing. Lol
TruBodybuilder1989
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PKI is a great standard security measure to have, you should be better protected now. Also i have a paid safe-mail for more space, but I opted for the higher security option where safe-mail cannont access my accout if I forget my password etc. I paid 25$ a year.
dbolman's techniques were bizzare and he was admittedly using multiple accounts but the reason he gave me was to protect his identity from Stretch. I never understood why he kept dbolman alive after Stretch was finished since that was the sole purpose of creating him.
All his nonsense aside, dbolman had a lot of incriminating evidence on Stretch - "real-world" evidence. All the info he gave me came from outside Meso and it was credible enough to convince me that that Stretch and his partner were serial scammers and that they were indeed behind Hercules. Stretch and his partner viewed Meso's members with derision, laughing that they were so easy to fool.
I kind of suspect that Bio turning scammer when they did was not well planned and was possibly started prematurely for unknown reasons - perhaps relations were becoming strained between Stretch and his partner. The fact that Stretch ripped his partner off for $10,000 during that time suggests that might be the case. The reason they didn't succeed was due to an early awareness by members as well as Stretch making critical mistakes early on that led to suspicion, so it was foiled before it got off the ground.
The group buy scam was stopped only because Mugzy made it known that there would be serious repercussions for Stretch. Most members have no idea how much work and investigation was going on behind the scenes. I met with Mugzy, Regular and Ben at a private site where we shared evidence and planned strategy (I'm not giving away any secrets here since Ben has already posted about this). Mugz and Regular were determined to prevent Stretch from succeeding and they did.
Regardless of how strange or contradictory dbolman's behavior was before and after, or how some members feel about him, there is no denying the role he played behind the scenes by providing "real-world" evidence that helped expose the real Stretch. And for that, I give him credit.
CBS
All his nonsense aside, dbolman had a lot of incriminating evidence on Stretch - "real-world" evidence. All the info he gave me came from outside Meso and it was credible enough to convince me that that Stretch and his partner were serial scammers and that they were indeed behind Hercules. Stretch and his partner viewed Meso's members with derision, laughing that they were so easy to fool.
I kind of suspect that Bio turning scammer when they did was not well planned and was possibly started prematurely for unknown reasons - perhaps relations were becoming strained between Stretch and his partner. The fact that Stretch ripped his partner off for $10,000 during that time suggests that might be the case. The reason they didn't succeed was due to an early awareness by members as well as Stretch making critical mistakes early on that led to suspicion, so it was foiled before it got off the ground.
The group buy scam was stopped only because Mugzy made it known that there would be serious repercussions for Stretch. Most members have no idea how much work and investigation was going on behind the scenes. I met with Mugzy, Regular and Ben at a private site where we shared evidence and planned strategy (I'm not giving away any secrets here since Ben has already posted about this). Mugz and Regular were determined to prevent Stretch from succeeding and they did.
Regardless of how strange or contradictory dbolman's behavior was before and after, or how some members feel about him, there is no denying the role he played behind the scenes by providing "real-world" evidence that helped expose the real Stretch. And for that, I give him credit.
CBS
So what your really saying is Mugz is dbolman
wink wink.... my insatiable curiosity has me interested LoL anyway I thought dbolman called out stretch. Stretch was a smooth talker. I communicated with him several times with pm. Scamming fuck actually sent my gear..... and his preferred payment?? Cant believe how I paid him. I must have been high.
whodatnation
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Your post needs to be read by everyone here. Some just don't know how crazy that situation was. I wasn't as close to everyone then as I am now but there is some crazy stuff that bb has shared with me on that after the fact. That situation alone cemented
My faith in this board and its people. That was when I became a contributing member or at least tried to be lol.
Thanks for sharing cbs as it will help some understand that time a little better
My faith in this board and its people. That was when I became a contributing member or at least tried to be lol.
Thanks for sharing cbs as it will help some understand that time a little better
whodatnation
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He was smooth. Before Hercules crashed stretch hit me via pm after I posted in the Hercules thread asking why he had such a huge change in the color of his tren. Stretch informed me that Hercules was having to go through bio to fill orders and that was bio tren , btw it was Damn good to, and let him know what I thought. I tossed and turned over this pm and went to the bio thread and talked myself out of reporting it because most the board outright love of bio.
Never again though
Never again though
Stretch was very sophisticated at manipulating people and was willing to invest a great deal of time into his schemes. When did Herc go bad - middle of September? I, along with a few others, received a July PM from Stretch (July was at the height of Hercs popularity). Stretch stated in that PM that he knew Hercules' gear had problems and he wanted advice on what he should do. That was TWO MONTHS before Herc turned scammer.
His PM was under the guise of him being concerned about his reputation taking a hit for backing Herc but that seems unlikely since his reputation was bulletproof at that time. Stretch had many good friends and followers on Meso but the members he PM'd for advice were those who weren't in his camp.
Why?
I believe Stretch was looking for cover for when Herc went down. By confessing his concerns about Herc to the members who weren't in the Stretch fan club well before the scam hit, he was hoping it would head-off any chance that those members would question his involvement latter.
What's important here is that after that PM, Stretch never acted on the advice he was given. In fact, he remained completely silent (in public, at least) on Herc's problems until the scam broke. However, as we latter found out, rather than distance himself from a source he knew was having problems, he moved even closer by supposedly supplying Herc with Bio gear.
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Okay. So I have had 2 reports this week from members questioning Hercules' gear. Specifically dosing. Add in S4s questionable report and the situation gets kinda fuzzy.
You guys realize why I am in an awkward position here.
On one hand, I feel obligated to post up the questionable reports because I have recommended him since running his gear and believing it to be legit. What he sent me was definitely legit.
But, exposing the issue will certainly come off as though I was simply recommending him to build my own reputation as honest, and now I am gonna tear him down before going public.
Thoughts?
Suggestions?
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