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Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed—in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical—and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self-satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.

If we want to know how to get the better of stupidity, we must seek to understand its nature. This much is certain, that it is in essence not an intellectual defect but a human one. There are human beings who are of remarkably agile intellect yet stupid, and others who are intellectually quite dull yet anything but stupid. We discover this to our surprise in particular situations. The impression one gains is not so much that stupidity is a congenital defect but that, under certain circumstances, people are made stupid or that they allow this to happen to them. We note further that people who have isolated themselves from others or who live in solitude manifest this defect less frequently than individuals or groups of people inclined or condemned to sociability. And so it would seem that stupidity is perhaps less a psychological than a sociological problem. It is a particular fonn of the impact of historical circumstances on human beings, a psychological concomitant of certain external conditions.

UPON CLOSER OBSERVATION, IT BECOMES APPARENT THAT EVERY STRONG UPSURGE OF POWER IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE, BE IT OF A POLITICAL OR A RELIGIOUS NATURE, INFECTS A LARGE PART OF HUMANKIND WITH STUPIDITY. IT WOULD EVEN SEEM THAT THIS IS VIRTUALLY A SOCIOLOGICAL-PSYCHOLOGICAL LAW. THE POWER OF THE ONE NEEDS THE STUPIDITY OF THE OTHER.

The process at work here is not that particular human capacities, for instance, the intellect, suddenly atrophy or fail. Instead, it seems that under the overwhelming impact of rising power, humans are deprived of their inner independence and, more or less consciously, give up establishing an autonomous position toward the emerging circumstances. The fact that the stupid person is often stubborn must not blind us to the fact that he is not independent.

In conversation with him, ONE VIRTUALLY FEELS THAT ONE IS DEALING NOT AT ALL WITH HIM AS A PERSON, BUT WITH SLOGANS, CATCHWORDS, AND THE LIKE THAT HAVE TAKEN POSSESSION OF HIM. HE IS UNDER A SPELL, BLINDED, MISUSED, AND ABUSED IN HIS VERY BEING. HAVING THUS BECOME A MINDLESS TOOL, THE STUPID PERSON WILL ALSO BE CAPABLE OF ANY EVIL AND AT THE SAME TIME INCAPABLE OF SEEING THAT IT IS EVIL. THIS IS WHERE THE DANGER OF DIABOLICAL MISUSE LURKS, FOR IT IS THIS THAT CAN ONCE AND FOR ALL DESTROY HUMAN BEINGS.

Yet at this very point it becomes quite clear that only an act of liberation, not instruction, can overcome stupidity. Here we must come to terms with the fact that in most cases a genuine internal liberation becomes possible only when external liberation has preceded it. Until then we must abandon all attempts to convince the stupid person. This state of affairs explains why in such circumstances our attempts to know what “the people” really think are in vain and why, under these circumstances, this question is so irrelevant for the person who is thinking and acting responsibly. The word of the Bible that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom declares that the internal liberation of human beings to live the responsible life before God is the only genuine way to overcome stupidity.

But these thoughts about stupidity also offer consolation in that they utterly forbid us to consider the majority of people to be stupid in every circumstance. It really will depend on whether those in power expect more from peoples’ stupidity than from their inner independence and wisdom.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers from Prison (Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2015), 9-11.
 
ronin17 said:
He is the very definition of bought and paid for. He is accountable to his shareholders, donors, lobbyists.
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Bought and paid for? You mean like Hillarys entire campaign? Do you know how much of her own $ she put up during the campaign? Zero. None. What you just said applies to every politician running for office ever. Oh, except for Trump who paid over $100 million of his own money. He backed himself and therefore owes no one "favors". Can't say that about HRC.

His support came from the people who've felt slighted by the same government supposedly working FOR them. He's already got the richest man in Japan investing 50 billion into our economy and providing 50,000 jobs.

