Titan Labs

[Titanlabs]

Thanks for the bloods lightspan. That level is definitely lower than I would like to see and lower than my bloods have turned back at.

However, everyone is different. Ive seen a few bloods around that number for the same amount and if you were taking an AI or not will influence that number.

If you are wanting to see max serum levels, test e peaks at around 48 hours so it would have already started to decline. A level of around 2500 would be reasonable to expect at peak serum levels so given personal factors, AI, and that they were taken after 48 hours, these are definitely low but not immediately alarming.

That dose of test has personally put me around 3300.

All of that said, I would like to see another test and if anyone else is running test e and willing to get bloods, I will reimburse them with store credit. That goes for lightspan as well as far as reimbursement.

Im in the process of hopefully getting a mass spec lined up so the test will be the first thing I have done and that will provide more feedback as far as those numbers go.

TL

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Yeah. I'd expect a good 3500-3600 level out of 600/week of good test. You'll feel pretty good at 2000 though and without labs we wouldn't have known. That's where the limitations of labmax come into play.

Well.... Let's not sweat the specifics but with the dosage and the 5 weeks on it really should've been closer to 5000-6000...

 

[flenser]

Wow, just wow...

 

[flenser]

Thanks for the bloods lightspan. That level is definitely lower than I would like to see and lower than my bloods have turned back at.

However, everyone is different. Ive seen a few bloods around that number for the same amount and if you were taking an AI or not will influence that number.

If you are wanting to see max serum levels, test e peaks at around 48 hours so it would have already started to decline. A level of around 2500 would be reasonable to expect at peak serum levels so given personal factors, AI, and that they were taken after 48 hours, these are definitely low but not immediately alarming.

That dose of test has personally put me around 3300.

All of that said, I would like to see another test and if anyone else is running test e and willing to get bloods, I will reimburse them with store credit. That goes for lightspan as well as far as reimbursement.

Im in the process of hopefully getting a mass spec lined up so the test will be the first thing I have done and that will provide more feedback as far as those numbers go.

TL

With that post you basically told me your test is dosed around half of what it should be. LS's post shows it around 1/3. Not sure I care which one of you is correct, either way it's bunk IMO.

 

[Voltrader]

About what I expected. Now @Ozzy619 we need to see your labs. I don't know how many trusted members are out there running Titan gear but I would trust yours ozzy.

 

[Titanlabs]

Well, I can't believe I am actually gonna say this, but here goes.

First, let me preface by saying that Lightspan has my trust, and I fully trust his blood work reporting. He and I have been cool almost since the day he showed up, through quite a few PM's.

Also, it is documented through at least a couple of posts early on in this thread that I have never trusted this source. I even predicted their demise "before the snow flies in the midwest again" within the last week.

That said, let's not forget what we as a community stand for. We draw our strength in numbers, and we do not allow any one individual member to make or break a source.

It is EXTREMELY VITAL that some more members who have been running Titan's gear step forward and get bloods done! EX -TREME-LY VI-TAL!

We must have more proof than just one member with bad bloods. That will not deter many members from still ordering.

Also, it will be much easier for Titan to refute these claims with only one set of bloods.

We must be more fair to the source in question, and more thorough, than to declare them scammer due to one members bloods. That's just not the Meso way - it does not fit with how we operate here.

I don't like Titan, i dont trust Titan, and I never have. Johnny and I called this guy into question early on. But we as a community cannot allow other forums to call our integrity into question due to unfair judgment based on one persons bloods. We hold our community to a higher standard than that.

And bickel beat me to it.

At this point I agree that there should be a few more bloods done because that number has not been the norm for me or personal friends that have had blood work done.

So, I think it definitely needs some more looking into. Like I said, I am trying to line up some mass spec which will give a final number on purity.

TL

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Thanks for the bloods lightspan. That level is definitely lower than I would like to see and lower than my bloods have turned back at.

However, everyone is different. Ive seen a few bloods around that number for the same amount and if you were taking an AI or not will influence that number.

If you are wanting to see max serum levels, test e peaks at around 48 hours so it would have already started to decline. A level of around 2500 would be reasonable to expect at peak serum levels so given personal factors, AI, and that they were taken after 48 hours, these are definitely low but not immediately alarming.

That dose of test has personally put me around 3300.

All of that said, I would like to see another test and if anyone else is running test e and willing to get bloods, I will reimburse them with store credit. That goes for lightspan as well as far as reimbursement.

Im in the process of hopefully getting a mass spec lined up so the test will be the first thing I have done and that will provide more feedback as far as those numbers go.

TL

And how exactly would an AI impact TT on a blood test while you're on cycle?!

Just more proof this jackass doesn't have a clue what he's talking about or doing..

 

[lightspan]

Well, I can't believe I am actually gonna say this, but here goes.

First, let me preface by saying that Lightspan has my trust, and I fully trust his blood work reporting. He and I have been cool almost since the day he showed up, through quite a few PM's.

Also, it is documented through at least a couple of posts early on in this thread that I have never trusted this source. I even predicted their demise "before the snow flies in the midwest again" within the last week.

That said, let's not forget what we as a community stand for. We draw our strength in numbers, and we do not allow any one individual member to make or break a source.

It is EXTREMELY VITAL that some more members who have been running Titan's gear step forward and get bloods done! EX -TREME-LY VI-TAL!

We must have more proof than just one member with bad bloods. That will not deter many members from still ordering.

Also, it will be much easier for Titan to refute these claims with only one set of bloods.

We must be more fair to the source in question, and more thorough, than to declare them scammer due to one members bloods. That's just not the Meso way - it does not fit with how we operate here.

