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[ShredMN]

Drawing only from personal experience is guessing man. You’re handing out drug advice. Everyone can do as they wish though...

I understand completely. I’ve been prescribed pramipexole from doctors in the past so I’m personally comfortable using it, but to each their own.

 

[ShredMN]

Is this racist? Do we have a resident expert that can help out?

Liberals would claim I’m blackfacing because mt-2 can make me look like an aboriginal!

 

[really small guy]

People will claim that if you keep your estrogen in check prolactin will stay within normal ranges, but I call absolute bullshit on that from years of experience with tren. If I don’t use a dopamine agonist and only an AI, my nipples will hurt.

I have read alot of stuff when I started looking into it that backs up exactly what you are saying so... Gonna start looking into the prami or caber

 

[really small guy]

Drawing only from personal experience is guessing man. You’re handing out drug advice. Everyone can do as they wish though...

I get what u are saying. I'll get bloods. But I was asking here after doing alot of reading yesterday. I found many entries across different boards that back up what he is saying.. but I'll try the but b6 immediately.. and I'll get blood done and start looking into the other options, that's all. Too bad those things aren't TGI brand. Lol.

 

[iceman440]

I’m in the same boat man, zits on back and middle of chest. Then also my right shoulder only. I don’t remember it being an issue last summer so maybe @ShredMN is right and the tanning helps to dry it out. I’m taking 40 mg of accutane a day and my lips are still always dry so I’m assuming the accutane is still doing its thing.

Yeah it just sucks because I love tren and what it does as small dosages

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I get what u are saying. I'll get bloods. But I was asking here after doing alot of reading yesterday. I found many entries across different boards that back up what he is saying.. but I'll try the but b6 immediately.. and I'll get blood done and start looking into the other options, that's all. Too bad those things aren't TGI brand. Lol.

My issue with just using boards and not fully diving into any actual studies is forums, even this one, turn into echo chambers. And someone’s conclusion drawn from personal experience only, over time, turns into pseudo-fact. I’m not saying @ShredMN is a liar. Just that “do this it worked for me” is a dangerous game. It’s easy to assume the cause from the effect without understanding the mechanism in the middle that’s driving it.

 

[iceman440]

Liberals would claim I’m blackfacing because mt-2 can make me look like an aboriginal!

So you are recommending caber/prami anytime someone runs tren?

 

[Brawny]

My issue with just using boards and not fully diving into any actual studies is forums, even this one, turn into echo chambers. And someone’s conclusion drawn from personal experience only, over time, turns into pseudo-fact. I’m not saying @ShredMN is a liar. Just that “do this it worked for me” is a dangerous game. It’s easy to assume the cause from the effect without understanding the mechanism in the middle that’s driving it.

I wouldn’t take an A.I. or Prolactin agonist without bloodwork. You have no idea where your baseline is.

This is the same thing as the “feelz reports”

 

[MaskedLiberty]

My issue with just using boards and not fully diving into any actual studies is forums, even this one, turn into echo chambers. And someone’s conclusion drawn from personal experience only, over time, turns into pseudo-fact. I’m not saying @ShredMN is a liar. Just that “do this it worked for me” is a dangerous game. It’s easy to assume the cause from the effect without understanding the mechanism in the middle that’s driving it.

I tried to reciprocate this last night with the orals talk. All of this shit is assimilated differently per individual.

 

[ShredMN]

My issue with just using boards and not fully diving into any actual studies is forums, even this one, turn into echo chambers. And someone’s conclusion drawn from personal experience only, over time, turns into pseudo-fact. I’m not saying @ShredMN is a liar. Just that “do this it worked for me” is a dangerous game. It’s easy to assume the cause from the effect without understanding the mechanism in the middle that’s driving it.

No I hear you brother! I’m not telling anyone to take my experience as absolute gospel. Only sharing what I’ve experienced throughout the years. But in the flip side, no one has an issue recommending AI or SERM usage, even though they take their toll on your health when used over long periods.

 

[ShredMN]

So you are recommending caber/prami anytime someone runs tren?

If your nipples start to hurt despite AI and/or SERM usages, I’d definitely recommend at least trying it for a short period, but again - that’s only my opinion and not medical advice.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

No I hear you brother! I’m not telling anyone to take my experience as absolute gospel. Only sharing what I’ve experienced throughout the years. But in the flip side, no one has an issue recommending AI or SERM usage, even though they take their toll on your health when used over long periods.

Most of the guys worth listening to here would tell you to get bloodwork to confirm e2 range before adding more. I know i call that shit out every time i see it..”up the adex to x mg” or “add aromasin.” No. Partner any additional drug use with bloodwork whenever possible. I’m not telling guys to get tits, but asking for an appropriate dose of anti-e from just a drug stack is dumb AF.

 

[ShredMN]

Most of the guys worth listening to here would tell you to get bloodwork to confirm e2 range before adding gear. I know i call that shit out every time i see it..”up the adex to x mg” or “add aromasin.” No. Partner any additional drug use with bloodwork.

Well as you know you’re the exception and not the norm. Waiting for bloodwork can be a double edged sword when you’re flirting with gyno though.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Well as you know you’re the exception and not the norm. Waiting for bloodwork can be a double edged sword when you’re flirting with gyno though.

Maybe Im just lucky, but never saw 7 days of waiting turn into noticeable gyno. Maybe this is all because guys just don’t pay attention to themselves over time. Duno.

PSA: if you think you’ve got a mounting gyno issue, stop touching the MF. Odds are you’re creating an issue that isn’t there or making it worse

 

[Brawny]

Most of the guys worth listening to here would tell you to get bloodwork to confirm e2 range before adding gear. I know i call that shit out every time i see it..”up the adex to x mg” or “add aromasin.” No. Partner any additional drug use with bloodwork whenever possible. I’m not telling guys to get tits, but asking for an appropriate dose of anti-e from just a drug stack is dumb AF.

Before I started getting bloodwork, I went by the .5mg Adex EOD on Test/Deca and crashed the hell out of my e2. I do .25mg every 5 days on 500mg test and that’s perfect for me.

I think everyone needs to do bloodwork every cycle

 

[MaskedLiberty]

Well as you know you’re the exception and not the norm. Waiting for bloodwork can be a double edged sword when you’re flirting with gyno though.

All my blood work has come back within 24 hours of draw. I could go today if I wanted to and so could almost anyone else.

privatemdlabs, labcorp, email = results.

 

[Urgentfury12]

Post DNP glycogen supercompensation for the goddamn win.

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What in the fuck are you wearing

 

[ShredMN]

Maybe Im just lucky, but never saw 7 days of waiting turn into noticeable gyno. Maybe this is all because guys just don’t pay attention to themselves over time. Duno.

PSA: if you think you’ve got a mounting gyno issue, stop touching the MF. Odds are you’re creating an issue that isn’t there or making it worse

Haha I hear you on that. People love touching their nipples every 10 minutes when issues start to surface and it only makes things worse.

 

[MaskedLiberty]

Before I started getting bloodwork, I went by the .5mg Adex EOD on Test/Deca and crashed the hell out of my e2. I do .25mg every 5 days on 500mg test and that’s perfect for me.

I think everyone needs to do bloodwork every cycle

I run zero AI never had an issue even on tren. Well a few mental issues on Tren E but whatever.

 

[ShredMN]

What in the fuck are you wearing

My favorite tank top from strong liftwear (their Boulder Tank line) and some Under Armour pants I rolled up to show off my sick calves!

I draw the line at short shorts and stringers (upper body man thongs).