The fact is, every candidate running for office has a campaign paid for by donors. That's how politics works @ronin17 . Only the rich can take office here. Been that way for a loooong time. Is it right? Nope, but that's our glorious system for ya. Trump spent far less than Hillary did on advertising and threw far less mud.

Not many wanted another 4 years of Obama and Hillary. They've done enough and had their time. If they were going to do anything noteworthy, they'd have done it by now. Even the minorities voted Trump. What's that tell ya?

I don't know what's going to happen, no one does but he is different and different won out.
 
Michael Scally MD said:
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It has previously been reported that it is no secret Schneiderman is a Hillary Clinton supporter. Disclosures from 2015 show he donated $2,700 to Clinton’s campaign, the maximum amount allowed under federal law. He also serves on the Clinton campaign’s leadership council for the state of New York. As a report on the Clinton campaign recently explained, the leadership council was put together as a means of “amplifying the campaign’s national voice to New York families aiding the campaign with rapid response, organization building, grassroots organizing events, recruiting volunteer leaders, and identifying leaders for Get Out The Vote activities.”

Schneiderman seems to have taken this message to heart, and has even shown a willingness throughout the campaign to use his office to protect Clinton, while launching investigations against her political rivals. And the decision to open a highly publicized investigation into allegations against the Trump Foundation is simply the latest example. In fact, compared to how Schneiderman’s office handled similar, if not more troubling, reports about the Clinton Foundation, this provides the ultimate example of his willingness to engage in politically motivated, selective enforcement actions.

As was mentioned earlier, The Washington Post published a report last Thursday alleging its review of records found the Trump Foundation failed to file the proper forms to solicit donations in New York. Although the existence of the Notice of Violation letter was only reported on Monday, the date of the letter indicates Schneiderman’s office had decided to go forward with an enforcement action within about 24 hours of the report.

Meanwhile, Scripps News service recently published the findings of a months long investigation into tax records filed in New York state by the Clinton Foundation and its affiliated organization, Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI). New York law requires a charity to identify its donors and to disclose the amount of each donation it receives. Additionally, Schneiderman’s own office also publishes a very detailed set of instructions that explains tax filings must include the “name of each agency from which your organization received a government contribution (grant) and the grant amount.” However, the report found CHAI has failed to separately list out its contributors in its filings every year between 2010-2014. Furthermore, it has failed to list its foreign contributions as well. The result is a $225,000,000 gap between what CHAI has told the IRS it received and what it revealed to the state of New York.

When Scripps reached out to Schneiderman’s office to ask about the apparently deficiencies in the Clinton charity’s tax filings under New York state law, a spokesperson said the attorney general’s office sees nothing wrong with the Clinton charity disclosures. The spokesperson even seemed to make excuses for the Clinton charity, pointing to remarks they previously made in response to questioning from Politifact that essentially said other charities do it too, as if that makes it OK! Finally, in what can reasonably be interpreted as an effort to give the Clinton’s an out in all of this, the spokesperson added, “We intend to provide guidance clarifying our disclosure rules in the months ahead.”

When Schneiderman first announced his office was opening a probe into the Trump Foundation last month, Professor Stephen Gillers, an ethics professor with the NYU School of Law told LawNewz.com that the investigation should not have been opened until November 9. Prof. Gillers explained, “Schneiderman should have waited until November 9. Whatever may be his reasons for opening the investigation now, less than eight weeks before the election, to the public his motives will appear highly partisan.”

With the announcement on Monday, it is now more than clear that Schneiderman has decided to put partisan political interests ahead of anything else.
 
Michael Scally MD said:
Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed—in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical—and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self-satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.

If we want to know how to get the better of stupidity, we must seek to understand its nature. This much is certain, that it is in essence not an intellectual defect but a human one. There are human beings who are of remarkably agile intellect yet stupid, and others who are intellectually quite dull yet anything but stupid. We discover this to our surprise in particular situations. The impression one gains is not so much that stupidity is a congenital defect but that, under certain circumstances, people are made stupid or that they allow this to happen to them. We note further that people who have isolated themselves from others or who live in solitude manifest this defect less frequently than individuals or groups of people inclined or condemned to sociability. And so it would seem that stupidity is perhaps less a psychological than a sociological problem. It is a particular fonn of the impact of historical circumstances on human beings, a psychological concomitant of certain external conditions.

