Tren Cycle, first timer here... whoop whoop!!

Hey J,

I felt like you last week and decided against cracking my last vial. When your stuck at least switch up the compounds but in your case, your running such a spread I would just drop it and save it for later.

I didn't notice a drop in energy or emotion after dropping tren. In fact I felt my demeanor return to normal up until the point I used that tren base last Sunday!

I wouldn't waste the jug on a taper. I was at 75mg ed and it wasn't a huge deal.

This^^ is good news.. :)
 
Also with regard to the thyroid comment.

You can reverse depletion of thyroid by GH or peps by using:

Selenium
Iodine
Tyrosine
P5P (B6)

This combo will keep the thyroid nice and healthy without exogenous thyroid hormones.
 
Hey man, wanted to say you may want to taper your tren out. Just a thought, a friend told me it's brutal lethargy when you drop from 50+ mg to none in one day. They said they had a better time if they took a whole week to taper and then bumped test up for a week afterwards.

Tapering tren is probably smart. I pinned my last tren ace for this cycle on Monday, and actually pinned a little more than normal 50mg just to kill the rest of the vial. Yesterday and today I've had zero energy and felt like shit, which is probably due to tren being cut cold turkey.
 
its funny, i dislike long esters for their forced taper, however i now prefer to taper up and down with short esters.

i will taper off the tren, then a few weeks later taper off test, and lastly taper off mast before PCT. (actually i will start pct with some mast still running for the first week or so, many will disagree here i'm sure, but i believe DHT has a place in the beginning of PCT. Strong serms like torem and clomid can partially overcome their mild suppression, so you never go super low on androgens)

i have never run a cycle without tapering a DHT compound into PCT

real DHT not mast would be much more ideal here, which is why i'm advocating for biologic to carry it. they said they would if people show interest... i just have to figure out a way to get you guys to want it! lol
 
I wish I read this before I stopped my tren. I was taking 400mg of tren with 1000 of test e and now I am really tried during the day. This is 5 days off tren. Sometimes it is so bad I will actually fall asleep for a hour or so if I am watching tv or just sitting around not being active.
 
You bastards.. You guys have me going back and forth on this.. I SHOULD have mast p tomorrow and I'll be pinning that shit ASAP, maybe that'll help..

Did last tren shot this morning.. If it's bad I'll just crack another vial. Upped test p to 75mg yesterday and today, will continue that high for at least a week..
 
I wouldn't crack another vial of tren though, not really worth it because you'd have to use the whole thing since you aren't supposed to reuse a vial once it's been open for 2+ montjs
 
I didn't even think about it, I figured keeping test running another 3 weeks would be enough. But yesterday I felt like a little emo bitch and today I almost fell asleep while driving. So I guess now I know lol. Luckily the wife was horny so I got laid, which helped even out my temperament quite a bit. After all the horror stories about clomid and mood swings I'm really not looking forward to that in 2 weeks...
 
I didn't even think about it, I figured keeping test running another 3 weeks would be enough. But yesterday I felt like a little emo bitch and today I almost fell asleep while driving. So I guess now I know lol. Luckily the wife was horny so I got laid, which helped even out my temperament quite a bit. After all the horror stories about clomid and mood swings I'm really not looking forward to that in 2 weeks...

you only need 25 mg clomid ED. if it's dosed correctly at least. 25 mg puts LH to the top end, more than that doesn't help much at all and just causes sides. try taking the 25 mg the last 7 days of your cycle as well.

my PCT will look like this:

clomid:
25/25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5eod
torem:
60/60/60/40/40/20/20
aromasin as needed (probably start with 12.5 eod and gauge from there)

(also peptides, cialis, and some natty t boosters)
 
Thanks guys ^^..

I just got my Naps pack, tore that bitch open and banged 200mg mast p.. :drooling:

My protocol for the next week at least will be:
75mg- test p ED
75mg- mast p ED
50mg- NPP ED
50mg-winny ED
 
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