Yea I'd like to see the video too.
Also, there is no comparison to the circumstances that gave rise to the National Socialist Party in 1930s Germany.
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Yea I'd like to see the video too.
Also, there is no comparison to the circumstances that gave rise to the National Socialist Party in 1930s Germany.
The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-unbearable-stench-of-trumps-bs/2016/08/04/aa5d2798-5a6e-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html (The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S.)
A few days ago, I was asked on CNN to make sense of one more case in which Donald Trump had said something demonstrably false and then explained it away with a caustic tweet and an indignant interview. I replied that there was a pattern here and a term for a person who did this kind of thing: a “bullshit artist.” I got cheers and boos for the comment from partisans on both sides, but I was not using that label casually. Trump is many things, some of them dark and dangerous, but at his core, he is a B.S. artist.
Harry Frankfurt, an eminent moral philosopher and former professor at Princeton, wrote a brilliant essay in 1986 called “https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691122946/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thewaspos09-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0691122946&linkId=5097c732794a471b91ccefe1c0b4447b (On Bullshit).” (Frankfurt himself wrote about Trump in this vein, as have Jeet Heer and Eldar Sarajlic.) In the essay, Frankfurt distinguishes crucially between lies and B.S.: “Telling a lie is an act with a sharp focus. It is designed to insert a particular falsehood at a specific point. . . . In order to invent a lie at all, [the teller of a lie] must think he knows what is true.”
But someone engaging in B.S., Frankfurt says, “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all . . . except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says.” Frankfurt writes that the B.S.-er’s “focus is panoramic rather than particular” and that he has “more spacious opportunities for improvisation, color, and imaginative play. This is less a matter of craft than of art. Hence the familiar notion of the ‘bullshit artist.’ ”
This has been Trump’s mode all his life. He boasts — and boasts and boasts — about his business, his buildings, his books, his wives. Much of it is a concoction of hyperbole and falsehoods. And when he’s found out, he’s like that guy we have all met at a bar who makes wild claims but when confronted with the truth, quickly responds, “I knew that!”
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Harry Frankfurt concludes that liars and truth-tellers are both acutely aware of facts and truths. They are just choosing to play on opposite sides of the same game to serve their own ends. The B.S. artist, however, has lost all connection with reality. He pays no attention to the truth. “By virtue of this,” Frankfurt writes, “bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.”
We see the consequences. As the crazy talk continues, standard rules of fact, truth and reality have disappeared in this campaign. Donald Trump has piled such vast quantities of his trademark product into the political arena that the stench is now overwhelming and unbearable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-unbearable-stench-of-trumps-bs/2016/08/04/aa5d2798-5a6e-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html (The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S.)
A few days ago, I was asked on CNN to make sense of one more case in which Donald Trump had said something demonstrably false and then explained it away with a caustic tweet and an indignant interview. I replied that there was a pattern here and a term for a person who did this kind of thing: a “bullshit artist.” I got cheers and boos for the comment from partisans on both sides, but I was not using that label casually. Trump is many things, some of them dark and dangerous, but at his core, he is a B.S. artist.
Harry Frankfurt, an eminent moral philosopher and former professor at Princeton, wrote a brilliant essay in 1986 called “https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691122946/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thewaspos09-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0691122946&linkId=5097c732794a471b91ccefe1c0b4447b (On Bullshit).” (Frankfurt himself wrote about Trump in this vein, as have Jeet Heer and Eldar Sarajlic.) In the essay, Frankfurt distinguishes crucially between lies and B.S.: “Telling a lie is an act with a sharp focus. It is designed to insert a particular falsehood at a specific point. . . . In order to invent a lie at all, [the teller of a lie] must think he knows what is true.”
But someone engaging in B.S., Frankfurt says, “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all . . . except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says.” Frankfurt writes that the B.S.-er’s “focus is panoramic rather than particular” and that he has “more spacious opportunities for improvisation, color, and imaginative play. This is less a matter of craft than of art. Hence the familiar notion of the ‘bullshit artist.’ ”
This has been Trump’s mode all his life. He boasts — and boasts and boasts — about his business, his buildings, his books, his wives. Much of it is a concoction of hyperbole and falsehoods. And when he’s found out, he’s like that guy we have all met at a bar who makes wild claims but when confronted with the truth, quickly responds, “I knew that!”
