Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

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I can't believe what I am reading from you.

You've essentially argued that customers should support @TitaniumGear (TGI)'s physical violence against a former member who threatened to report him to the police because... WAIT FOR IT...

The physical violence would be in the interest of protecting his customers?!

The fact that he was vulnerable to such threats in the first place really says all you need to know about his concern for his customers.

I said the customers info was possibly a byproduct of it, not the sole reason that TGI would have made that move. TGI made that move I’d guess because his freedom and livelihood was threatened.

I nor anyone else “defending” the source has made claim he’s vulnerable, but it’s a possibility. And any increased looking into the source by LE is obviously unwanted.

The point is joe blow behind a keyboard threatens a drug dealer and then gives drug dealer their personal info? Then every keyboard warrior gets up in arms when the drug dealer takes action. Again, you don’t threaten anyone without being prepared for them to snap back.

You can think your opsec is airtight, but is that a risk you’re willing to take? Laugh it off and let the guy make up and epic story to LE. Morefyah may not have had anything concrete or personally identifying but still, more attention is still bad.

You and @puckhog just don't get it. One of the guiding principles for MESO is to give members a platform where they feel free to air their grievances and criticisms of sources. MESO never censors or bans anyone for anything they say about sources.

This policy does not confer credibility to the member allegations. It merely gives members a platform to share and provide evidence to substantiate their allegations. The rest is up to them.

The use of secondary usernames has always been encouraged as a mechanism to protect members from retaliation from the source and/or other who wish to protect the source.

If this is still not clear, review the following post in which I explain the very specific and limited circumstances in which @Ej911 was permitted to use a secondary account:



Here is another post explaining why you are not permitted to create a secondary account merely to attack your critics or anyone else with which you disagree:



There is a huge distinction between creating a secondary account to air grievances against a source and creating a secondary account merely to attack other members and/or self-promote.

If you still don't see it, let me know and I will elaborate even further.

I said it in another post, I completely agree members should be allowed to make another account to air grievances, but what as ej911 actually provided? He’s provided no prof of anything, hell I can’t even remember a post where he laid out the actual accusation(s) its all been inflammatory comments along he lines of “I’ve got dirty” “you’re a shady person” etc. then a bunch of name called and attacking members, again, without a single laid out accusation I remember.

So it would seem that ej911 didn’t create an account to air grievance, they created another account to simply attack members, which is against the rules. Now if en911 were to actually say what these members have done and provide the proof he claims he has then by all means, keep the account and chug along.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The irony..

Sworder! You crazy cunt, you. How the hell are ya? I saw you sent me and Brutus a group DM a few weeks ago. I ignored it. Brutus did too. I figured you just wanted to ask how you got semen in your rectum again and I didn't care to get into that discussion.

 

[Sworder]

Sworder! You crazy cunt, you. How the hell are ya? I saw you sent me and Brutus a group DM a few weeks ago. I ignored it. Brutus did too. I figured you just wanted to ask how you got semen in your rectum again and I didn't care to get into that discussion.

Been better! I kinda miss you guys, nobody wants to argue with me here. It's dead.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

. And any increased looking into the source by LE is obviously unwanted.

LE isn't tgi's biggest issue anymore. In fact, I'd say that's the least of his concerns.

You can think your opsec is airtight, but is that a risk you’re willing to take?

The real question is how airtight is tgi's opsec. I guess we'll find out...

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Been better! I kinda miss you guys, nobody wants to argue with me here. It's dead.

It got lame af when Millard made rape threats against the rules. Those were some of the best posts this forum has ever seen.

 

[BIG74]

Oh, they get it alright. They just don't like it. They're dickriders. They want tgi protected. They should stay on discord and enjoy it while it lasts. I haven't decided yet if I'll have it taken down but I'm seriously thinking about coming out of retirement and fucking shit up again. I dispise dickriders even more than i do mods. Maybe it's time...

I'm confused, you don't like mods, but yet you are insinuating you're gonna moderate on a site that literally has nothing to do with you.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I'm confused, you don't like mods, but yet you are insinuating you're gonna moderate on a site that literally has nothing to do with you.

No I didn't. I said I might blow tgi's discord channel tf up just for the hell of it. Tgi and his dickriders aren't untouchable over there. I may or may not let them continue. I haven't decided yet.

So you can take my message back to tgi. And tell him the next dickrider he sends over here better not have dried jizz in the corners of his mouth. No one wants to see that shit, dude.

 

[Sworder]

It got lame af when Millard made rape threats against the rules. Those were some of the best posts this forum has ever seen.

Haha I agree!

 

[ickyrica]

I nor anyone else “defending” the source has made claim he’s vulnerable, but it’s a possibility

it's not a possibility. He's 100% available. That point has been beaten to a bloody pulp. It's just a matter of time until it's over.

The point is joe blow behind a keyboard threatens a drug dealer and then gives drug dealer their personal info?

that's not how it happened. Keep your head out of your ass. It's a new day, stick to facts and accurate descriptions of what really happened. He didn't threaten TGI and then send his personal info. Tgi specifically sent his customers info out to bid. Fucking dumm dumm.

