Mfras
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I’ve only done acetate but my understanding is that E can be run higher because it actually has like 10% less hormone that actually gets released and used compared to identical concentration of A.I think the argument people are trying to make is about peak concentrations and side effects manifesting at the top of the peak. Shorter esters peak faster/higher.
(The "release rates" are relative, I understand they're different for everyone and are only there to illustrate the point).
10mg of Ace EOD (35mg weekly) results in a release rate of 8mg/day. According the to planner, if you can tolerate a release rate of 8mg/day without sides, you could run 30mg of Enth 2x weekly (60mg weekly). Once you account for the ester weight you'd have around 30mg of Tren with Ace and 42mg of Tren with Enth.
Of course this is all completely theoretical but I think this is the argument people make about running longer esters higher.
After finding I tolerate tren pretty well I grabbed a couple bottles of E and when (if) I use them the plan will be less pins and 10% more than I would have used with A, with the caveat that an edgy high blast would still be done with Acetate to enable rapid exit.
But let’s say I tolerate 400 tren A pretty well- my highest dose I’ve used. If I got to a lean place and wanted to polish and harden the look with a serious blast I’d use A and probably be in the 385/week range which is both slightly conservative and also a serious dose.
If I decide to use the Enanthate it would be in a stack, not necessarily as the primary driver, and probably be more like in the 2-300 range max out of respect for the compound’s unpredictability, and very likely more like in the 1-200 range for respectable benefits and minimal harm.
In a case of slightly more YOLO but still not invincible abuse let’s say 500 tren A was the dose. The equal dose of E would be around 550. It would be less pinning and the ester release would mean more smoothness and more of a ramp up and down to full saturation at the beginning and end of the cycle- not some crazy stacking effect where by week 4 you’re on 1500mg or something.
At least that’s my understanding and concept of dosing protocols, including my personal strategies for harm reduction. If you’re a stage BB by all means bang 900/week but I’m definitely not.