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Harry Frankfurt concludes that liars and truth-tellers are both acutely aware of facts and truths. They are just choosing to play on opposite sides of the same game to serve their own ends. The B.S. artist, however, has lost all connection with reality. He pays no attention to the truth. “By virtue of this,” Frankfurt writes, “bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.”
We see the consequences. As the crazy talk continues, standard rules of fact, truth and reality have disappeared in this campaign. Donald Trump has piled such vast quantities of his trademark product into the political arena that the stench is now overwhelming and unbearable.
"Harry Frankfurt concludes that liars and truth-tellers are both acutely aware of facts and truths. They are just choosing to play on opposite sides of the same game to serve their own ends."
"But someone engaging in B.S., Frankfurt says, “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all . . . except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says."
"Harry Frankfurt concludes that liars and truth-tellers are both acutely aware of facts and truths. They are just choosing to play on opposite sides of the same game to serve their own ends."
This article could and does apply to "almost" every "politician". I believe that congress is about as far as your going to get if you buck the bull shit.
"But someone engaging in B.S., Frankfurt says, “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all . . . except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says."
"Harry Frankfurt concludes that liars and truth-tellers are both acutely aware of facts and truths. They are just choosing to play on opposite sides of the same game to serve their own ends."
This article could and does apply to "almost" every "politician". I believe that congress is about as far as your going to get if you buck the bull shit.
Trump May Start Dragging GOP Senate Candidates Down With Him
Trump May Start Dragging GOP Senate Candidates Down With Him
Trump May Start Dragging GOP Senate Candidates Down With Him
Harvard Republican Club Will Not Support Party Nominee Donald Trump
Harvard Republican Club Will Not Support Party Nominee Donald Trump | News | The Harvard Crimson
The Harvard Republican Club announced it would not support Republican presidential nominee Donald J. Trump, and called for Republican leaders to withdraw their support of the candidate they called a “threat to the survival of the Republic” in a press release Thursday.
In the scathing statement, the largest conservative group at Harvard cited “both policy and temperamental concerns” about Trump and condemned his divisive campaign rhetoric they say “is poisoning our country and our children.”
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Harvard Republican Club Will Not Support Party Nominee Donald Trump | News | The Harvard Crimson
The Harvard Republican Club announced it would not support Republican presidential nominee Donald J. Trump, and called for Republican leaders to withdraw their support of the candidate they called a “threat to the survival of the Republic” in a press release Thursday.
In the scathing statement, the largest conservative group at Harvard cited “both policy and temperamental concerns” about Trump and condemned his divisive campaign rhetoric they say “is poisoning our country and our children.”
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CdnGuy
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Not Ivy league fan sir? Being a engineer and all
Don't believe everything you read or hear!....research..
Last time I heard the faculty and administration were overwhelmingly democratic.
Harvard Faculty Donate to Democrats by Wide Margin
....research..Last time I heard the faculty and administration were overwhelmingly democratic.
Harvard Faculty Donate to Democrats by Wide Margin
Not Ivy league fan sir? Being a engineer and all
For some, it appears hard to get past the fact it is the "Republican" club. And, the reasons they state for no support. In prior elections, they have supported the "Republican" candidate. Trump et al. will not take losing lightly.
CdnGuy
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OK so what is Harvard predominantly then Republican or Democrats?
CdnGuy
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Fair enough wasn't trying to start an argument was just asking a honest question.
CdnGuy
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http://m.mpnnow.com/news/20160804/gop-state-senate-candidates-weigh-in-on-donald-trump (GOP state Senate candidates weigh in on Donald Trump)
The Harvard Republican Club is a STUDENT organization. Harvard Republican Club
African American are apparently vastly more intelligent than the average American.
CdnGuy
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Not to mention the African American people see what a loudmouth bigot he is....
The Daily Trail: Donald Trump's love affair with polls is definitely over
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/paloma/the-daily-trail/2016/08/04/the-daily-trail-donald-trump-s-love-affair-with-polls-is-definitely-over/57a3cf3dcd249a7e29d0cf79/ (The Daily Trail: Donald Trump's love affair with polls is definitely over)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/paloma/the-daily-trail/2016/08/04/the-daily-trail-donald-trump-s-love-affair-with-polls-is-definitely-over/57a3cf3dcd249a7e29d0cf79/ (The Daily Trail: Donald Trump's love affair with polls is definitely over)