I don't like Titan, i dont trust Titan, and I never have. Johnny and I called this guy into question early on. But we as a community cannot allow other forums to call our integrity into question due to unfair judgment based on one persons bloods. We hold our community to a higher standard than that.

this is the post i wanted to write, but for being angry, and now slightly fucked up on xanax. as i said either here or in my log, i don't think titan intentionally underdosed his gear. someone else getting blood work would help matters greatly, lynching titan before we have more data points is unreasonable, and as bickel so eloquently put it, Meso needs to be the paradigm of integrity by being thorough and evenhanded with sources before getting out the pitchforks. you can sharpen them, just no stabbing yet.

 

[fyron]

For what its worth, I haven't ordered from titan but I did get blood work done on astro's test e a few months ago and posted it in his thread. Ill post it here too but I was running the same dose of Test E and my bloods came back at 2k...these dont look overly worrisome to me.

The guys saying that serum should be at 5-6k are very very mistaken. 200mg watson test cyp will put you at 1000-1300 normally

Edit: My bloods were drawn three days after my 8th pin, but I did frontload the first week at 1000mg so I would consider mine roughly equivalent to what lightspan got when you take the front load into account.

I personally think I drew the bloods to long after my last pin as compared to when serum reaches peak but people told me in Astro's thread that they may be moderately low but not of immediate concern.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

this is the post i wanted to write, but for being angry, and now slightly fucked up on xanax. as i said either here or in my log, i don't think titan intentionally underdosed his gear. someone else getting blood work would help matters greatly, lynching titan before we have more data points is unreasonable, and as bickel so eloquently put it, Meso needs to be the paradigm of integrity by being thorough and evenhanded with sources before getting out the pitchforks. you can sharpen them, just no stabbing yet.

This is like men's slow pitch softball, you only get 2 strikes and between this and the mast e problem last week it's a wrap..

 

[bigpoppachump]

Impressive show of character Lightspan. Once I saw your bloods I figured you would rally the posse but you showed restraint. I'd like to see another lab result as well before we stone him to death. I'd also like to hear that people didnt line up to get scammed either while it was sorted out.....

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

For what its worth, I haven't ordered from titan but I did get blood work done on astro's test e a few months ago and posted it in his thread. Ill post it here too but I was running the same dose of Test E and my bloods came back at 2k...these dont look overly worrisome to me.

The guys saying that serum should be at 5-6k are very very mistaken. 200mg watson test cyp will put you at 1000-1300 normally

Yea, @Michael Scally MD is wrong as well as my anecdotal experience..

I remember your clown ass..

 

[bigpoppachump]

For what its worth, I haven't ordered from titan but I did get blood work done on astro's test e a few months ago and posted it in his thread. Ill post it here too but I was running the same dose of Test E and my bloods came back at 2k...these dont look overly worrisome to me.

The guys saying that serum should be at 5-6k are very very mistaken. 200mg watson test cyp will put you at 1000-1300 normally

Im no expert in this subject but if 200mg of pharm per week puts you at 1k to 1300 shouldn't even slightly underdosed gear put us at around the high 2000's at 600mg per week?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Impressive show of character Lightspan. Once I saw your bloods I figured you would rally the posse but you showed restraint. I'd like to see another lab result as well before we stone him to death. I'd also like to hear that people didnt line up to get scammed either while it was sorted out.....

You know, I hope no one orders from this dumb ass either at this point!!

I'm guessing I'm part of this posse of which you speak.. I'll say this.. These were the type of source protecting posts made by people right before MFL finally unraveled..

 

[flenser]

Im no expert in this subject but if 200mg of pharm per week puts you at 1k to 1300 shouldn't even slightly underdosed gear put us at around the high 2000's at 600mg per week?

200mg pharm test per week puts me at 1900. 500mg puts me in the high 4000's. We're all different, but not THAT different. Lightspan's TT should have been over 5000.

 

[bigpoppachump]

I'm sure not trying to protect him as I have no dog in this fight but of course I'd like to see another lab result. I damn sure wont be ordering from him anytime soon lol

 

[Colt44]

You know, I hope no one orders from this dumb ass either at this point!!

I'm guessing I'm part of this posse of which you speak.. I'll say this.. These were the type of source protecting posts made by people right before MFL finally unraveled..

You mean the saintlike lab that's coming to rescue the poor MLG customers on ASF? [emoji19]

 

[Ozzy619]

About what I expected. Now @Ozzy619 we need to see your labs. I don't know how many trusted members are out there running Titan gear but I would trust yours ozzy.

Thanks Volt, Ill make an appointment and get them done. Its the least I can do for the community

 

[Colt44]

Waiting for the, "that can't be right" or "that's normal for 600mg" comments.

Nailed it....

Thanks for the bloods lightspan. That level is definitely lower than I would like to see and lower than my bloods have turned back at.

However, everyone is different. Ive seen a few bloods around that number for the same amount and if you were taking an AI or not will influence that number.

If you are wanting to see max serum levels, test e peaks at around 48 hours so it would have already started to decline. A level of around 2500 would be reasonable to expect at peak serum levels so given personal factors, AI, and that they were taken after 48 hours, these are definitely low but not immediately alarming.

That dose of test has personally put me around 3300.

All of that said, I would like to see another test and if anyone else is running test e and willing to get bloods, I will reimburse them with store credit. That goes for lightspan as well as far as reimbursement.

Im in the process of hopefully getting a mass spec lined up so the test will be the first thing I have done and that will provide more feedback as far as those numbers go.

TL

 

[big boi]

IMO the new guys need take a backseat n let the vets handle this. Arguing with the respected gets u no respect n I don't give a fuck if u been n the game forever here at meso the vets handle these situations.