Hey fellas, quick background of my steroid usage over the past 4 years. First cycle was 12 week. Second 6 months blast and cruise. Third 9 months blast and cruise. Fourth 8 months blast and cruise. About 3 months in between each one. Definitely not enough time to recover and yes I did full clomid/nolva pct every time. As of steroid usage, I used deca once, tren several times, masteron several times and anadrol. Never went super high on any dose. Basically the lowest dose you would take for any of those compounds.
I definitely was never gifted with the ability to recover easily! I never felt recovered before I went on again. Every time I went off, it got progressively worse. This last pct was pretty rough and still is. I’m almost 4 months off and I plan on being off forever. I feel pretty decent overall, only thing I suffer with is ed and no libido whatsoever. My dick is practically useless even with a double dose of viagra. At 25 years old, it’s an absolute nightmare. I’ve been waiting praying for some improvement but absolutely nothing. It’s extremely mentally taxing and I don’t know if I can continue this for much longer. Everyone says to wait and give it time but my morale is pretty low and it feels like things will never improve.
So I have Diphereline (triptorelin embonate) on the way and should have it within two weeks. I feel like there aren’t any good logs where there was real pharmaceutical grade triptorelin used.
As far as bloodwork, I have gotten three since my last pin. One was about 8 days after last pin, then I got one on second week of pct. Good thing to note here is that lh and fsh were elevated due to clomid and nolva and testosterone was 770. This means that my testicles are not permanently atrophied. About 2.5 weeks after I finished my pct protocol, my bloodwork came back with total test 342 and pretty low range fsh and lh. I could upload pictures if anyone wants to see the results. This last blood test was done January 2, 2018. It is now February 12, 2018 and I have felt no improvement. As a matter of fact, I feel worse than I did a month ago. It’s almost as if once all the pct drugs cleared, I had a crash. I was at least able to use viagra to reach erection and did have sex several times during pct. Now I am completely incapable of doing that.
I think it’s pretty safe to say my test and lh/fsh are lower end at the moment. I’m guessing probably under 300 total test. I will get bloodwork right before using 100mcg of pharm triptorelin. I will also add nolvadex 20mg every other day post injection. I will run the nolvadex for about 30 days. Then wait a few weeks and get blood work. I will document everything I feel during this time period. After months of being sexually shut down, I will be able to tell very clearly when if any improvement is made.
I also have a blood test scheduled for July. So that will also be posted here to see the true long term effects of triptorelin and nolvadex combo.
There’s so much scaremongering going around about this peptide that it’s making me nervous. I have contacted two guys on some of the forums that used the same diphereline I’m going to use and they both had success with it which has made me pretty confident that at the very least, I won’t destroy my hpta like everyone is so scared of. Triptorelin acetate is what you’ll find on research chem sites. This is the shortest acting ester and it’s what everyone says is the trip you need to use for our purposes. Pamoate is a longer acting version and embonate is the LONGEST ester.
When diphereline is used to treat prostate cancer, otherwise known as chemical castration, the dosing protocol for complete hpta shutdown is as follows:
3.75mg once a month
Or
11.25mg every three months
Or
22.5mg every 6 months
This is the source for that info:
Further Detailed Information on Treatment and Side Effects | PCFA
Clearly those doses are way higher than what we would take for a pct. Keep in mind, triptorelin can be very harmful for bone mass and cause a lot of health issues in that regard. It’s not necessarily a ‘healthy’ drug to take at those dosages. So I assume that in the medical field they have figured out that 3.75mg is the lowest dose, to successfully castrate and have minimal negative effect to the skeletal system. I would say that’s a safe assumption. I don’t think they would use higher dosages than necessary considering how detrimental it can be in long term. This also gives me confidence that at 100mcg, I should be pretty safe.