 

[Uglyrichie]

Sorry I'm just a spectator in this drama. Rats are pussies And are the scum of the earth. But I haven't heard this mentioned once this dude put it out there that he wanted that guy beat down. Don't you think the rat dude went and sang like a bird. Once he heard that

 

[ickyrica]

Sorry I'm just a spectator in this drama. Rats are pussies And are the scum of the earth. But I haven't heard this mentioned once this dude put it out there that he wanted that guy beat down. Don't you think the rat dude went and sang like a bird. Once he heard that

Honestly, what can he rat out? I bought steroids from an online drug dealer? I talked shit to someone that is completely secured through encryption and whatever else a source uses to shroud themselves and was personally threatened?

If TGI was a good, community interest oriented source this would never have been an issue.

I'm seriously worried about people's critical thinking skills. I'm not trying to be rude, I just really want to drive home the fact that it doesn't matter if opsec is in place. And it wasn't.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Tgi specifically sent his customers info out to bid. Fucking dumm dumm.

Totally normal, huh?

People support this because everyone thinks that MoreFyah was a rat despite zero proof that he actually spoke to LE.

He was a pain in the ass at times and loved to argue but he wasn’t a rat. He was part of the community here, contributed a lot, called shit out and was abrasive. But not a rat. And as has been pointed out a bunch of times, this is internet sales, not person to person so good OPSEC provides protection.

Anyone here, anyone seeing any of this posts on the GOOGLE can alert LE but how are they going to find the UGL with an email address or even a return address label. So to call MoreFyah’s “threats” substantial enough to justify bids for a “hit” is gross over exaggeration.

 

[ickyrica]

Totally normal, huh?

People support this because everyone thinks that MoreFyah was a rat despite zero proof that he actually spoke to LE.

He was a pain in the ass at times and loved to argue but he wasn’t a rat. He was part of the community here, contributed a lot, called shit out and was abrasive. But not a rat. And as has been pointed out a bunch of times, this is internet sales, not person to person so good OPSEC provides protection.

Anyone here, anyone seeing any of this posts on the GOOGLE can alert LE but how are they going to find the UGL with an email address or even a return address label. So to call MoreFyah’s “threats” substantial enough to justify bids for a “hit” is gross over exaggeration.

Really paints a picture, doesn't it? Unhinged.

If you strip away the emotional attachment to tgi, everything that's been posted in response to this lovely debacle is worthless. It's kinda funny how it's working out. If you look back at what the old guard posted when they came in here and rolled heads, it pretty much all came true.

Gotta love it when vets that have seen it all call out what's goin to happen, and then it does.

MMGA

Make Meso Great Again 2020

 

[movingiron88]

Really paints a picture, doesn't it? Unhinged.

If you strip away the emotional attachment to tgi, everything that's been posted in response to this lovely debacle is worthless. It's kinda funny how it's working out. If you look back at what the old guard posted when they came in here and rolled heads, it pretty much all came true.

Gotta love it when vets that have seen it all call out what's goin to happen, and then it does.

MMGA

Make Meso Great Again 2020

We need to drain the swamp. We know who they are. I'll start with @Mac11wildcat for being a little cunt.

 

[ickyrica]

We need to drain the swamp. We know who they are. I'll start with @Mac11wildcat for being a little cunt.

Gotta be honest here. Who tgi is irl is pretty much sorted out imo.

Crazy how fast this shit can get real.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

We need to drain the swamp. We know who they are. I'll start with @Mac11wildcat for being a little cunt.

Drain the swamp bro. Bring it. Whatcha got on me?

Oh, nothing? Just feelings? Cool.

@BigBaldBeardGuy uh wut? So there’s a distinction between threatening to go to LE and doing it? No. You make those threats, you’ve already started down the path.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Gotta be honest here. Who tgi is irl is pretty much sorted out imo.

Crazy how fast this shit can get real.

Explain. Because if this means what I think you’re getting at you’re WAY off base.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Drain the swamp bro. Bring it. Whatcha got on me?

Oh, nothing? Cool.

@BigBaldBeardGuy uh wut? So there’s a distinction between threatening to go to LE and doing it? No. You make those threats, you’ve already started down the path.

Ok. Hypothetical - Think about how you would be able to report an Internet UGL to LE. Like I said, it’s not like you’re reporting the guy that hangs at the corner of 5th and Main.

Did WADA come to your front door and ask for that piss test yet? Did you take those threats serious. C’mon.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Ok. Hypothetical - Think about how you would be able to report an Internet UGL to LE. Like I said, it’s not like you’re reporting the guy that hangs at the corner of 5th and Main.

Did WADA come to your front door and ask for that piss test yet? Did you take those threats serious. C’mon.

Lol. WADA. That was a joke.

Let’s not confuse WADA with law enforcement. Don’t be dense.

there is NO telling who you’re dealing with here. MF could’ve been a shithead idiot (he is) or have the means to actually get to work on TGIs identity, location, etc.

It’s ridiculous anybody is standing behind MF here. TGI was 100% wrong to go off the deep end with the “bounty.” I’ve never argued that it was right nor acceptable. You don’t need to try and match the perceived foolishness by arguing that floating las enforcement threats is acceptable.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Lol. WADA. That was a joke.

Let’s not confuse WADA with law enforcement. Don’t be dense.

Didn’t he also “threaten” to go to the IRS too. Did you take those “threats” serious?