Tren Cycle, first timer here... whoop whoop!!

[johnnyBALLZ]

Yes, "Wholly Thread revival Bat Man!" I just did not want anyone doing a cycle pyramid like we did 20 years ago. Actually, I was one of the first guys to start using a front loading cycle.



So, where are the pics, page number? No Homo[)]

Page 34 I think..

 

[Pericles]

Well it's been a week since I dropped the tren ace and I still feel 100% the same so maybe guys only feel like shit if they come off everything at once? Or maybe I'm just special.. Still getting mild night sweats but nowhere near as intense as they were.

Today was my last shot of NPP, currently running:

75mg- test p ED (bio)
75mg- mast p ED (geneza)
50mg- winny ED (geneza)
4iu- GH ED (riptropin)
25-75mg- proviron ED (geneza)

Strength gains are still coming and have been steady this whole cycle but I'm still at 230lbs.. My next cycle is only going to be 6-7 weeks since I don't seem to gain anything after that.. Like I said I'm still getting stronger so I don't feel like I'm spinning my wheels, I like to think I'm also "solidifying my gains"..

That^ has always been the case for me. Drop down to 300 mgs of test/week for 2-3 weeks. During that time, I look even better than I did @ full cycle amount. I also agree that it solidify's gains.

 

[ChrisWarrenH]

I must be a freak of nature because I kept growing through the whole 12 weeks of tren ace... However I did bump up the dose every four weeks, and added in more food.

 

[ChrisWarrenH]

I went back and checked out your pics, and you look great bro. gj on this cycle

 

[Gunrunner]

So, where are the pics, page number? No Homo[)]

Hmmm, always wanting guys pics [)] [)] [)]8->

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

CHEST DAY!! Did 315lbsx10 on incline for the first time!! Strength gains are still coming man but I'm so sick of feeling lethargic!! [|)] I sat down at 8am for a few minutes and dozed off!! NOT COOL!! I really think Gunrunner was on to something with my T4 levels because of the GH, I have some of that shit from Great White Peptides on the way and I'm praying that does the trick... And hopefully fast...

Things are actually going pretty good with my mother-in-law.. She told my wife to be nicer to me and not be such a bitch!! Who the hell would've thought... Well unless this is all part of some crazy evil plan?!?!? [}] I still can't put anything past this woman but HOPEFULLY this type of behavior continues..

 

[Candyskull]

CHEST DAY!! Did 315lbsx10 on incline for the first time!! Strength gains are still coming man but I'm so sick of feeling lethargic!! [|)] I sat down at 8am for a few minutes and dozed off!! NOT COOL!! I really think Gunrunner was on to something with my T4 levels because of the GH, I have some of that shit from Great White Peptides on the way and I'm praying that does the trick... And hopefully fast...

Things are actually going pretty good with my mother-in-law.. She told my wife to be nicer to me and not be such a bitch!! Who the hell would've thought... Well unless this is all part of some crazy evil plan?!?!? [}] I still can't put anything past this woman but HOPEFULLY this type of behavior continues..

It's an evil plan! Take cover! Man the lifeboats! Baton down the hatches! [)]

 

[Gunrunner]

CHEST DAY!! Did 315lbsx10 on incline for the first time!! Strength gains are still coming man but I'm so sick of feeling lethargic!! I sat down at 8am for a few minutes and dozed off!! NOT COOL!! I really think Gunrunner was on to something with my T4 levels because of the GH, I have some of that shit from Great White Peptides on the way and I'm praying that does the trick... And hopefully fast...

Things are actually going pretty good with my mother-in-law.. She told my wife to be nicer to me and not be such a bitch!! Who the hell would've thought... Well unless this is all part of some crazy evil plan?!?!? [}] I still can't put anything past this woman but HOPEFULLY this type of behavior continues..

315X10 on incline Sreiously bro, that's beastly shit there:notworthy:

Don't doubt Gunrunner I use the GWP T4 and it is good. Go with 100mcg a day in the AM on an empty stomcah and drink lotsa water.

Not everyone is evil and plotting to get you. Try having faith in people and if they screw you over then fuck them. Let me tell you about mother in laws. They hate you like the devil until a certain point where they start to like you and then you can't do wrong. Or it's just an evil plot and your screwed[}]

 

[smiles]

CHEST DAY!! Did 315lbsx10 on incline for the first time!! Strength gains are still coming man but I'm so sick of feeling lethargic!! [|)] I sat down at 8am for a few minutes and dozed off!! NOT COOL!! I really think Gunrunner was on to something with my T4 levels because of the GH, I have some of that shit from Great White Peptides on the way and I'm praying that does the trick... And hopefully fast...