So that’s the run down. Please anybody that has any good valuable information or tips, chime in. Anybody who has used it, share your experiences. My goal is to provide everyone on the internet with a real life experience, fully documented and backed up with blood work experiment with legitimate triptorelin. Hopefully this will provide others some insight and it will help change the way we recover from steroid usage.
Thanks everyone! Stay tuned
I definitely was never gifted with the ability to recover easily! I never felt recovered before I went on again. Every time I went off, it got progressively worse. This last pct was pretty rough and still is. I’m almost 4 months off and I plan on being off forever. I feel pretty decent overall, only thing I suffer with is ed and no libido whatsoever. My dick is practically useless even with a double dose of viagra. At 25 years old, it’s an absolute nightmare. I’ve been waiting praying for some improvement but absolutely nothing. It’s extremely mentally taxing and I don’t know if I can continue this for much longer. Everyone says to wait and give it time but my morale is pretty low and it feels like things will never improve.
So I have Diphereline (triptorelin embonate) on the way and should have it within two weeks. I feel like there aren’t any good logs where there was real pharmaceutical grade triptorelin used.
As far as bloodwork, I have gotten three since my last pin. One was about 8 days after last pin, then I got one on second week of pct. Good thing to note here is that lh and fsh were elevated due to clomid and nolva and testosterone was 770. This means that my testicles are not permanently atrophied. About 2.5 weeks after I finished my pct protocol, my bloodwork came back with total test 342 and pretty low range fsh and lh. I could upload pictures if anyone wants to see the results. This last blood test was done January 2, 2018. It is now February 12, 2018 and I have felt no improvement. As a matter of fact, I feel worse than I did a month ago. It’s almost as if once all the pct drugs cleared, I had a crash. I was at least able to use viagra to reach erection and did have sex several times during pct. Now I am completely incapable of doing that.
I think it’s pretty safe to say my test and lh/fsh are lower end at the moment. I’m guessing probably under 300 total test. I will get bloodwork right before using 100mcg of pharm triptorelin. I will also add nolvadex 20mg every other day post injection. I will run the nolvadex for about 30 days. Then wait a few weeks and get blood work. I will document everything I feel during this time period. After months of being sexually shut down, I will be able to tell very clearly when if any improvement is made.
I also have a blood test scheduled for July. So that will also be posted here to see the true long term effects of triptorelin and nolvadex combo.
There’s so much scaremongering going around about this peptide that it’s making me nervous. I have contacted two guys on some of the forums that used the same diphereline I’m going to use and they both had success with it which has made me pretty confident that at the very least, I won’t destroy my hpta like everyone is so scared of. Triptorelin acetate is what you’ll find on research chem sites. This is the shortest acting ester and it’s what everyone says is the trip you need to use for our purposes. Pamoate is a longer acting version and embonate is the LONGEST ester.
When diphereline is used to treat prostate cancer, otherwise known as chemical castration, the dosing protocol for complete hpta shutdown is as follows:
3.75mg once a month
Or
11.25mg every three months
Or
22.5mg every 6 months
This is the source for that info:
Further Detailed Information on Treatment and Side Effects | PCFA
Clearly those doses are way higher than what we would take for a pct. Keep in mind, triptorelin can be very harmful for bone mass and cause a lot of health issues in that regard. It’s not necessarily a ‘healthy’ drug to take at those dosages. So I assume that in the medical field they have figured out that 3.75mg is the lowest dose, to successfully castrate and have minimal negative effect to the skeletal system. I would say that’s a safe assumption. I don’t think they would use higher dosages than necessary considering how detrimental it can be in long term. This also gives me confidence that at 100mcg, I should be pretty safe.
So that’s the run down. Please anybody that has any good valuable information or tips, chime in. Anybody who has used it, share your experiences. My goal is to provide everyone on the internet with a real life experience, fully documented and backed up with blood work experiment with legitimate triptorelin. Hopefully this will provide others some insight and it will help change the way we recover from steroid usage.
Thanks everyone! Stay tuned