UPON CLOSER OBSERVATION, IT BECOMES APPARENT THAT EVERY STRONG UPSURGE OF POWER IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE, BE IT OF A POLITICAL OR A RELIGIOUS NATURE, INFECTS A LARGE PART OF HUMANKIND WITH STUPIDITY. IT WOULD EVEN SEEM THAT THIS IS VIRTUALLY A SOCIOLOGICAL-PSYCHOLOGICAL LAW. THE POWER OF THE ONE NEEDS THE STUPIDITY OF THE OTHER.

The process at work here is not that particular human capacities, for instance, the intellect, suddenly atrophy or fail. Instead, it seems that under the overwhelming impact of rising power, humans are deprived of their inner independence and, more or less consciously, give up establishing an autonomous position toward the emerging circumstances. The fact that the stupid person is often stubborn must not blind us to the fact that he is not independent.

In conversation with him, ONE VIRTUALLY FEELS THAT ONE IS DEALING NOT AT ALL WITH HIM AS A PERSON, BUT WITH SLOGANS, CATCHWORDS, AND THE LIKE THAT HAVE TAKEN POSSESSION OF HIM. HE IS UNDER A SPELL, BLINDED, MISUSED, AND ABUSED IN HIS VERY BEING. HAVING THUS BECOME A MINDLESS TOOL, THE STUPID PERSON WILL ALSO BE CAPABLE OF ANY EVIL AND AT THE SAME TIME INCAPABLE OF SEEING THAT IT IS EVIL. THIS IS WHERE THE DANGER OF DIABOLICAL MISUSE LURKS, FOR IT IS THIS THAT CAN ONCE AND FOR ALL DESTROY HUMAN BEINGS.

Yet at this very point it becomes quite clear that only an act of liberation, not instruction, can overcome stupidity. Here we must come to terms with the fact that in most cases a genuine internal liberation becomes possible only when external liberation has preceded it. Until then we must abandon all attempts to convince the stupid person. This state of affairs explains why in such circumstances our attempts to know what “the people” really think are in vain and why, under these circumstances, this question is so irrelevant for the person who is thinking and acting responsibly. The word of the Bible that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom declares that the internal liberation of human beings to live the responsible life before God is the only genuine way to overcome stupidity.

But these thoughts about stupidity also offer consolation in that they utterly forbid us to consider the majority of people to be stupid in every circumstance. It really will depend on whether those in power expect more from peoples’ stupidity than from their inner independence and wisdom.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers from Prison (Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2015), 9-11.
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Reminds me of what Forest Gump said.:D
 
"By 2017 the world economy has collapsed. Food, natural resources and oil are in short supply. A police state, divided into paramilitary zones, rules with an iron hand. Television is controlled by the state….All art, music and communications are censored. No dissent is tolerated and yet a small resistance movement has managed to survive underground.”

 
DedLift said:
Bought and paid for? You mean like Hillarys entire campaign? Do you know how much of her own $ she put up during the campaign? Zero. None. What you just said applies to every politician running for office ever. Oh, except for Trump who paid over $100 million of his own money. He backed himself and therefore owes no one "favors". Can't say that about HRC.

His support came from the people who've felt slighted by the same government supposedly working FOR them. He's already got the richest man in Japan investing 50 billion into our economy and providing 50,000 jobs.

The fact is, every candidate running for office has a campaign paid for by donors. That's how politics works @ronin17 . Only the rich can take office here. Been that way for a loooong time. Is it right? Nope, but that's our glorious system for ya. Trump spent far less than Hillary did on advertising and threw far less mud.

Not many wanted another 4 years of Obama and Hillary. They've done enough and had their time. If they were going to do anything noteworthy, they'd have done it by now. Even the minorities voted Trump. What's that tell ya?