Things are actually going pretty good with my mother-in-law.. She told my wife to be nicer to me and not be such a bitch!! Who the hell would've thought... Well unless this is all part of some crazy evil plan?!?!? [}] I still can't put anything past this woman but HOPEFULLY this type of behavior continues..

Hell yeah bro, tarring it up!!!

 

[fit2beking]

In order to even post in this thread you either have to be beastly like JB and Gunns or shredded like a motherfucker like 1-4. Perc is pretty yoked too! Im bowing out until my next blast and I am either going to be beastly or shredded and then I can grace this thread. :notworthy:

Good work fellas!

 

[ChrisWarrenH]

CHEST DAY!! Did 315lbsx10 on incline for the first time!! Strength gains are still coming man but I'm so sick of feeling lethargic!! [|)] I sat down at 8am for a few minutes and dozed off!! NOT COOL!! I really think Gunrunner was on to something with my T4 levels because of the GH, I have some of that shit from Great White Peptides on the way and I'm praying that does the trick... And hopefully fast...

Things are actually going pretty good with my mother-in-law.. She told my wife to be nicer to me and not be such a bitch!! Who the hell would've thought... Well unless this is all part of some crazy evil plan?!?!? [}] I still can't put anything past this woman but HOPEFULLY this type of behavior continues..

oh god.... mother in laws...... Mine is israeli, hot headed as hell, and she never uses the right words for anything, so half the time I have no idea what she means....... lol This woman hates me....... And props on 315 for reps... that's pretty crazy for incline.

 

[Undertow333]

Hey JB,
can't remember if you used an anti- prolactin like primi or caber? I have used tren more than a few times but its been ten years ago and anti- prolactins weren't talked about much. I'm sensitive to decca dick and I'm lookin for some feedback about caber, etc. before I run my next prop, tren, mast cycle

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Hey JB,

can't remember if you used an anti- prolactin like primi or caber? I have used tren more than a few times but its been ten years ago and anti- prolactins weren't talked about much. I'm sensitive to decca dick and I'm lookin for some feedback about caber, etc. before I run my next prop, tren, mast cycle

I'm not a big believer that tren raises prolactin but I ran(and still running) prami at .5mg ED for the hell of it and it definitely makes for a REALLY powerful orgasm.

 

[Undertow333]

Sold! :wank: I have never ran any of them before and was just curious as to what the new school approach on this would be. Thanks

 

[azazul]

I'm not a big believer that tren raises prolactin but I ran(and still running) prami at .5mg ED for the hell of it and it definitely makes for a REALLY powerful orgasm.

Your saying tren does not raise prolactin levels? Or you are saying it doesn't affect you in that way.

btw thats alot to press incline damn

 

[Undertow333]

Your saying tren does not raise prolactin levels? Or you are saying it doesn't affect you in that way.

btw thats alot to press incline damn

That is a fuck ton to be inclining. I thought that I was strong. Oh well, looks like more red meat and heavy ass weights for me. Gotta keep up with the Joneses

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Your saying tren does not raise prolactin levels? Or you are saying it doesn't affect you in that way.

btw thats alot to press incline damn

There is no actual data that suggests that tren raises prolactin.. Through my own research and additional info from folks like Dr. Jim and CBS I've concluded it does not..

 

[azazul]

it is all over the internet that it does fuck with prolactin, wonder what or who started the theory then, bro-science I guess.

 

[Undertow333]

I have personally lactated on as little as 300mg of tren per week. Granted I was on serious ammounts of other drugs too. I guess everybody has different body chemistry but decca and tren both seem to wreck my sex life. I think this time I will order some caber or prami and take hcg on cycle; two things I have never done before. My jury is still out on the higher tren than test though.

 

[conquistador]

We're getting very close to closing the chapter on this lactation with Tren and Deca issue. It has scientific backing. There's a study, sorry I can't point you to it right now, where they found that after administration of tren and estradiol to cattles oxytocin levels skyrocketed. Prolactin is not enough to cause discharge of milk from the nipples, there's some kind of "synergy" between oxytocin and prolactin that's absolutely essential it appears...check wikipedia for lactation for the mean time. I'm guessing when your e2 levels are sky-high in your cycle and your running either tren or deca, you might be increasing your chances of lactation because of a mild uprise on those two hormones oxytocin AND prolactin...prolactin as a consequence of e2, maybe? but what causes oxytocin secretion, the fuck do i know? but, because i'm no endocrinologist I can't prove shit, I hope a real doctor steps in. oxytocin, remember the word.