I don't know what's going to happen, no one does but he is different and different won out.
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Oh at @DedLift , your admiration of Trump is so sadly misplaced.

That deal with the Japanese telecom buissness man had been in the works without Trumps influence long before Trump was nominated. Of course he would take credit for it.

What's unfortunate is the blind trust people like yourself give him without knowing the facts of these deals.

Did you also know Trumps daughter was leveraging a biz deal with a japanese bank which was shortly approved after the same meeting. Why do you think she was at the meeting since she is not allowed to participate in politics???

They are already using his position as president to further his familys buissness intrests.


You seem to be a good guy @DedLift .
You seriously need to wake up about Trump. He isnt the working class hero he has made himself out to be.

Its not hard to see.
 
Well there were only two choices out there. Hillary or Trump.
Business as usual, or a shot in the dark. Of course they could have voted for a third party candidate, but that never works.
So now we'll see....
 
kawilt said:
Well there were only two choices out there. Hillary or Trump.
Business as usual, or a shot in the dark. Of course they could have voted for a third party candidate, but that never works.
So now we'll see....
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Buissness as usual wasn't great but unemployment is the lowest its been in a looonng time, the economy is the best its been in a looong time, we are not wasting as many billions in iraq and afganistan, things are a hell of alot better than they were 10yrs ago.

Its hard for me to imagine how a man that ran for office out of personal gain is going to "fix"the economy for the middleclass.

Its hard for me to imagine how a man that's never served, knows more than the generals in charge of fighting our wars.

He has a history of ripping of investors, contractors, using bankruptcy as a tool to not pay his depts. His east coast casinos gave been colossal failures and money pits.

He has been caught using inferior products from china and mexico when the contracts paid him to use American made products in the buildings he built.

Go USA!!! He says Make America great but then buys products from other countries because they're cheaper.

it's very easy to make money once you already have money. show me a self-made businessman that's created an empire with nothing but his sweat and his intelligence and his hard work. that's the kind a guy we can trust to be a wise buissness man.

We are the middleclass. His policies and the people he's putting in charge to run his office are the people that have been slowly tearing the middleclass apart brick by brick for decades.

So no, out of the options that we had in my Opinion he's definitely the worst option.

He's a ConMan. Scammer. And not even a good one.
 
ronin17 said:
Oh at @DedLift , your admiration of Trump is so sadly misplaced.

That deal with the Japanese telecom buissness man had been in the works without Trumps influence long before Trump was nominated. Of course he would take credit for it.

What's unfortunate is the blind trust people like yourself give him without knowing the facts of these deals.

Did you also know Trumps daughter was leveraging a biz deal with a japanese bank which was shortly approved after the same meeting. Why do you think she was at the meeting since she is not allowed to participate in politics???

They are already using his position as president to further his familys buissness intrests.


You seem to be a good guy @DedLift .
You seriously need to wake up about Trump. He isnt the working class hero he has made himself out to be.

Its not hard to see.
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Thing is @ronin17 , I'm honestly not For Trump as much as against HRC and the DNC. This is coming from a guy who used to worship Bill Clinton as the guy who oversaw the largest economic expansion in US history. I used to think electing Hillary would be like reelecting Bill but that Bill is no more.

I think we're in a sad state of affairs when HRC and Trump are the best we can come up with. I keep thinking about descriptions of the anti christ and what it really means. Maybe it means someone who worships money and power (trump, basically the opposite of spirituality)will take power in this country. I'm no Trump supporter so much as trying to get everyone to understand the medias attempt to sway yours and mine opinion. Ever read the book 1984 by George Orwell? To me, it's all coming to pass before our very eyes.
I think a storm is coming and I think it's time we evolve as a species or die. Change our greedy capitalist ways or find real inner strength and power and make the world a better place. I don't back any politician. I learned my lesson with Obama. I hope we make it through the next 4 years without having to see our children go off to war. Peace brother
 
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